Boston Bruins Game Recap: From Detroit Disaster to a Statement Week at Home | Ep 120

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0:51 Speaker 3: Welcome in everyone to another episode of Bruin's Tape to Tape.

0:55 Speaker 3: I'm your host today, Caroline with a K and it

0:59 Speaker 3: is just number eighth that we're recording. And my goodness,

1:03 Speaker 3: are we in the thick of everything hockey all the time?

1:07 Speaker 3: People are getting injured left and right. It is the

1:10 Speaker 3: chaos of a condensed season ahead of the Olympics. So

1:13 Speaker 3: I'm welcoming in my fantastic co host Maria from Watertown

1:17 Speaker 3: to talk about it.

1:17 Speaker 1: How's it go with Maria? It's going, it's going. Yeah,

1:21 Speaker 1: You're right, it is. It is utter madness and chaos

1:24 Speaker 1: at this time of the year.

1:26 Speaker 2: It's all fun stuff, you know.

1:28 Speaker 1: We everyone has their their holidays in whichever manner that

1:32 Speaker 1: they celebrate them, but it still lends itself to chaos.

1:38 Speaker 2: And then trying to.

1:39 Speaker 1: Squeeze in the viewing of hockey games in addition to

1:43 Speaker 1: all the festivities it is.

1:44 Speaker 3: It's it's a tough time for everybody, no matter what,

1:48 Speaker 3: no matter what you're doing, whether it's the holiday things

1:51 Speaker 3: or the hockey things or what have you. So we're

1:54 Speaker 3: trying our best to stay on top of our snapshots.

1:58 Speaker 3: But if we don't have out there, you'll know why

2:01 Speaker 3: because it is December and there's just a lot of

2:04 Speaker 3: hockey games that we have to try and keep up with.

2:07 Speaker 2: So and not.

2:08 Speaker 1: Only that, you know, we have families, we have lives.

2:11 Speaker 1: We're not making any excuses, but this is the time

2:15 Speaker 1: of the year where some things take a little bit

2:18 Speaker 1: of priority over hockey. What jocking that's never happened before

2:23 Speaker 1: in my life. Plasma's coming from.

2:25 Speaker 2: Me, I know, I know. Well, let's dive in. We'll

2:28 Speaker 2: set the table.

2:29 Speaker 3: There's just so much happening, Like I said, so many injuries,

2:34 Speaker 3: some crazy news out there, not just for the Boston

2:37 Speaker 3: Bruins pretty much really now, it sounds terrible to say

2:42 Speaker 3: scraping the bottom of the barrel, because I don't think

2:44 Speaker 3: that these guys are terrible, but they're literally reaching for

2:47 Speaker 3: their final backup players at this point. And we've also

2:54 Speaker 3: got the Olympic decisions are going to be coming out

2:56 Speaker 3: very soon, so lots to talk about, but Bruins will

3:00 Speaker 3: some updates on the most I don't know, intriguing significant

3:06 Speaker 3: injuries because they are to our two main leaders. David Pasternak,

3:11 Speaker 3: we've just seen today again it's Monday, middle of the

3:15 Speaker 3: day that Pasta was at practice, but he is in

3:19 Speaker 3: a red no contact jersey. Yeah, he was skating before

3:25 Speaker 3: on his own, yes, so he is in a red

3:28 Speaker 3: no contact which is interesting. That was a little bit

3:32 Speaker 3: of a surprise to me. And then Charlie McAvoy, we

3:35 Speaker 3: know he's been skating and he was at practice on

3:40 Speaker 3: Friday in a no contact jersey, but today Monday.

3:45 Speaker 2: Regular jersey. Yeah yeah, regular jersey.

3:48 Speaker 3: That's kind of pretty big news, especially since we all

3:51 Speaker 3: learned on Friday when he went to practice for the

3:54 Speaker 3: first time and met with media that he had lost

3:58 Speaker 3: twenty pounds in that first week and a half thanks

4:00 Speaker 3: to the all liquid diet.

4:02 Speaker 1: Yeah, eating a steak and drinking it doesn't carry the

4:05 Speaker 1: same benefits, right.

4:07 Speaker 2: Yeah, I could have told you that it doesn't really work.

4:11 Speaker 1: It stands to reason, right, it just stands to reason, Yes,

4:14 Speaker 1: he would have lost weight, so you know, and it's

4:17 Speaker 1: a losing of weight I would realize goes along with stamina, yes, strength,

4:22 Speaker 1: all of that that he needs to kind of rebuild.

4:26 Speaker 3: Right well, and keep in mind, you know, it's twenty

4:28 Speaker 3: pounds and in his case, that's twenty pounds of muscle effectively,

4:32 Speaker 3: so he also has to bring that back up. He

4:36 Speaker 3: can't have solid food for six weeks post surgeries, presumably,

4:41 Speaker 3: even if he were to rejoin the Bruins this week.

4:45 Speaker 3: I mean, that guy is still on a liquid diet,

4:48 Speaker 3: so that's.

4:49 Speaker 2: Going to be interesting to see.

4:51 Speaker 3: Can he can he even actually join the team yet,

4:55 Speaker 3: I'm assuming no, he's I think he he's really lucky

5:00 Speaker 3: he didn't have to have his jaw wired shut, because

5:03 Speaker 3: I can't possibly imagine having to play NHL level hockey

5:07 Speaker 3: and have your jaw shut.

5:09 Speaker 2: I would venture to guess that if you're the Growings,

5:12 Speaker 2: you might want to hold off on getting him back

5:15 Speaker 2: in knee a line up until they come back lay

5:18 Speaker 2: at home before the Christmas break.

5:20 Speaker 3: The other big kind of Ruins news is, as I mentioned,

5:24 Speaker 3: it's December. Olympic rosters are now being decided by the

5:29 Speaker 3: various nations, and not surprisingly, Morgan Gegee's name has been

5:34 Speaker 3: coming up in Olympic roster talk. It'd be very interesting

5:38 Speaker 3: to see if we do see him make his way

5:41 Speaker 3: to Milan in about two months. He's just the most

5:45 Speaker 3: on fire player the man. Every time he touches that puck,

5:48 Speaker 3: it's finding the back of the net, it's going exactly

5:51 Speaker 3: where he wants it to go. I mean, I hate

5:54 Speaker 3: to say it because it almost sounds disrespectful, but honestly, like,

5:57 Speaker 3: I still can't wrap my head around it that he

5:59 Speaker 3: has just gone from you know, zero to one hundred

6:04 Speaker 3: in seemingly no time at all. Like, no, it's it's

6:09 Speaker 3: a cliche and it's it sounds insulting to him, but

6:12 Speaker 3: I can't help it.

6:14 Speaker 1: No, And I think it's even more impressive for from

6:17 Speaker 1: my standpoint that he's still still popping in goals, he's

6:22 Speaker 1: still assisting on goals with David Pasternak out of the lineup. Yeah,

6:25 Speaker 1: so you know, he he is taking his role and

6:30 Speaker 1: running with it, which is it's it's a beautiful thing

6:34 Speaker 1: to see. He's certainly making a case for himself to

6:37 Speaker 1: be talked about as you know some type of an

6:40 Speaker 1: alternate on Team Canada. Whether that comes to fruition or not,

6:44 Speaker 1: we'll see, right And and he's also being very very

6:48 Speaker 1: humble about what he is doing thus far this season

6:52 Speaker 1: for the Boston Bruins.

6:54 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I agree.

6:55 Speaker 3: It's We're very lucky because I think we've talked in

6:57 Speaker 3: the past that, oh man, the Bruins just need someone

7:00 Speaker 3: who can play with Pasta. They need someone who can

7:02 Speaker 3: play with Pasta because Pasta is this elite level player

7:06 Speaker 3: that Boston hasn't really had another player of his caliber,

7:12 Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, here he is, out of

7:15 Speaker 3: seemingly nowhere. Yeah, I think we finally do have that

7:18 Speaker 3: person who can play with David Pasternak and actually can

7:22 Speaker 3: do pretty darn well without him too.

7:26 Speaker 1: And I think we have to give, as much as

7:28 Speaker 1: I hate to even say this, we have to give

7:30 Speaker 1: that Queenie a little bit of credit for seeing a

7:34 Speaker 1: bit of a diamond in the rough. And contract that

7:38 Speaker 1: Morgan Geeky has is just so team friendly, so I

7:42 Speaker 1: think it was a good fit for both sides.

7:45 Speaker 2: I agree.

7:46 Speaker 3: I agree for our listeners who tuned in last week,

7:50 Speaker 3: we had run out of time to get one of

7:52 Speaker 3: Maria's classic hot takes about the current Bruins leadership situation,

7:57 Speaker 3: we very briefly alluded to there's not been any further conversation.

8:03 Speaker 3: I mean, granted, I certainly am not expecting any further

8:06 Speaker 3: conversation until the postseason, but this leadership vacuum and the

8:11 Speaker 3: fact that we are continuing on this season without a captain,

8:15 Speaker 3: and Maria, you've been giving this a little bit of thought.

8:18 Speaker 2: Take us on the journey of your hot take.

8:21 Speaker 1: We heard initially Dan Swaeney and even Marco Sturm alluding

8:26 Speaker 1: to the fact that they wanted someone to emerge as

8:29 Speaker 1: the leader basically earn that. See now, how many games

8:33 Speaker 1: and we're thirty close to thirty games in this year.

8:37 Speaker 1: We've had Charlie McAvoy now out of the lineup unfortunately

8:41 Speaker 1: for an extended period of time. You know, when his

8:44 Speaker 1: play has been it's been better, it's been better. Pasta

8:48 Speaker 1: hasn't been lighting things up crazily either, and he's had

8:51 Speaker 1: some time out of the lineup, no, for the first

8:53 Speaker 1: time in his career. Yeah, and I'm looking at a

8:58 Speaker 1: particular player to me who showed signs of an emergence

9:02 Speaker 1: at the end of last season, who has carried that

9:05 Speaker 1: emergence forward with not only his play on the ice

9:09 Speaker 1: and making changes to the way plays, but the fact

9:13 Speaker 1: that he has said and done I know who you're

9:17 Speaker 1: going to say all the right things as far as

9:19 Speaker 1: I'm concerned throughout the course of the season and continues

9:23 Speaker 1: to be a leader.

9:24 Speaker 2: And I'm talking about Nikita Zadora.

9:27 Speaker 1: And I don't understand why if that if it was me,

9:32 Speaker 1: And I'm looking at this in you know, the way

9:34 Speaker 1: it was presented to us by the Boston Bruins organization. Yeah,

9:38 Speaker 1: and you're saying you're waiting for someone to stand out

9:41 Speaker 1: and take that leadership role on I don't give him

9:44 Speaker 1: the sea.

9:45 Speaker 2: Give him the sea.

9:47 Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm one hundred percent there with

9:49 Speaker 3: giving him the sea, because i do want to keep

9:51 Speaker 3: going and seeing because I'm nervous just because of the

9:57 Speaker 3: whole year that we saw last year, just because of that,

10:00 Speaker 3: and I'm a little bit more conservative on that end.

10:02 Speaker 3: But I agree in terms of the leadership. The fact

10:06 Speaker 3: that at the start of the season, Bruins management, I

10:10 Speaker 3: don't know who really made the decision obviously, but that

10:12 Speaker 3: they decided they were not even going to introduce any

10:18 Speaker 3: degree of rotation in any sort of way.

10:22 Speaker 2: We've seen in the.

10:23 Speaker 3: Past that one of the alternates was rotated in and out.

10:28 Speaker 3: I think is a fantastic motivator and reward recognition for

10:34 Speaker 3: a guy who maybe is really contributing in that time.

10:39 Speaker 3: So I've always been a fan of that idea. I

10:41 Speaker 3: don't have a problem with there being, you know, a

10:43 Speaker 3: captain and then an alternate who's just like that steady

10:46 Speaker 3: right hand man, as has been the model for a

10:49 Speaker 3: number of seasons in Boston. I'm also a little bit

10:53 Speaker 3: surprised that they opted again for here's our set three

10:58 Speaker 3: when we've seen other other teams and other iterations of

11:02 Speaker 3: the Bruins when they have been without a captain handing

11:06 Speaker 3: out more than three a's and then rotating some of

11:12 Speaker 3: them in and out, because obviously you can only have

11:14 Speaker 3: a max of three in a game. But again, I

11:18 Speaker 3: will point to the New York Rangers from a number

11:21 Speaker 3: of years back, where they had five alternates. Name I

11:25 Speaker 3: believe it was the late sixties early seventies Boston Bruins

11:29 Speaker 3: that had multiples right where there was obviously one chief

11:33 Speaker 3: he had it all the time, but you know, rotating

11:36 Speaker 3: in and out. So I think it's weird. I kind

11:39 Speaker 3: of question the reasoning and logic behind the way that

11:42 Speaker 3: they have put it together. Because to your point, Maria,

11:45 Speaker 3: if you want to say, we're gonna let nature take

11:48 Speaker 3: its course, which is plausible, right, and we're gonna see

11:52 Speaker 3: who rises to the occasion, either you were just I

11:59 Speaker 3: don't know, feeding us some bs, which is also very likely, right,

12:05 Speaker 3: or like, how could you possibly expect that to happen

12:10 Speaker 3: if then, tacitly you've already said it's these three guys,

12:15 Speaker 3: it's going to be one of these three guys. Like

12:18 Speaker 3: I think, to Zadorov's credit, he is I think a

12:22 Speaker 3: genuine leader, and I don't think.

12:24 Speaker 2: He cares if you have a letter or not.

12:29 Speaker 3: He's going to come in and be the leader that

12:32 Speaker 3: he is, showing us that he can be right. He's

12:34 Speaker 3: not going to necessarily, like automatically.

12:37 Speaker 2: Defer to the letter.

12:39 Speaker 3: I fully expected him to if they were going to

12:42 Speaker 3: do some degree of rotation, that he was going to

12:44 Speaker 3: be one of the guys who had it. And it's

12:47 Speaker 3: shocking to me that he only just recently got that recognition,

12:52 Speaker 3: like the fact that they went Hampus Linnholm Elias Linnholm

12:57 Speaker 3: and then him Yeah.

12:58 Speaker 1: And he's likely not it. And the team itself seems

13:03 Speaker 1: to be unconcerned about who has a sea or who

13:06 Speaker 1: doesn't have the sea. I'm just making the case based

13:10 Speaker 1: on what this organization said that they were looking for

13:15 Speaker 1: in terms of, you know, the next captain of the

13:19 Speaker 1: Boston Ruins. Like this guy is showing me that he

13:24 Speaker 1: has the capability of doing that.

13:28 Speaker 2: I agree the at its core.

13:31 Speaker 3: While you and I may disagree with the timing with

13:34 Speaker 3: which to hand out the sea, I will say right now,

13:38 Speaker 3: in my eyes, in what I see both on the

13:41 Speaker 3: ice and off the ice.

13:43 Speaker 2: He's the leader. He's the guy right now.

13:47 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just kind of hit me and I thought,

13:49 Speaker 1: could we potentially go through the whole season with that one?

13:51 Speaker 2: It looks likely that we might. Right, we made very

13:54 Speaker 2: well go through.

13:55 Speaker 3: I expect that for sure. Definitely this food for thought,

13:59 Speaker 3: very interesting food for thought. We want to hear from

14:02 Speaker 3: our listeners.

14:04 Speaker 2: Is he the guy? I don't know. We'll find out.

14:06 Speaker 3: I guess we'll find out as the season goes on.

14:10 Speaker 3: Let's just take a super quick tour around the rink again.

14:13 Speaker 3: These injuries, My god, the number of players who are

14:17 Speaker 3: getting It feels like these ACL injuries, Oh my god,

14:21 Speaker 3: left and right. Because you've got Kyle Paul Mary. We

14:24 Speaker 3: talked about him and his ridiculous play that he assisted

14:28 Speaker 3: on last week, me whatever situation happening with Connor Hellibuck.

14:34 Speaker 1: And now poor Tyler Sagan. This kid can't catch a

14:38 Speaker 1: freaking break. I went down and looked at his injury history.

14:44 Speaker 1: Not easy injury. No, he's had achilles hip surgeries, now

14:50 Speaker 1: a torn ACL. I mean it just like, at what

14:54 Speaker 1: point do you sit down and evaluate and say, what

14:57 Speaker 1: am I doing to my body here? I know that

15:00 Speaker 1: these hockey players are the ultimate competitors and don't want

15:05 Speaker 1: their bodies to ever quit on them.

15:07 Speaker 2: But my god, and he's he's only thirty three.

15:11 Speaker 3: I thought he was maybe closer to thirty five because

15:15 Speaker 3: in my mind, you know, when I think back to

15:17 Speaker 3: the twenty eleven Bruins, I think of him and I

15:20 Speaker 3: think of Marshy as like this pair, but not really

15:24 Speaker 3: actually realizing how much older Marshand is than Sagan.

15:29 Speaker 2: Tyler Sagan wasn't even drinking age.

15:31 Speaker 3: I know, yeah, it's at first when I saw that,

15:36 Speaker 3: I was like, oh man, that's going to be the

15:38 Speaker 3: end of his career time.

15:39 Speaker 2: I mean, he's thirty three.

15:41 Speaker 3: By no means, especially in this day and age, is

15:43 Speaker 3: that particularly old.

15:45 Speaker 2: It's older.

15:47 Speaker 3: But I think you're seeing a lot of these long

15:49 Speaker 3: term guys making it to thirty five. So we will

15:53 Speaker 3: see if he does, because that's that's a tough one.

15:56 Speaker 2: That's basically that's it for the season for him. Yeah,

15:59 Speaker 2: it's it sounds like it's it. Is it for the

16:01 Speaker 2: season for him. Yeah.

16:02 Speaker 3: And the other big piece of news that's kind of

16:06 Speaker 3: around the rink.

16:07 Speaker 2: Is the speaking of rinks.

16:10 Speaker 1: Yeah, literally is the Joe It's laughable at support.

16:16 Speaker 2: That is the Olympic ice rink in Italy.

16:21 Speaker 3: It's shocking to me because a Italy, you know, Milan,

16:26 Speaker 3: they've known that they've had the Olympics since twenty sixteen.

16:30 Speaker 3: Italy last had the Winter Olympics in two thousand and six.

16:34 Speaker 3: So the fact that they are effectively still constructing an

16:39 Speaker 3: arena early December of twenty twenty five is first of

16:44 Speaker 3: all shocking, Like what.

16:46 Speaker 2: Is going on?

16:47 Speaker 3: I mean, yes, there's always corruption and bated pricing and

16:52 Speaker 3: stuff when it comes to the Olympics, because like whatever,

16:55 Speaker 3: that's always a thing.

16:56 Speaker 1: No, the IOC is farious organization as far as I'm concerned.

17:02 Speaker 2: So the biggest issue is the fact.

17:05 Speaker 3: That if you haven't heard the news somehow this rink size,

17:10 Speaker 3: So an NHL rink is two hundred feet in length

17:15 Speaker 3: and ninety feet in wit. An Olympic or international ice

17:20 Speaker 3: surface is slightly wider and I think a slightly shorter.

17:24 Speaker 3: It's a little bit ultimately, it's a little bit bigger

17:26 Speaker 3: square footage wise, this is now going to be smaller

17:32 Speaker 3: than the specs or an NHL rink with And you

17:36 Speaker 3: may be thinking, all right, well, what's what's three to

17:39 Speaker 3: six feet? Honestly, what difference does it make? The difference

17:42 Speaker 3: is at this particular speed of play, these players have

17:47 Speaker 3: learned how to play almost with instinct, at a very

17:52 Speaker 3: very high speed on a very particular size of rink.

17:57 Speaker 3: It can pose a significant scene set issue when you

18:02 Speaker 3: take away two four six eight of feet in length,

18:06 Speaker 3: and this is not an ice surface that they have

18:09 Speaker 3: spent much time on. So that's kind of the biggest

18:12 Speaker 3: concern and part of me and Marie I want to

18:15 Speaker 3: get your take on this. The NHL primarily, you know,

18:18 Speaker 3: Gary Bettman has basically come out and he's said there's

18:21 Speaker 3: no backup plan. This is all on the on the

18:24 Speaker 3: IOC to get sorted out. Now, my take is, my

18:28 Speaker 3: initial thought is why the heck is the NHL being

18:32 Speaker 3: so passive aggressive about all of this? Because you would

18:37 Speaker 3: imagine after the massive, massive success of the fore Nations

18:42 Speaker 3: and the NHL is always looking to continue to capitalize

18:47 Speaker 3: on opportunities that really get the NHL's name out there

18:51 Speaker 3: for him to be passive aggressive about all of this.

18:54 Speaker 3: The only thing I can think of is that truly,

18:58 Speaker 3: deep down they don't want the players to go, which

19:02 Speaker 3: I think is true. I think that Betman he always

19:06 Speaker 3: is working for the owners. However, money is everything, Right,

19:11 Speaker 3: if there's an opportunity for the NHL to make money,

19:16 Speaker 3: they will pursue it, right. That's capitalism and the amount

19:20 Speaker 3: of money that they could make, if not directly from

19:24 Speaker 3: the Olympics long term off of the Olympics. Right, the

19:29 Speaker 3: new fans, the excitement around it. People are going to

19:31 Speaker 3: be tuning in to see maybe who these players are

19:35 Speaker 3: before the games, and then they'll follow after the games

19:37 Speaker 3: because they just saw and fell in love with XYZ

19:40 Speaker 3: player from this team, like from Team Canada or whoever. Right, So,

19:45 Speaker 3: I'm surprised that even if they're even if he's being

19:48 Speaker 3: passive aggressive, because they really secretly not secretly, don't want

19:52 Speaker 3: the players, like but the money.

19:54 Speaker 2: How could you sing no to the money.

19:55 Speaker 3: I want to hear your take on your understanding of

19:59 Speaker 3: the situation, suation and why the heck is the NHL

20:02 Speaker 3: being so uninvolved.

20:05 Speaker 1: I agree with you, I really don't think that they

20:09 Speaker 1: want the players going be lave itself wants now.

20:12 Speaker 2: Is it a good opportunity to continue.

20:16 Speaker 1: Growing your game, Yes, but the league isn't going to

20:20 Speaker 1: be directly profiting from the Olympics. And I think also

20:26 Speaker 1: the statements made by Bill Daily, I don't want to

20:30 Speaker 1: say that they're disingenuous, but to some degree there might

20:34 Speaker 1: be a little bit of disingenuousness in the statement in

20:39 Speaker 1: saying that, hey, we're supporting our players, but if you

20:42 Speaker 1: don't get this rink built, we're not sending our guys

20:45 Speaker 1: there right to benefit you. Some of that might be

20:50 Speaker 1: pressure trying to put some pressure on the IOC to

20:54 Speaker 1: get this rink, Like, let's get going here, people. You've

20:57 Speaker 1: had so much time to get this rink built, so

21:01 Speaker 1: much time to get this rink built, that there's really

21:04 Speaker 1: no plausible rationale why we're having this conversation right now.

21:09 Speaker 1: What's what's frightening from the player standpoint, And I read

21:14 Speaker 1: this earlier this weekend, comments that Elliott Friedman may is

21:19 Speaker 1: that the players themselves are less concerned about the size

21:25 Speaker 1: of the rink but very concerned about the ice condition

21:29 Speaker 1: because there will be a lot of activity on this

21:33 Speaker 1: one rink and there won't be a lot of time

21:37 Speaker 1: in between to bring the ice surface up to standards

21:43 Speaker 1: that the players have been accustomed to, and that's where

21:47 Speaker 1: it becomes a safety concern for the players. And the

21:51 Speaker 1: fact that the NHL and the league isn't talking about

21:56 Speaker 1: an alternative plan or trying to figure out an altern

22:00 Speaker 1: the plan to keep the players, say, is another problem me. Honestly,

22:06 Speaker 1: I think that the league could give two ships if

22:09 Speaker 1: the players went, oh yeah, well, they've already canceled one

22:13 Speaker 1: one one test event in the early.

22:16 Speaker 3: Par At some point, Gary Bettman and the league, they

22:20 Speaker 3: and you know and Bill Daily, they're gonna have to

22:23 Speaker 3: realize that there's a certain point of no return where

22:27 Speaker 3: if Betman and the league pull the players, the players

22:32 Speaker 3: Association and the players themselves are going to be very

22:36 Speaker 3: upset and you can't you know, like what what that

22:42 Speaker 3: point of no return is date wise, I don't know,

22:45 Speaker 3: but probably not too much longer after final rosters are announced,

22:51 Speaker 3: like they no matter what, they they can't if they can,

22:56 Speaker 3: but they can't, like if they know what's good for

22:59 Speaker 3: them and the relationship with the players and everything, every

23:02 Speaker 3: all that goodwill that they've been building and they got

23:04 Speaker 3: back after all of this stuff with COVID, like they

23:07 Speaker 3: cannot just let it fail. That they are going to

23:11 Speaker 3: potentially have to step in and help make it right

23:15 Speaker 3: because you can't tell them a week, two weeks, four

23:19 Speaker 3: weeks before going that you're now not going.

23:23 Speaker 2: Can't do that for people.

23:25 Speaker 3: Then the NHL needs to do whatever it is that

23:29 Speaker 3: they can do to ensure the success of the Olympics,

23:34 Speaker 3: because the NHL has the world's best of everything when

23:38 Speaker 3: it comes to the game of hockey, right, all the resources,

23:42 Speaker 3: all the brains, all the ability to coordinate and put

23:45 Speaker 3: on events and things like that, so they have what

23:49 Speaker 3: is needed to execute.

23:51 Speaker 2: A an Olympic program.

23:53 Speaker 3: So you're going to get to the point where you

23:55 Speaker 3: have to know it is too late to tell the

23:57 Speaker 3: players you're not going, So then you damn well better

24:00 Speaker 3: do everything you possibly can to ensure the safety and

24:06 Speaker 3: the well being of your players when they go there.

24:08 Speaker 3: And if that means figuring out a solution for the

24:11 Speaker 3: incompetent IOC, then they got to do that.

24:15 Speaker 1: It wouldn't bode well for the relationship between the NHLPA

24:20 Speaker 1: and the league.

24:20 Speaker 2: I'll give you that. However, the league.

24:23 Speaker 1: Has the ability to pull the plot because they need

24:27 Speaker 1: to protect their investments. Can you imagine can you imagine

24:30 Speaker 1: we're already seeing we just talked about injuries to keep

24:34 Speaker 1: players on teams because of and I think a lot

24:38 Speaker 1: of it is because of this compressed schedule to accommodate

24:42 Speaker 1: the Olympic break, right, Can you imagine you send all

24:47 Speaker 1: of these superstars, because let's face it, that's who, in

24:51 Speaker 1: essence is going to the Olympics, NHL superstars across the

24:56 Speaker 1: league from various countries. And now if you've got an

25:00 Speaker 1: ice surface that is not up to standards, not being

25:05 Speaker 1: maintained properly, and then you see superstars going down and

25:10 Speaker 1: they come back injured.

25:11 Speaker 3: To the area, and if you think that Walsh is

25:13 Speaker 3: gonna let it go right right right, because like if

25:17 Speaker 3: they don't either they pull the players, who now they

25:22 Speaker 3: all knew going into this season that the schedule would

25:28 Speaker 3: be compressed. It is harder on them mentally, physically, emotionally,

25:32 Speaker 3: and then to have that taken away from them, that's

25:36 Speaker 3: gonna piss them off, right because they've already said, all right,

25:39 Speaker 3: we'll do this this way for that, we're giving, we're

25:42 Speaker 3: sacrificing ourselves for that. So the expectation is you're gonna

25:49 Speaker 3: sacrifice and let us have this. If they are then

25:54 Speaker 3: finding themselves in a situation where they sacrificed on their

25:57 Speaker 3: side and the NHL doesn't reciprocate in some way, I

26:01 Speaker 3: think regardless, you're gonna see issues between the NHL and

26:06 Speaker 3: the NHLPA. So the NHL, like Gary Bettman and the

26:10 Speaker 3: league and the owners like if they want to play

26:14 Speaker 3: at this pissing context with the IOC find but at

26:19 Speaker 3: some point, right if they need to step in, they

26:23 Speaker 3: damn well better because it's not just the players who

26:26 Speaker 3: are going to be disappointed. All the fans are going

26:28 Speaker 3: to be disappointed. Like that, enough of these games stop

26:32 Speaker 3: being children.

26:33 Speaker 1: I don't know who's playing games with who. It sounds

26:36 Speaker 1: like maybe there's a little bit of game and somebody is.

26:39 Speaker 1: But something concern is the fact that and maybe maybe

26:44 Speaker 1: the league is working on a plan B and you

26:47 Speaker 1: know it hasn't been the tea hasn't been spilled on

26:50 Speaker 1: that yet, but the fact that there's been no information

26:54 Speaker 1: forthcoming about what is the alternative if in.

26:59 Speaker 2: Fact the rink right isn't ready because you know here

27:02 Speaker 2: it is December eight.

27:03 Speaker 3: Well, and I'm not surprised that again the NHL is

27:07 Speaker 3: saying we don't have a plan. I mean that could

27:09 Speaker 3: be complete bs, but they don't want right right right

27:13 Speaker 3: right the ioce to no. And again here we are

27:15 Speaker 3: with the games right. It's ridiculous, but regardless, that's the

27:22 Speaker 3: international around the rink. T So let's super quick do

27:29 Speaker 3: a rundown of the different games that we saw in

27:33 Speaker 3: the past week. We saw Detroit. They were in Detroit.

27:38 Speaker 3: It was a pretty pathetic, as you described.

27:42 Speaker 2: In a recent snapshot, lazy, listless and uninspired. Yep.

27:47 Speaker 3: I would like to describe it as the Bruins have

27:51 Speaker 3: kind of been floating up and down, and that was

27:54 Speaker 3: them kind of going down and touching a toe on

27:57 Speaker 3: that rock bottom that they've been on before and then realizing,

28:01 Speaker 3: oh shoot, You're right, we can't be doing that and

28:03 Speaker 3: then turning around and as you predicted, kind of coming

28:06 Speaker 3: back when they return home to the Blues and the

28:10 Speaker 3: Devil's overall take on that Detroit game, they were zero

28:15 Speaker 3: for two on the power play.

28:16 Speaker 2: Swayman was awful. It was not good.

28:18 Speaker 1: No, no, no, And as I said in the snapshot,

28:21 Speaker 1: it didn't it didn't fall all at his feet. But

28:25 Speaker 1: here's what I'm going to say, the Boston Bruins, the

28:29 Speaker 1: way this roster is constructed currently, if they don't play

28:34 Speaker 1: sixteen minutes in their defensive structure, they do not give

28:39 Speaker 1: themselves a chance to win. And the losses that they

28:42 Speaker 1: suffer are a direct result of the fact that either

28:47 Speaker 1: they don't start strong with this defensive structure, they are

28:52 Speaker 1: unwilling to play their defensive structure because maybe they think

28:57 Speaker 1: they haven't one up on their opponent to do so.

29:01 Speaker 1: So if they're not playing their defensive structure and their

29:05 Speaker 1: goalie is not the goalie whoever it is, that evening

29:10 Speaker 1: is not right on point. They are not giving themselves

29:14 Speaker 1: a chance to win.

29:16 Speaker 2: That's it.

29:16 Speaker 3: I mean, I think that that was a perfect representation

29:19 Speaker 3: this game, in particular, perfect representation of a larger issue

29:24 Speaker 3: that is I don't know, is that like, how do

29:26 Speaker 3: you fix that?

29:27 Speaker 2: Is that a culture shift?

29:30 Speaker 3: Is that just continuing to work on the system, Like

29:35 Speaker 3: where does that land in?

29:38 Speaker 2: How you address that? You know, I don't know.

29:42 Speaker 1: That's something we should ask Marco because I'm sure that

29:44 Speaker 1: when he sees a game like that against the Red

29:48 Speaker 1: Wings where for the first periods, you guys are basically

29:52 Speaker 1: a no show and then you spot any team in

29:56 Speaker 1: the NHL, as I said in a snapshot, you spot

29:59 Speaker 1: any team NHL A three to nothing Lee. I don't

30:02 Speaker 1: know how the hell did plausibly think you're going to

30:04 Speaker 1: come back and win that game because you're not playing

30:08 Speaker 1: the way that you're supposed to be playing.

30:10 Speaker 3: Right, So they go from that game and we've now

30:17 Speaker 3: gotten a couple of guys back. We had Arvidson and

30:23 Speaker 3: middle stat both come back at different points leading up

30:29 Speaker 3: to this Detroit game. I believe we heard remind me

30:34 Speaker 3: which one was it? If not, both had not done

30:38 Speaker 3: really any practicing stat Arvidson prior to their return to

30:43 Speaker 3: the lineup. How much do you think that was a

30:48 Speaker 3: contribution to kind of some of that listless play versus Finally,

30:53 Speaker 3: seeming like by the time they played the Blues at home, everybody.

30:58 Speaker 2: Was now starting to kind of click back together.

31:01 Speaker 1: No, because you know, I thought Arbitson had some decent

31:04 Speaker 1: jump in the game against Detroit. It was the same old,

31:07 Speaker 1: same old in the instances where you know, you've got

31:10 Speaker 1: five Boston Bruins standing around in our own end looking

31:15 Speaker 1: at each other, like, who's going to do what here?

31:17 Speaker 1: That's what's frustrating. Yes, that's the point that I'm trying

31:22 Speaker 1: to make right. It wasn't for a lack of trying

31:25 Speaker 1: to get yourself scoring opportunity. It's what you're doing when

31:29 Speaker 1: the other team is coming into your own zone and

31:32 Speaker 1: you're making things so goddamn too goddamn easy.

31:37 Speaker 3: Do you think then, because what we saw against the

31:40 Speaker 3: Blue was I would say arguably the complete transformation, because

31:45 Speaker 3: not only did they actually start on time, they had

31:52 Speaker 3: contributions all across the lineup, not just coming from Morgan yeeky.

31:57 Speaker 3: Do you think that that kind of turnaround was a

31:59 Speaker 3: result of let's say, knocking heads together and saying, what

32:03 Speaker 3: are you idiots doing?

32:04 Speaker 2: Hello?

32:05 Speaker 3: Remember the system? Or do you think there was something

32:07 Speaker 3: else kind of contributing in that case?

32:11 Speaker 2: No?

32:11 Speaker 1: I think those are instances the game against Detroit, which

32:14 Speaker 1: I have to give credit to the coaches and also

32:17 Speaker 1: you know who, those who are leaders in that locker

32:20 Speaker 1: room basically looking at each other in the face and

32:23 Speaker 1: holding each other accountable and saying, we played like dog.

32:27 Speaker 2: Shit in the first two periods.

32:29 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we can't play like that and expect to

32:34 Speaker 1: win hockey games. And I think this is the difference.

32:38 Speaker 1: Right when you see the bounce backs, and they have

32:42 Speaker 1: been pretty consistent in bouncing back, it's not they're not

32:47 Speaker 1: doing scenarios where Okay, they have a game like that

32:51 Speaker 1: against Detroit and then it carries into the next game,

32:54 Speaker 1: and then they lose another game and they lose a

32:56 Speaker 1: third game. So to their credit, whoever is taking the

33:01 Speaker 1: bowl by the horn in those instances is getting too

33:05 Speaker 1: other players. My bigger issue is why I don't understand

33:10 Speaker 1: why you're not doing this consistently right when I know

33:15 Speaker 1: you're not going to win every game.

33:17 Speaker 2: It's just not possible, well plausible, right, But when you

33:21 Speaker 2: see instances of the first two periods of that Detroit game,

33:26 Speaker 2: yeah right, and then you say, oh Jesus, we've been

33:29 Speaker 2: playing like crap. You've got to get our leap together. Yeah, well,

33:34 Speaker 2: you know, yeah, you gave it a valiant effort in

33:36 Speaker 2: the third period, but I don't really even think the

33:39 Speaker 2: game was that close.

33:40 Speaker 3: No, And it's and you make an interesting point, you know,

33:43 Speaker 3: why do we keep finding ourselves in that kind of

33:47 Speaker 3: situation where okay, so they have that kind of like,

33:51 Speaker 3: you know, deflated, uninspired play, just ridiculous, like some of

33:55 Speaker 3: these things that we've seen. Then they kind of come back,

33:57 Speaker 3: they come back to life, they're clicking, they're all over

33:59 Speaker 3: the place, they're doing this, that and the other, and

34:02 Speaker 3: then they slowly start to deflate again. Why does that

34:05 Speaker 3: keep happening? You know, why can't they address it after

34:09 Speaker 3: one period? Why is it two periods, three periods before

34:13 Speaker 3: they can like wake up and say, oh, yeah, that's right,

34:15 Speaker 3: we're doing that thing again. I don't know, right right right?

34:19 Speaker 1: Yeah? And and you know, these issues aren't the Bruins

34:23 Speaker 1: aren't the only ones. Ver is struggling with these issues, right,

34:27 Speaker 1: You don't want to make excuses. Yes there have been injuries,

34:31 Speaker 1: yeah right, Yes, their schedule sucks, but you still got

34:35 Speaker 1: to play the game exactly.

34:37 Speaker 3: This was also the Blues game was also Monty's first

34:40 Speaker 3: time back to the Garden. I wasn't really sure how

34:43 Speaker 3: that was going to go.

34:45 Speaker 1: I can't I can't deal with these tribute videos. What

34:48 Speaker 1: did what did he do that warranted getting a tribute video?

34:51 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was.

34:52 Speaker 3: Weird because there were there was someone else recently who

34:54 Speaker 3: came back and all they got was a picture and

34:57 Speaker 3: it was a player.

34:58 Speaker 2: They like, what do we doing here? Right?

35:02 Speaker 1: Something that you know should be quote unquote special, and

35:05 Speaker 1: now we're watering it down so that every person who's

35:08 Speaker 1: a former player or coach gets a tribute video like

35:12 Speaker 1: Monty Listen, right, did he get a raw deal here?

35:15 Speaker 1: Perhaps he did, But what did you do Monty for

35:19 Speaker 1: the Boston Brew? And now, I don't know, just just

35:22 Speaker 1: a little pet pee.

35:23 Speaker 2: I agree. This game.

35:27 Speaker 3: Was I thought it was actually one of their more

35:29 Speaker 3: exciting of the of the three from last week. You know,

35:32 Speaker 3: we had, shockingly a goal from Geeky, but Arbitson and

35:36 Speaker 3: Zaka actually had two and they were power plays.

35:39 Speaker 2: Two goals shocking. Yeah, one was a power play.

35:42 Speaker 1: What was just strength because the power play has been

35:45 Speaker 1: a little bit a little bit of knee mick a

35:46 Speaker 1: little bit lately, so it was good to see a

35:48 Speaker 1: power play goal. And yeah, so Arbardson hit the four

35:54 Speaker 1: hundred point mark ye in that game as well, So

35:57 Speaker 1: that's that's kind of a cool modelstone for a player. Yeah,

36:00 Speaker 1: reach and you know, good bounce back contributions up and

36:03 Speaker 1: down the lineup. Jonis Corporsalo was solid in that he

36:08 Speaker 1: had thirty eight sabs. Crazy, crazy crazy, And I really

36:12 Speaker 1: wanted Jordan Bennington to get lit up so that Monty

36:16 Speaker 1: would have to pull him again.

36:18 Speaker 2: Yeah.

36:18 Speaker 3: Well, I kind of wonder if Monty didn't pull him

36:21 Speaker 3: because of the whole argument that they had last time

36:24 Speaker 3: he got pulled.

36:25 Speaker 2: I'm sure that's why he did. No.

36:26 Speaker 1: No, I'm sure that's why he didn't because he didn't

36:28 Speaker 1: want to have to answer questions two games in a row.

36:32 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, and hey, you didn't want to get pulled,

36:34 Speaker 3: So here you go. You get to fit here and

36:36 Speaker 3: let in five goals. But I've been super impressed with Arbitson.

36:40 Speaker 2: I think I like his game.

36:42 Speaker 3: You know, it took him a little, it took him

36:43 Speaker 3: a minute to kind of get going for Boston, but

36:46 Speaker 3: so far, so good. I think that he's been doing

36:50 Speaker 3: the things that we were hoping to see from him.

36:52 Speaker 3: So I think that's been an incredibly useful Well, I

36:56 Speaker 3: guess technically it was a trade, right, it feels like

36:58 Speaker 3: it was a signing, but it was a trade.

37:00 Speaker 1: No no, But it was a traite no no.

37:01 Speaker 2: And I think he feels like he's in a good

37:03 Speaker 2: spot too.

37:04 Speaker 1: I think, you know, I think he took a lot

37:06 Speaker 1: of heat in Edmonton, some of it probably was not justifiable. Now, yeah,

37:13 Speaker 1: Edmonton's a hot mess. You know, he's he's in a

37:16 Speaker 1: better place. He's in a better place.

37:18 Speaker 2: And then they played the Devils.

37:19 Speaker 3: The Devils came into that game having lost two games prior,

37:24 Speaker 3: both being shutouts, coming into that game against Boston, and

37:29 Speaker 3: the Devils are really struggling without Jack Hughes.

37:32 Speaker 1: It's it's kind of jocket. They haven't won a game

37:35 Speaker 1: yet in December. They haven't won a game yet. And

37:38 Speaker 1: before they after they've played the Bruins, they've been outscored

37:42 Speaker 1: fifteen to four.

37:44 Speaker 3: Crazy because they have so many good offensive players on

37:49 Speaker 3: that team. You know, we know that Jack Hughes isn't

37:52 Speaker 3: the only player who can score goals there. But for

37:55 Speaker 3: whatever reason, that team is now just dropping like a stone.

37:58 Speaker 3: I mean, they were a top ten last month and

38:01 Speaker 3: now they are fighting for a wild card spot at

38:04 Speaker 3: this point, and credit to the.

38:06 Speaker 1: Bruins for taking advantage of a wounded yet team. Those

38:09 Speaker 1: are the kinds of teams, yes, that you do need

38:13 Speaker 1: to feast on.

38:14 Speaker 2: For lack of a better word.

38:16 Speaker 3: Well, and you know, to reference back to Thanksgiving model

38:20 Speaker 3: and saying, you know, the Boston needs to get what

38:22 Speaker 3: would consider be considered two extra regulation wins, and I

38:26 Speaker 3: think that this could be one of those because this

38:30 Speaker 3: is a team, like you said, where they're coming in wounded,

38:33 Speaker 3: whether it's through injury.

38:35 Speaker 2: Or bad luck or what have you.

38:38 Speaker 3: And those are the teams that Boston has to take

38:42 Speaker 3: advantage of and actually get those wins.

38:44 Speaker 2: And they did.

38:44 Speaker 3: I will say the very beginning of this game really

38:48 Speaker 3: not all that interesting. I would say borderline boring. But

38:54 Speaker 3: that was because the Devils twice had extended extend periods

39:00 Speaker 3: of time where they were just smothering Boston. It was

39:04 Speaker 3: almost very reminiscent of twenty five years ago in the

39:08 Speaker 3: New Jersey Devils where they would smother teams.

39:09 Speaker 2: I mean they were trap systems. So all that was

39:11 Speaker 2: happening in the oh.

39:12 Speaker 1: God, great hockey to watch, but I mean it won

39:16 Speaker 1: them some cups. But right, and so this wasn't quite

39:21 Speaker 1: like that, but it was smothering hockey, and so it

39:25 Speaker 1: was a little boring to me. But Boston weathered the storm.

39:28 Speaker 1: They I think they left the first period with certainly

39:31 Speaker 1: fewer than ten shots on goals.

39:33 Speaker 2: They held on. They waited for.

39:35 Speaker 3: The devils to kind of tucker themselves out a little bit,

39:37 Speaker 3: and then they took advantage of it, and Swayman just

39:41 Speaker 3: he was back in good form. I honestly was surprised

39:44 Speaker 3: to see him in net not because necessarily because of

39:47 Speaker 3: how terrible he'd had a time in Detroit, but combined

39:52 Speaker 3: with the fact that, okay, he laid that egg on

39:55 Speaker 3: what was it Monday or Tuesday, and then the prior

39:57 Speaker 3: game Corposalo was so so phenomenal, I thought we might

40:02 Speaker 3: see Corpusolo. But regardless, we got lucky because Swaymen had

40:07 Speaker 3: his twenty nine saves, Andrew Peak finally got his goal

40:09 Speaker 3: for the season with an empty netter.

40:11 Speaker 2: Did you see the got the monkey off his back?

40:14 Speaker 3: And middle Stat's beautiful tic tac toe goal was just

40:19 Speaker 3: you love to see it.

40:19 Speaker 1: That's that to me. I love though I love those

40:23 Speaker 1: kinds of goals. There's nothing there's nothing prettier in hockey.

40:26 Speaker 2: I agree that is.

40:29 Speaker 3: You see that when you've got line mates that are

40:33 Speaker 3: really in sync, they really know where they're going to be,

40:37 Speaker 3: they're communicating. So you love to see that. You love

40:40 Speaker 3: to see the same because of how especially last year,

40:42 Speaker 3: the chemistry, the lack of you know, cohesiveness. You'll love

40:49 Speaker 3: to see this transformation. So Boston is heading out on

40:56 Speaker 3: a mini I mean I call them mini because they're

40:59 Speaker 3: not doing any sort of extensive road trips. So it's

41:01 Speaker 3: Britain but a little visit to the Midwest. They're heading

41:06 Speaker 3: out this week to Saint Louis, then they're going up

41:09 Speaker 3: to Winnipeg, and they're rounding it out in Minnesota. You know,

41:13 Speaker 3: Saint Louis finally turning things around after having lost to

41:17 Speaker 3: the Ruins. But then when they go to Winnipeg, there's

41:20 Speaker 3: no Hellibuck. There's Jonathan Tayes, who listeners maybe have forgotten.

41:25 Speaker 3: He came back after two years away from suffering from

41:29 Speaker 3: long COVID.

41:30 Speaker 2: He's not doing awesome.

41:32 Speaker 1: No, I mean when I looked up that stat today

41:34 Speaker 1: of him being a minus thirteen, this was Jonathan Taves,

41:39 Speaker 1: who you know, patries bergeron Jonathan Taves like such.

41:44 Speaker 2: I know, sound defensively responsible forward.

41:48 Speaker 1: Yeah, I found that to be a little and he

41:50 Speaker 1: and he is played in every game for the Jets.

41:53 Speaker 2: Yeah, so which good Good on him.

41:56 Speaker 3: Good on him for at least being able to play

41:59 Speaker 3: all those games.

42:00 Speaker 1: Here's another instance where the Bruins need to take advantage

42:02 Speaker 1: of a team that is struggling without fin number one goalie.

42:06 Speaker 1: They're without cornor Hallibuck for the foreseeable future. You know,

42:10 Speaker 1: my expectation is win in Saint Louis, Well, take points

42:14 Speaker 1: in Saint Louis, take points in Winnipeg, and then Minnesota

42:18 Speaker 1: might be a different story because that is a legit

42:22 Speaker 1: hockey team.

42:22 Speaker 2: Yes it is.

42:23 Speaker 3: And if you haven't seen their rookie goaltender, they call

42:27 Speaker 3: him the Wall Wolstatt. He's just he's phenomenal. For as

42:31 Speaker 3: fantastic as a rookie goalie, Dustin Wolf was this guy.

42:35 Speaker 2: He's next level as well.

42:37 Speaker 3: So I don't know who they're gonna have in net

42:41 Speaker 3: when Boston comes, but the Bruins are gonna have to

42:44 Speaker 3: really be offensively aggressive as much as they possibly can

42:49 Speaker 3: because they because Minnesota just they have that young netminder

42:52 Speaker 3: who's been phenomenal and of course their defense with Corilla Thrill.

42:57 Speaker 3: You can't you can't forget about him at all. So

43:00 Speaker 3: they're they're a fantastic team. Yeah, they're they're right now.

43:04 Speaker 3: There are top seven, top seventeen in the league, the

43:07 Speaker 3: wild there. So let's talk stick taps. Who who do

43:11 Speaker 3: you want to give a stick tap to?

43:13 Speaker 1: Going with Pablo Zaka for his real performance because you

43:17 Speaker 1: know we've given him a little bit of heat in

43:19 Speaker 1: the past too. It takes a shot but goes high,

43:23 Speaker 1: goes wide, goes here, goes there, right, so good on him.

43:27 Speaker 2: Two goes against the Blues.

43:29 Speaker 1: Morgan Geeky's kind of stay in the stick taps because

43:31 Speaker 1: it's just inevitable that he's just there. And I want

43:35 Speaker 1: to give some stick taps to Victor Arvidson and Elias

43:40 Speaker 1: Lindholm because they in you know, the last handful of games.

43:43 Speaker 1: If they're putting up some points too, since they got

43:46 Speaker 1: me in the lineup, much needed secondary points. Yeah for

43:49 Speaker 1: this team too, you know, so put on them. And honestly,

43:53 Speaker 1: Alex Steves, I don't know how you're going to take

43:55 Speaker 1: this guy out of the lineup when everyone's back healthy.

43:58 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know what they're going to do

44:00 Speaker 3: because they can't send him down because they'd have to

44:02 Speaker 3: send him through waivers.

44:04 Speaker 1: He's doing, and has done so far, everything that an

44:08 Speaker 1: organization has asked you to do. Earn the opportunity, make

44:12 Speaker 1: the most of that opportunity, and you're helping the team

44:16 Speaker 1: get wins. So how do you how do you take

44:18 Speaker 1: this guy out of the lineup?

44:20 Speaker 3: Guys like him, ask Barrow, these guys who have come

44:23 Speaker 3: up in Boston's time of need, And we say all

44:28 Speaker 3: the time, if you're gonna get called up because somebody's

44:31 Speaker 3: injured or whatever, all that we ask is that you

44:34 Speaker 3: not cause damage. Right, these guys not only have not

44:38 Speaker 3: done that, which is good, they have significantly contributed in

44:44 Speaker 3: a positive way to the outcome of games. Yeah, it's

44:49 Speaker 3: a good problem to have for Boston quite frankly. And

44:51 Speaker 3: I would also throw in, of course, the goaltending. You know,

44:54 Speaker 3: our goaltending for on the whole. Yes, one or two

44:58 Speaker 3: games here and there, individual goalies have not had great games.

45:02 Speaker 3: It's always going to be more amplified when they don't

45:05 Speaker 3: have their best game. Also, if a if the team

45:08 Speaker 3: in front of them isn't really helping them out. But

45:11 Speaker 3: on the whole, the goaltending continues to be a pretty

45:14 Speaker 3: reliable feature of this defense sture.

45:18 Speaker 2: Steady.

45:18 Speaker 1: It's been steady for the most part, which when you're

45:21 Speaker 1: playing the structure that we're being told that they want

45:23 Speaker 1: to play, the lives heavily on goaltender right exactly.

45:27 Speaker 2: In the penalty box though, Bruins defencemen are just not

45:31 Speaker 2: scoring any goals. And I don't know.

45:34 Speaker 3: If that's weird to us because the last few years

45:38 Speaker 3: we've been used to the system where they just they

45:42 Speaker 3: are involved in offensive work. But right now you brought

45:48 Speaker 3: this statistic to my attention. As a group, the Bruins

45:51 Speaker 3: defensemen have only had seven goals. Meanwhile, you've got Jacob Chickrin,

45:55 Speaker 3: he's got eleven just for himself. Yea, even Matthew Schaefer

46:00 Speaker 3: as eight, Like is this first year a rookie?

46:03 Speaker 2: Right? Yeah?

46:03 Speaker 1: So you know, and I think this was talked about

46:06 Speaker 1: before the season even started, about the contributions that we

46:09 Speaker 1: needed from the back end, both defensively and to some

46:11 Speaker 1: degree offensively. While for the most part the defensemen are

46:16 Speaker 1: doing their job, sure defensively, they got to be pushing

46:20 Speaker 1: the pace a little bit more offensively, I think for

46:22 Speaker 1: this team to have to have success, especially when you

46:25 Speaker 1: get Macavoy dock right, You've got you've you got to.

46:29 Speaker 1: You got to see a little bit more offense from

46:31 Speaker 1: from these guys.

46:32 Speaker 2: Yeap, just a little bit.

46:33 Speaker 3: That's what we've got going on ahead this this week.

46:36 Speaker 3: Hopefully we'll be able to get a couple of snapshots

46:39 Speaker 3: out there for you folks for our reactions after these games.

46:42 Speaker 3: They're not like West Coast games, so I expect to

46:45 Speaker 3: be able to, for the most part, watch most of

46:48 Speaker 3: the games in full without falling asleep.

46:49 Speaker 2: I don't know about you, Maria, but I'm not making

46:51 Speaker 2: any promises. But any other final thoughts before we say goodbye.

46:58 Speaker 1: No, it's been a yeah, pretty steady diet of like

47:01 Speaker 1: three games per week here, three games per week, the

47:04 Speaker 1: games per week, So I myself am looking forward to

47:08 Speaker 1: when we get to that little Christmas.

47:10 Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be it'll be a good thing.

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