Boston Bruins are Struggling at the Worst Time | Bruins News | Ep. 137

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0:41 Speaker 3: Most? Welcome in everyone to another episode of Ruins Tape

0:53 Speaker 3: to tape. We are recording today on Monday, April sixth.

0:57 Speaker 3: I will be your host today, Maria from water Town.

1:00 Speaker 3: I'm going to welcome in my co host Caroline with

1:04 Speaker 3: a ky.

1:05 Speaker 1: How are you? How is the weekend? Besides some lousy hockey?

1:10 Speaker 1: Oh my god, it was just terrible hockey to watch.

1:13 Speaker 1: But the weather was decent, so that made me happy.

1:17 Speaker 1: Although it was definitely spitting snow this morning. We're not

1:21 Speaker 1: in the clear.

1:22 Speaker 3: Yeah.

1:22 Speaker 1: The Red Sox have a game this evening and I'm

1:25 Speaker 1: in Boston in case people don't know, and it will

1:28 Speaker 1: likely be temperatures potentially as well as in the twenties

1:34 Speaker 1: at Sunway Park. The scene bundle up, folks, It's April

1:37 Speaker 1: sixth and we're still freezing our asses off in the Longlands.

1:41 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we will be for a while. But I

1:45 Speaker 1: guess given the topic at hand, which is hockey, it's

1:49 Speaker 1: would segue that pulled into hockey talk. So to set

1:53 Speaker 1: our teable today, I want to talk about. Obviously, we

1:56 Speaker 1: will touch on the games that occurred this WEE weekend

2:00 Speaker 1: for the Bruins, of which they played three games and

2:03 Speaker 1: only came away with one lousy point. And so the

2:06 Speaker 1: questions I want to dive into with regard to these

2:10 Speaker 1: games is what's currently right with the Bruins? What is

2:15 Speaker 1: wrong with the Bruins? Will the Bruins be a tuck

2:18 Speaker 1: out in the playoffs, as some who I believe are

2:22 Speaker 1: smarter than I am are speculating, And should the Bruins

2:27 Speaker 1: consider bringing James Hagens up? And the segue for that

2:31 Speaker 1: question is that we are clearly definitely struggling with generating

2:36 Speaker 1: offense five on five and also powerfuly. So those are

2:41 Speaker 1: the topics of conversation for today's podcasts. But before that,

2:46 Speaker 1: I want to do a little housekeeping in that today

2:49 Speaker 1: will be the last that many of you will be

2:51 Speaker 1: hearing from me for the next couple of podcasts because

2:55 Speaker 1: I will be traveling on a beautiful trip to Italy

2:59 Speaker 1: or a few day, so I will be missing the

3:02 Speaker 1: end of the Bruin season and likely the start of

3:05 Speaker 1: playoffs until I get back. But we do have a

3:08 Speaker 1: special guest who will be joining Marline next week, Anna

3:12 Speaker 1: Hudak from prism QUACKI and Anna has joined us before

3:16 Speaker 1: and the timing is impeccable in that Anna can speak

3:20 Speaker 1: very informatively with regard to the Columbus Blue Jackets and

3:25 Speaker 1: the Detroit Red Wings, both of which are still trying

3:28 Speaker 1: to worm their way into a playoff position.

3:31 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be a good time. It's gonna be

3:33 Speaker 3: a very good time, friend of the pod, good Yes,

3:35 Speaker 3: thank you, thanks friend in advance, Anna for filling in

3:39 Speaker 3: for me. So before we get started on the Bruins,

3:43 Speaker 3: let's do our typical little trip around the rank.

3:46 Speaker 1: And for those of you who weren't paying any attention yesterday,

3:50 Speaker 1: and I admittedly am one of those people because we

3:53 Speaker 1: had a very busy Easter weekend here with all of

3:56 Speaker 1: our grandkids running around the place. But Patrick was fired

4:01 Speaker 1: by the New York Islanders and Pete de Beer's is

4:04 Speaker 1: now their coach, which again, now this is the second

4:08 Speaker 1: coach within a relatively short period of time for teams

4:12 Speaker 1: that have decent playoff positioning who have relieved their coaches.

4:18 Speaker 1: And I'm not quite sure I understand it. I know

4:22 Speaker 1: with respect to the Islanders that they had lost or

4:26 Speaker 1: games in a row and were struggling offensively, struggling defensively.

4:31 Speaker 3: It seemed like nothing was really going right, and that

4:35 Speaker 3: I don't understand what precipitates these changes other than you know,

4:40 Speaker 3: my theory sometimes is you can't fire an entire roster

4:44 Speaker 3: right and still the coach in an effort to maybe

4:49 Speaker 3: send a message wake the team the hell up. This

4:51 Speaker 3: seems a little desperate to me at this time of

4:54 Speaker 3: the season to fire a coach. Yeah, I was at

4:57 Speaker 3: a loss when I read this yesterday. This one confused

5:01 Speaker 3: me because, first of all, it was exactly a week

5:05 Speaker 3: after Cassidy was out from Vegas and Tortorella was brought

5:08 Speaker 3: in in his place.

5:10 Speaker 1: And obviously, as we discussed.

5:12 Speaker 3: It was enough of maybe a little bit of a

5:15 Speaker 3: breathing room. Yes, it was close to the end of

5:18 Speaker 3: the season, but it wasn't that close. And you bring

5:22 Speaker 3: John Tortorella in.

5:23 Speaker 1: For a very specific purpose. I could understand that.

5:27 Speaker 3: I get that as an outsider's perspective and understanding of

5:31 Speaker 3: the team culture, the organization's culture in Vegas. Like, all right,

5:36 Speaker 3: I buy that that makes sense. They're crazy. They'll stab

5:39 Speaker 3: anyone in the back to preserve a season. They were,

5:43 Speaker 3: and I believe are still firmly in a playoff spot,

5:47 Speaker 3: so they had the luxury to do that. The Islanders

5:52 Speaker 3: confused me because they've lost some games. By that account,

5:57 Speaker 3: and by what you've described, I mean, we've seen the

6:01 Speaker 3: exact same thing from the Bruins. I believe when the

6:05 Speaker 3: firing happened at that time, the Islanders were in a

6:09 Speaker 3: playoff spot. They've just been bumped by the Philadelphia Flyers,

6:15 Speaker 3: so they are now on the outside looking in, and

6:19 Speaker 3: they have four games left, so ten ten days.

6:24 Speaker 1: Basically, this seems kind of crazy.

6:28 Speaker 3: I've thought about since we last talked, your point of

6:32 Speaker 3: not wanting to throw away a season, or that you

6:36 Speaker 3: know everything that you've built towards for that playoffs in

6:39 Speaker 3: regards to our conversation about Vegas, and I get that.

6:44 Speaker 1: I buy that.

6:45 Speaker 3: I think that makes a lot of sense, But this

6:47 Speaker 3: one doesn't really make a lot of sense, because what

6:50 Speaker 3: is a new coach going to do other than as

6:53 Speaker 3: we've said, and we typically see this happen much earlier

6:57 Speaker 3: in the season, that when you team is really just

7:02 Speaker 3: falling flat, you fire the coach, not necessarily because the

7:07 Speaker 3: coach should be fired, but because you can't fire the

7:10 Speaker 3: whole team.

7:11 Speaker 1: And as the Rangers proved, apparently you can fire players.

7:15 Speaker 3: However, you can't do that right now because the trade

7:19 Speaker 3: deadline has passed.

7:21 Speaker 1: Those guys couldn't play, So that's kind of the only

7:25 Speaker 1: other option.

7:26 Speaker 3: I mean, I think I'm trying to like come up

7:28 Speaker 3: with a good enough reason in my head, you know,

7:31 Speaker 3: did lose the room that badly that it like they

7:36 Speaker 3: literally could not go on, that they could not be

7:39 Speaker 3: relied upon to perform in the playoffs. De Bor is

7:42 Speaker 3: an excellent coach, but what can he possibly do other

7:46 Speaker 3: than be a body on that bench. They don't play

7:50 Speaker 3: that in their favor, But I think the timing is

7:54 Speaker 3: such that from what I've read a little bit and

7:56 Speaker 3: listen to some folks, it seems like it was warrant

7:59 Speaker 3: is shit are The Islanders were playing more of like

8:03 Speaker 3: a kind of an uptempo game, like a running gun

8:06 Speaker 3: type of front and they were getting and have been

8:08 Speaker 3: getting really really.

8:09 Speaker 1: Good goaltending as a result of that. But I think

8:12 Speaker 1: they've stumbled a little bit in that structure. And I

8:17 Speaker 1: don't know if it was a philosophical thing between coach

8:21 Speaker 1: and GM about the system of play that they wanted

8:24 Speaker 1: to implement, if the GM wanted to tighten things up

8:28 Speaker 1: a little bit, because that's all well and good that

8:30 Speaker 1: system when you're winning games, but when you start losing games,

8:34 Speaker 1: like you know, they had a really bad loss against

8:37 Speaker 1: Penguins eight to three, they lost to Buffalo and they

8:41 Speaker 1: and they have since fired off four losses in a

8:44 Speaker 1: row as a result of that. You know, they lost

8:46 Speaker 1: four to one to Philadelphia and then they lost four

8:49 Speaker 1: to three to Carolina, so you know, and again it's

8:52 Speaker 1: also a timing thing as well, because if you were

8:54 Speaker 1: going to make a change and bring in a new coach,

8:57 Speaker 1: to your point, the Islanders don't say again until Wednesday night,

9:02 Speaker 1: So they've got four days now to get Pete de

9:06 Speaker 1: Beers in and have him implement something, meet with players,

9:11 Speaker 1: meet with veterans. However, they're going to make a subsequent

9:14 Speaker 1: change to try and get them back into playoff contention,

9:19 Speaker 1: So you know, again, it could be an issue like

9:21 Speaker 1: we've come so far, We've worked so hard to put

9:24 Speaker 1: ourselves in a playoff spot to now seemingly have that

9:29 Speaker 1: orl go down the drain simply because you know, we

9:33 Speaker 1: have a coach potentially, and I'm not saying that's what

9:35 Speaker 1: the case is, but if he doesn't want to make

9:37 Speaker 1: changes to the way that they play, then again, you know,

9:42 Speaker 1: sometimes the GM is forced to make a difficult decision.

9:45 Speaker 3: Yeah, but then now you are forcing the team to

9:50 Speaker 3: change the way that they play because our new coach

9:53 Speaker 3: may or may not. I know from my understanding from

9:57 Speaker 3: the other news sources that I could. I believe it

10:01 Speaker 3: was the Athletic Hockey Show I was listening to recently

10:03 Speaker 3: discussing the Tortorella transition over in Vegas and how these

10:09 Speaker 3: are the things that we should be expecting from him.

10:11 Speaker 3: Typically when he comes in and takes over like this,

10:15 Speaker 3: the teams are not necessarily going to see that massive

10:19 Speaker 3: bump that you normally see. But he's also going to

10:22 Speaker 3: basically come in and he's going to take Cassidy's system

10:27 Speaker 3: and basically apply that same system but with his flavor.

10:32 Speaker 3: But that's kind of how he operates, and that's how

10:35 Speaker 3: he's going to be doing And that makes sense because

10:37 Speaker 3: this is a system that this team has been playing

10:39 Speaker 3: in all season. What's the expectation here because this seems

10:44 Speaker 3: very risky and my impression is that some mensa candidate

10:51 Speaker 3: had the Islanders front office thought hey, that is a

10:55 Speaker 3: great idea, not really realizing that the context I think

10:59 Speaker 3: is extremely different. Vegas was in a spot, firmly in

11:03 Speaker 3: a spot because they're in like the worst the worst,

11:06 Speaker 3: so like they could they can't afford to lose some

11:09 Speaker 3: games at the end in that transition with a new

11:13 Speaker 3: coach and any new systems and things that he decides

11:15 Speaker 3: he wants to do. The Islanders do not have that

11:17 Speaker 3: luxury because they also now only have four games and

11:21 Speaker 3: they are currently not in the playoffs because they got

11:24 Speaker 3: bumped out completely.

11:26 Speaker 1: Not only out of their division ranking, but completely out.

11:30 Speaker 1: They currently are third in the wild card. Right, But

11:33 Speaker 1: what are you thinking? I think it was a sign

11:36 Speaker 1: of desperation and I have to do something to stop

11:39 Speaker 1: the bleeding. From the GM's perspective, because the Islanders have

11:43 Speaker 1: played one more game than all the other teams that

11:47 Speaker 1: they're chasing, and so I think when as a GM

11:50 Speaker 1: you sit down and look at that and you're like

11:52 Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, the maintaining our position. Now we keep losing, losing, losing,

11:56 Speaker 1: and oh, by the way, we don't have any games

11:59 Speaker 1: in hand. So I've got to stop the bleeding because

12:02 Speaker 1: that got to get this team back on the right

12:04 Speaker 1: track to at least start getting some points back in

12:07 Speaker 1: here and tightening up this race again. So you know,

12:11 Speaker 1: is it right or wrong? Who the hell knows. We'll

12:13 Speaker 1: find out by April fourteenth, because that's when the season

12:17 Speaker 1: comes to an end.

12:18 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a massive, massive risk because if you look

12:21 Speaker 3: at who the Islanders are playing in their final four games,

12:24 Speaker 3: they played Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal and Carolina.

12:27 Speaker 1: They could win two of those games. Is that going

12:30 Speaker 1: to be enough? You're right, it is a big risk,

12:33 Speaker 1: but apparently it was one that they're GM deemed worthy

12:37 Speaker 1: of taking in an effort to salvage the season. And honestly,

12:42 Speaker 1: it's also a way to say, listen, I did my best.

12:45 Speaker 1: I made a change to try and stop the bleeding,

12:48 Speaker 1: Because sometimes I wonder if some of these moves by

12:51 Speaker 1: GM's are also made in an effort to not put

12:54 Speaker 1: themselves on a hot seat when things start going down

12:57 Speaker 1: the shitter.

12:57 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think a move like this at time,

13:00 Speaker 3: under these circumstances, if they don't make it, this will

13:04 Speaker 3: have I.

13:05 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yea, yeah, blown up.

13:07 Speaker 3: I agree, there's a potential prayer you that have poopball

13:10 Speaker 3: over your face. But it's still somewhat shocking, right to

13:14 Speaker 3: be hearing about coaches being let go. And this is

13:18 Speaker 3: crazy in the NHL, And it's like a revolving wheel.

13:21 Speaker 3: It's like the wheel of fortune. Let's spin the wheel,

13:24 Speaker 3: but then names of the coaches who have lost their

13:27 Speaker 3: jobs and are still out there looking for jobs, and

13:29 Speaker 3: wherever the wheel lands, that's the coach that we're going

13:32 Speaker 3: to hire and bring back in. There's no really you

13:35 Speaker 3: to like look towards. Let's bring someone new and fresh in.

13:39 Speaker 3: Let's just go with what we know.

13:41 Speaker 1: So two other thoughts popped into my head.

13:43 Speaker 3: One, I found it very interesting that in both circumstances

13:48 Speaker 3: for Vegas and for the Islanders, what didn't happen, which

13:52 Speaker 3: we often see is if you see a firing of

13:55 Speaker 3: a coach earlier, let's say November, December, January, they usually

14:00 Speaker 3: just tap a current member of the coaching staff as

14:03 Speaker 3: interim head coach, right, they don't bring somebody new in.

14:07 Speaker 1: This is very different.

14:09 Speaker 3: And I wonder the second thought that I had was

14:14 Speaker 3: maybe not with the Vegas situation, because again, they're a

14:17 Speaker 3: whole other beast.

14:18 Speaker 1: I wonder if with the Islanders it was less.

14:22 Speaker 3: So about trying to save face going into the playoffs

14:26 Speaker 3: and more so about making sure that they get debor

14:31 Speaker 3: as for.

14:32 Speaker 1: The market for to speak, that's a validate point because

14:36 Speaker 1: I'm assuming Craig Ferrovi is probably in a very tentative

14:40 Speaker 1: situation in Toronto because they fired their GM. And typically

14:45 Speaker 1: the way it works is a GM is going to

14:48 Speaker 1: want to pick his own coach normally, so Barovi's on

14:51 Speaker 1: shaky grounds there as well. And what other segues into

14:55 Speaker 1: our next topic, which is teams that have clinched and

14:58 Speaker 1: teams that have been eliminated. You have got a boatload

15:02 Speaker 1: of teams that have been eliminated.

15:05 Speaker 3: Now, I don't think there's any chance that Paul Maurice

15:08 Speaker 3: is going to lose his job in Florida, but the

15:11 Speaker 3: Panthers have been mathematically eliminated. The maple Leafs have been

15:15 Speaker 3: mathematically eliminated. They've met a change at GM, so I

15:19 Speaker 3: don't think Barrubi's coaching position there is rock solid.

15:23 Speaker 1: I don't think he has the room anymore either. The

15:25 Speaker 1: New York Rangers again have been eliminated. I mean Mike

15:29 Speaker 1: Sullivan didn't do a bang up job there himself. The

15:33 Speaker 1: black Hawks have been eliminated, and the Canucks have been eliminated.

15:36 Speaker 1: So those are potentially one two people at five five

15:41 Speaker 1: open spots depending on what these organizations, what direction they decide.

15:46 Speaker 3: To go on. Honestly, I think the only organizations where

15:49 Speaker 3: you might not see really any kind of change in

15:53 Speaker 3: that regard would be Chicago and Florida.

15:56 Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think Chicago is still very

15:59 Speaker 1: much so actively building them.

16:02 Speaker 3: Being eliminated was not a reflection, I think on the

16:07 Speaker 3: direction that the team is going in. I think that's

16:09 Speaker 3: just where they are right now. But they are trending

16:11 Speaker 3: in the right direction. And then again with Florida, I mean,

16:14 Speaker 3: what do you expect. You've been to the Stanley Cup

16:16 Speaker 3: three years in a row. It's extremely taxing on the body.

16:20 Speaker 3: You can't maintain that like you could in the eighties

16:23 Speaker 3: when you would have the Islanders and the Oilers going

16:26 Speaker 3: back to back to back all those times, so I

16:29 Speaker 3: think those are the only two where we're not really

16:31 Speaker 3: going to see any kind of significant changes in those regards.

16:34 Speaker 1: I agree with you. So just an interesting, interesting bit

16:38 Speaker 1: of information on an Easter Sunday to say, holy what

16:42 Speaker 1: I mean? I checked it a couple of times to

16:44 Speaker 1: make sure that it was actually in fact correct, nos.

16:48 Speaker 3: And it was.

16:48 Speaker 1: So with luck to them, let's see what happens. We've

16:51 Speaker 1: got our own concerns with our team lumping into a

16:54 Speaker 1: playoff spot. Teams that have officially clinched a playoff spot,

16:59 Speaker 1: they have an official clinched you know, one their division

17:02 Speaker 1: or whatever other or trophy you want to wave around.

17:06 Speaker 1: But as of today, which is Monday, April sixth, we

17:10 Speaker 1: have Colorado Avalanche, Carolina Hurricanes, Tampa Bay Lighton, Dallas Stars,

17:16 Speaker 1: Buffalo Sabers, Montreal Canadians, and Minnesota Wild all officially clinched

17:22 Speaker 1: playoff spots and they're all one hundred points or more.

17:27 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's that theory stands true so far? Yeah,

17:32 Speaker 1: so far.

17:32 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's also turned into a doodle bug race this

17:37 Speaker 3: final week.

17:38 Speaker 1: This is what you didn't want, but it hasn't fact

17:40 Speaker 1: turned into them and it didn't seem.

17:42 Speaker 3: Like it was going to be one this year because

17:44 Speaker 3: literally a week ago it was this team's winning. Now

17:48 Speaker 3: this team's winning and they're getting in, and now it's like,

17:51 Speaker 3: for the love of God, can like, Boston, do you

17:54 Speaker 3: want this or do you not want this?

17:56 Speaker 1: Because well, the Ruins are very lucky in that the

17:58 Speaker 1: teams that have been been up there plus are also losing.

18:03 Speaker 1: So the Ruins right now seen a solid footing for

18:07 Speaker 1: the number one wild card spot.

18:10 Speaker 3: Better footing than But that doesn't mean we like how

18:13 Speaker 3: it's right exactly, because Boston has played seventy eight games,

18:18 Speaker 3: so that means there are only four games left, so

18:20 Speaker 3: eight points max at this point. But you have other

18:25 Speaker 3: teams in that really really close situation, which now I

18:30 Speaker 3: would argue you've got one, two, three, four, five teams

18:34 Speaker 3: gunning for one spot, Ottawa, the Islanders, Detroit, Columbus, and

18:40 Speaker 3: even Washington is only three points out there. I think

18:43 Speaker 3: Washington is probably less of a threats true than the

18:47 Speaker 3: teams you previously margin. Plus you have Philadelphia, even though

18:52 Speaker 3: they are in the third spot of the Metro. I

18:55 Speaker 3: mean they have the same number of points as Ottawa,

18:59 Speaker 3: different division. So you're looking at the Islanders as their

19:03 Speaker 3: next threat. With eighty nine points. Philly has one more

19:07 Speaker 3: game Detroit Columbus. They've all played only seventy seven I mean,

19:12 Speaker 3: if they were to win all of them, then you're

19:14 Speaker 3: looking at ten points and a bunch of them play

19:16 Speaker 3: each other this final week, so it's it's madness.

19:20 Speaker 1: And again, this is great to the league break for

19:23 Speaker 1: the sport to have because they can point to look

19:26 Speaker 1: at what great parody we have. They're all losing. Nobody

19:30 Speaker 1: wants that.

19:31 Speaker 3: Nobody wants that last spot, Jesus so just because the

19:36 Speaker 3: Kadchuk boys intriguely so they have their own podcasts, and

19:42 Speaker 3: they had Dad on the podcast and one of the

19:44 Speaker 3: topics of conversation was, you know, the back to back games,

19:48 Speaker 3: and he was Dad was comparing back in his day

19:52 Speaker 3: when he played, which was a very different right he played.

19:55 Speaker 1: I mean, let's face it, most of these guys play her.

19:57 Speaker 1: They do play her. They didn't have the back to

19:59 Speaker 1: back they didn't play with the same kind of intensity.

20:02 Speaker 1: James Baster. These players are a hell of a lot

20:05 Speaker 1: stronger than they were back then, and they're likely playing

20:08 Speaker 1: more games than they did back in Bada Kuchuk's day. However,

20:13 Speaker 1: there was an instance where apparently Omar plays for the

20:17 Speaker 1: Auto Senators needed a day off, You needed a day

20:21 Speaker 1: of rest because the man has been open about his

20:24 Speaker 1: mental health struggles and his panic attacks. Like, yeah, I

20:29 Speaker 1: don't want to put words in his mouth, but if

20:32 Speaker 1: you listen to what he said, it creates an issue

20:36 Speaker 1: for Rady because he then needs to answer questions. He

20:40 Speaker 1: didn't have to publish the episode. It's their podcast, right,

20:45 Speaker 1: or just say listen, that's not what I think.

20:48 Speaker 3: If you have a problem with what he said, go

20:51 Speaker 3: ask him directly, or just don't you have the friggin thing.

20:54 Speaker 1: But you know, you get it, asked about it, but

20:56 Speaker 1: it was almost like intimating that and others this whole

21:02 Speaker 1: load management thing, because it's a big deal and a

21:05 Speaker 1: big controversy right now in the NBA, where the league

21:09 Speaker 1: is trying to figure out a way to get it addressed,

21:12 Speaker 1: because I agree with the fact that people are saying

21:16 Speaker 1: countless ridiculous sums of money to go to sporting events

21:19 Speaker 1: to specifically watch their team and watch their superstar or

21:24 Speaker 1: watch the superstar of another team, and then randomly this

21:28 Speaker 1: player is out of the game for quote unquote whatever.

21:31 Speaker 1: Load management well, that doesn't It shouldn't fly. It shouldn't

21:35 Speaker 1: be okay, It shouldn't be okay. So I understand the

21:38 Speaker 1: frustration with that, but players or former players should not

21:43 Speaker 1: be calling out each other when you don't. First of all,

21:46 Speaker 1: not your teammate, not your business, not your lockerable, don't

21:50 Speaker 1: say a friggin thing about it. And you two numb

21:52 Speaker 1: skulls should know better that you know your podcast is

21:56 Speaker 1: gaining in popularity, and you know people are listening to it,

22:00 Speaker 1: including the beat writers that follow your teams because they

22:04 Speaker 1: cover your teams, so they're listening to your podcasts. Do

22:07 Speaker 1: you not think you're going to get asked about it?

22:10 Speaker 1: First of all, nobody should have given those two idiots

22:13 Speaker 1: a microphone. The market is saturated with their faces and

22:16 Speaker 1: their voices. I'm sick and tired of these guys. I

22:18 Speaker 1: think they're terrible people, and I don't want to see

22:20 Speaker 1: their faces.

22:20 Speaker 3: Ever. They do intrigue me. I do find them somewhat entertaining.

22:27 Speaker 3: I would take them on my team. I wouldn't because

22:29 Speaker 3: I don't think that they're good people. I don't even

22:32 Speaker 3: want to be affiliated or associated with them whatsoever. I

22:36 Speaker 3: would almost argue and This is again just my interpretation.

22:40 Speaker 3: This is their podcast. They can edit it however they want,

22:44 Speaker 3: they can clip it out. There's a reason why.

22:46 Speaker 1: They didn't, and I wouldn't be surprised if they agreed

22:50 Speaker 1: with Dad, right.

22:51 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there might be something more deep rooted

22:55 Speaker 3: going on in Ottawa and in that locker room, So

22:58 Speaker 3: we'll likely hear more once you know.

23:00 Speaker 1: It's then when there's season after would comes to an end.

23:03 Speaker 3: Also, I'm gonna defend lenas to the end. I'm not

23:08 Speaker 3: saying right, no no, no, no, no no, no, no,

23:10 Speaker 3: you're not. But what I'm saying is, because this is

23:13 Speaker 3: the kind of it's always going to be this specific

23:15 Speaker 3: topic of conversation. To me, there are certain things that

23:18 Speaker 3: should stay in the wrong. This is not about all

23:21 Speaker 3: of it publicly at all ever, And you're one hundred

23:24 Speaker 3: percent right in that. It's fine if you're going to

23:27 Speaker 3: bring somebody on a parent who used to play, or

23:31 Speaker 3: just another player who used to play, to talk about

23:33 Speaker 3: the old days. Great, talk about the old days and

23:36 Speaker 3: your personal experience. But I also feel like it's a

23:39 Speaker 3: betrayal of the code of your part of this fraternity.

23:43 Speaker 3: So it was almost mocking.

23:46 Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't.

23:46 Speaker 3: You don't talk about what the other players could or

23:49 Speaker 3: couldn't do when you played, and you sure as hell

23:53 Speaker 3: don't have commentary on current players because you can't speak

23:58 Speaker 3: to what those other people, either in the past or

24:02 Speaker 3: right now are experiencing.

24:04 Speaker 1: Like you can't do that. You can't do that. I'm sorry.

24:07 Speaker 1: And Tuca was on the TNT desk yes in the

24:10 Speaker 1: game yesterday on Sunday and this specific came up, and

24:16 Speaker 1: you know, again, you want all these analysts to be

24:18 Speaker 1: open and honest and say what they feel. However, they

24:21 Speaker 1: do have relationships with current and former players, and Gernado

24:26 Speaker 1: without coming out and saying it, could tell that he

24:29 Speaker 1: would have preferred that he not have said anything. And

24:33 Speaker 1: Tuca's opinion was that, look, goalies are not going to

24:36 Speaker 1: say that they don't want to play because you get tired.

24:40 Speaker 1: They're going to say they can't play because they're either

24:43 Speaker 1: hurt or they're sick, and he should know that better

24:45 Speaker 1: than anyone else with the sickness stuff, so he's just

24:49 Speaker 1: kind of being They were being a bit dismissive, but

24:52 Speaker 1: they were also taking up for Venus.

24:55 Speaker 3: Yes rasks comment is if a goaltender say or any

25:01 Speaker 3: player for that matter, is taking a day off whatever

25:05 Speaker 3: you want to call it, Like, it's not because he

25:08 Speaker 3: wants to sit around and eat bonbonds. So also, you know, Keith,

25:13 Speaker 3: don't be such a literalist and think, oh, he's needing

25:17 Speaker 3: a day of rest. That means he's resting and he's tired. No,

25:19 Speaker 3: you idiot, that's just like a diplomatic way of saying, look,

25:22 Speaker 3: something's not right. He's not gonna you don't want to

25:25 Speaker 3: talk about why. It's just like you say upper body

25:28 Speaker 3: or you say lower body, like, and he's for airing

25:31 Speaker 3: the brunt of their workload and playing extremely well for

25:34 Speaker 3: the most part for this team, and it gets them

25:36 Speaker 3: into the playoff positioning that they're in. So it just

25:40 Speaker 3: was a bit of distraction and controversy that's likely not

25:44 Speaker 3: needed right now or a team that's fighting to get.

25:48 Speaker 4: Into a wild card spot. Yeah, yep, right, Well, let's

25:52 Speaker 4: talk about the Ruins and how much they're ruins. Okay,

25:55 Speaker 4: So we had that tremendous win against a pretty good,

25:59 Speaker 4: very good Dallas Star team.

26:00 Speaker 1: They cornched a playoff spot already six to three. The

26:03 Speaker 1: Bruins travel to Florida to play games against the Panthers,

26:08 Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Lightning, and then the very next day

26:11 Speaker 1: turn around and play the Philadelphia Flyers. On those three games,

26:16 Speaker 1: the Bruins managed to only secure one freaking point, and

26:19 Speaker 1: after the Florida game, Marco Sturm was not at all

26:23 Speaker 1: things and I think he literally came out and said

26:26 Speaker 1: that the Bruins basically disrespected their opponent. Now I have

26:30 Speaker 1: said that before.

26:32 Speaker 3: I thought the loss to the Maple Leagues was a

26:35 Speaker 3: bit of your disrespecting your opponent or not taking a

26:39 Speaker 3: lesser opponent quote unquote their quotes. Then we fast forward

26:42 Speaker 3: to the Tampa Bay Lightening game, which was for the

26:46 Speaker 3: most part a pretty good hockey game. Now, I will

26:49 Speaker 3: say in all three of these games, and you you

26:52 Speaker 3: can dispute me if you want, but I don't think

26:54 Speaker 3: you will. The Bruins have gotten and are getting unbelievable

26:58 Speaker 3: goal from both Slayman and Jonas unbelievable goaltender. If it

27:03 Speaker 3: wasn't for Yoni's corpus Salo so in the Philly game,

27:06 Speaker 3: I don't think they would have even secured one fourth. Yeah,

27:09 Speaker 3: I agree, Corpuslo had some unreal saves and Swaymen as well.

27:14 Speaker 1: Both of them played incredibly well. So what's going right

27:20 Speaker 1: and what's going wrong here?

27:22 Speaker 3: Because I can tell you for me, and I've raised

27:25 Speaker 3: this concern the last week or two, the slow starts

27:29 Speaker 3: or kind of falling asleep off the wheel. If they

27:31 Speaker 3: don't play at both sixty minutes, the system and the structure,

27:35 Speaker 3: then Marco Starr wants them to play in their likelihood

27:39 Speaker 3: for success drops inherently.

27:42 Speaker 1: Yes, they have become this team.

27:46 Speaker 3: This team has kind of evolved as the season has

27:49 Speaker 3: gone on, and we've gotten to a point where if

27:52 Speaker 3: they do not play that complete game, it's going to

27:56 Speaker 3: be a much bigger uphill climb.

27:59 Speaker 1: And we've seen them kind of recover in that sense.

28:03 Speaker 3: They played a good forty minutes because they were asleep

28:06 Speaker 3: at the wheel in the first period, which of course

28:09 Speaker 3: then makes I believe.

28:10 Speaker 1: In the Florida game, the first period terrible. Yeah, it

28:14 Speaker 1: was terrible. Yeah, that's right. And so they have to

28:18 Speaker 1: play well.

28:19 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not saying that they have to come

28:21 Speaker 3: out and score immediately, although that of course helps, But

28:24 Speaker 3: how do you how do you improve upon it?

28:27 Speaker 1: Like, how do you make that be a thing.

28:29 Speaker 3: If they haven't been able to consistently do that up

28:33 Speaker 3: until this point, I don't know are their passengers right now,

28:37 Speaker 3: are there, or at least passengers in the sense of

28:40 Speaker 3: thinking that, well, we've got five points on the next team,

28:47 Speaker 3: so we can we can afford to breathe a little

28:51 Speaker 3: bit still instead of just treating every game like you're

28:55 Speaker 3: only a point ahead of the next team in line.

28:58 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know how you games when

29:01 Speaker 1: you're five on five, scoring has seemingly dried up. You

29:05 Speaker 1: can't score on the powers play, and then you have

29:07 Speaker 1: instances where you have scatterings of periods where you can't

29:12 Speaker 1: manage more than five or shots on goal in a period.

29:16 Speaker 1: Oh and by the way, then you wind up having

29:19 Speaker 1: twenty one turnovers or takeaways in some games. And I

29:23 Speaker 1: brought this up last week too, the odd man rushes.

29:26 Speaker 1: It's one thing if you're struggling to generate scoring, but

29:30 Speaker 1: then and again, maybe that's an issue of you're trying

29:33 Speaker 1: to do a little too luch, too many guys to

29:36 Speaker 1: try to do too much, But then you're giving up

29:38 Speaker 1: odd man rushes. So then you're making your goaltender's job

29:42 Speaker 1: even harder. Yeah, to your.

29:43 Speaker 3: Point, against Tampa Bay, Boston had only twenty two shots

29:47 Speaker 3: on goal. They had nineteen shots on goal in Philadelphia.

29:52 Speaker 3: That's it. And not only does that make for a

29:55 Speaker 3: very boring game, and not in overtime, by the way,

29:58 Speaker 3: and now god seeing not one in overtime number one,

30:02 Speaker 3: because in Pasta and I got called for penalty and

30:05 Speaker 3: then Charlie mcavoyd took an undisciplined penalty right after that. Now, again,

30:11 Speaker 3: I get that these guys are trying to be leaders,

30:13 Speaker 3: and I know that Pasta was gassed, you still have

30:17 Speaker 3: to have a freaking awareness ware stick is what you're doing.

30:21 Speaker 1: You know what time of the game, it is, what's

30:24 Speaker 1: on the line.

30:25 Speaker 3: You just can't do shit like that against desperate teams

30:30 Speaker 3: because you're gonna wind up paying for it. And they did. Yeah,

30:34 Speaker 3: well that was the thing that irritated me the most

30:37 Speaker 3: about the Philadelphia game from last night.

30:40 Speaker 1: We hadn't seen this in a while.

30:41 Speaker 3: The thing that drives me bonkers always any team that

30:46 Speaker 3: is playing the way Boston played with the stick infractions.

30:50 Speaker 1: That's lazy hockey. That is lazy ass hockey.

30:55 Speaker 2: When you were getting be on the rush, you're getting

30:59 Speaker 2: caught flat footed, so all you can think to do

31:03 Speaker 2: is to hook or hold or trip play better hockey,

31:07 Speaker 2: be faster, be in your right position.

31:10 Speaker 1: And on top of that, the fact that in this

31:14 Speaker 1: past week you had.

31:16 Speaker 3: Situations where they couldn't enter the zone, they couldn't get

31:19 Speaker 3: set up. I mean, every power play, every power play

31:23 Speaker 3: was basically a winste of time because there was there

31:26 Speaker 3: was no setup. They couldn't get established in the zone.

31:30 Speaker 3: None of the quarterbacks could handle on the point. They

31:34 Speaker 3: lost it every single time. I mean, I'm sitting there

31:36 Speaker 3: and I'm watching it. I'm like, I don't want to

31:38 Speaker 3: watch this because this is just bad hockey. This is bad, bad, bad,

31:42 Speaker 3: bad hockey. And the only reason why they didn't get

31:46 Speaker 3: obliterated that these scores were as low as they were.

31:49 Speaker 3: What was it two to one, three to one, and

31:53 Speaker 3: two to one right the Tampa Bay game was I

31:56 Speaker 3: believe that was one three.

31:58 Speaker 1: One, two to one was because of their goaltenders? Correct?

32:02 Speaker 1: They should have rot six sixty one? Yes?

32:06 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, and yes. So people look at I watched,

32:09 Speaker 3: what are you crabbing about? Really, they've only given up

32:12 Speaker 3: what threes or seven goals? Okay, but it could have

32:16 Speaker 3: been worse if you're not getting absolutely outstanding goaltending from

32:22 Speaker 3: swaymen and still have four more goals than the other

32:25 Speaker 3: kias still have to score more goals in the other right, right,

32:28 Speaker 3: it's and I just.

32:30 Speaker 1: Again that Florida game was a snooze best two, by

32:33 Speaker 1: the way, boring. And when have we ever said that

32:36 Speaker 1: a game between the Boston Bruins spent a long time

32:38 Speaker 1: and the Florida Pansers was boring? Right because Florida literally

32:42 Speaker 1: had nothing to play for, but they're playing for pride.

32:45 Speaker 1: There are young guys on that team that are playing

32:47 Speaker 1: for jobs, you know, other players who maybe playing for

32:50 Speaker 1: contracts to stay there. And I get really bothered when

32:55 Speaker 1: I hear people say, well, it's been a really long grind,

32:59 Speaker 1: that played a lot of hart, they've had the toughest schedule.

33:02 Speaker 1: You know what the schedule is, you know what you're

33:04 Speaker 1: up against, you know what your travel schedule is. But

33:08 Speaker 1: you still have a job to do when you get

33:10 Speaker 1: out there on the ice, and your job is to

33:13 Speaker 1: play a full freaking sixteen minutes lucky.

33:17 Speaker 2: Yeah.

33:17 Speaker 3: I mean, having a tough schedule ahead means that you're

33:20 Speaker 3: playing against teams that have high win percentage or points percentage,

33:27 Speaker 3: and that only should be intimidating if your team is

33:33 Speaker 3: actually that much worse, and I don't think that Boston is, however,

33:39 Speaker 3: because if that were the case, they would be blown

33:42 Speaker 3: out of the water.

33:43 Speaker 1: Right you know.

33:44 Speaker 3: I think that's what makes us all the more frustrating.

33:46 Speaker 3: We are fair matchups and thinking about who they've got

33:53 Speaker 3: coming up next. Carolina and Tampa Bay, I think are

33:56 Speaker 3: the toughest of the remaining teams. And it's not a

34:00 Speaker 3: question of talent. It's gonna come down to are the

34:04 Speaker 3: Bruins actually gonna show up and execute their system?

34:08 Speaker 1: And we don't know because we never know which team

34:10 Speaker 1: is going to show up and do the job. In

34:11 Speaker 1: the Tampa game, it went out before on that powers play.

34:15 Speaker 1: You score one or two goals there, and that can

34:17 Speaker 1: potentially change the entire trajectory of the game. Not only that,

34:22 Speaker 1: what makes it even more frustrating is they're not even

34:25 Speaker 1: generating any good offensive momentum because the power plays are

34:30 Speaker 1: not good. So they're not fluid, they're not getting good

34:33 Speaker 1: shots off, they're not making the opposing goldtender's jobs hard.

34:38 Speaker 1: So not a good time of the year for us

34:41 Speaker 1: to be having these questions popping up in our head. Right,

34:46 Speaker 1: So what is right with the Bruins right now. Other

34:49 Speaker 1: than the goaltending, We've seen this before. We've seen them

34:53 Speaker 1: be able to bounce back and show us right, will

34:57 Speaker 1: show you type of attitude or you know, we're not

35:00 Speaker 1: happy with the wave and play. Let's hope that this

35:03 Speaker 1: is the case with these last four remaining games. But

35:07 Speaker 1: what do you see that's right with them?

35:09 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm gonna have to dig deep here because

35:13 Speaker 3: quite frankly, I'm feeling not optimistic in terms of what

35:18 Speaker 3: I have to look forward to on Tuesday against Carolina.

35:22 Speaker 1: I mean, the one thing that I see.

35:25 Speaker 3: Consistently this season as opposed to last year, and this

35:29 Speaker 3: is just an easy comparison to make because last year

35:32 Speaker 3: was just so bad, is their ability to make change

35:38 Speaker 3: from period to period, whether it's just an attitude change

35:42 Speaker 3: or a change in how they come out and play.

35:45 Speaker 3: We did see this in the beginning of the season,

35:47 Speaker 3: but we don't really see any more an entire game

35:52 Speaker 3: with no play. Again, we can see forty minutes sometimes

35:56 Speaker 3: of really good play, and so I think that.

35:59 Speaker 1: Serves them well.

36:01 Speaker 3: I just am worried that they are going to kind

36:04 Speaker 3: of rely on kicking the can down the road and

36:08 Speaker 3: saying well, we've got still another period to go. We

36:11 Speaker 3: can get that goal back, because again the last three

36:14 Speaker 3: games they've lost by like nothing. And so I worry

36:18 Speaker 3: in that sense that they think that they have more

36:21 Speaker 3: time than they actually do, and then they turn it

36:23 Speaker 3: on a little too late. So like they can turn

36:25 Speaker 3: it on, and I think that that's great, That would

36:28 Speaker 3: be all well and good if you had your five

36:31 Speaker 3: on five scoring a little bit more balance or me

36:35 Speaker 3: that you could capitalize on opportunities. And I don't understand

36:40 Speaker 3: would this power play, because this happens at this time

36:43 Speaker 3: of year every year.

36:44 Speaker 2: What is it?

36:45 Speaker 1: Is it the other teams have just figured us out? Maybe?

36:48 Speaker 1: Maybe how do you go from being the third power

36:51 Speaker 1: play in the entire league? No, like the third worst

36:56 Speaker 1: in six weeks? How how I don't know. If it

37:00 Speaker 1: becomes an instance of either the coaching staff or the

37:03 Speaker 1: players becoming stubborn on their units in terms of how

37:07 Speaker 1: they want to maneuver their powerplay, I don't know. And

37:11 Speaker 1: you know, I've heard the theory of, well, you can

37:13 Speaker 1: still have success in the playoffs without a good power

37:16 Speaker 1: play because less penalties get called. Okay, but on those

37:20 Speaker 1: rare occasions that you do get a power play opportunity.

37:23 Speaker 1: Wouldn't you like to know that it might work to

37:26 Speaker 1: put a game away in the playoffs situation?

37:29 Speaker 3: Yeah, That and the fact that the Bruins continue to

37:34 Speaker 3: struggle on the road.

37:35 Speaker 1: I mean, that is going to be the nail in

37:37 Speaker 1: the coffin. Again.

37:38 Speaker 3: We're coming to that time of year where we figure

37:42 Speaker 3: out what the epitaph is going to be on the

37:44 Speaker 3: tombstone of the season. I am wondering if it's going

37:49 Speaker 3: to be couldn't win on the road, because and they're

37:52 Speaker 3: going to be the away team they if they make it,

37:56 Speaker 3: there's still a chance that they won't. I mean, I

37:58 Speaker 3: think that they need to win two games and get

38:01 Speaker 3: at least one point if they're going to be on

38:03 Speaker 3: the road in the playoffs. And I have no faith

38:06 Speaker 3: that they can actually pull it off. I mean, you know,

38:10 Speaker 3: even the way things are going in the Eastern Conference,

38:13 Speaker 3: I think you've got to be close to one hundred

38:15 Speaker 3: points we get I think so they're at ninety five

38:18 Speaker 3: right now.

38:18 Speaker 1: They have to beat one of the four team or

38:21 Speaker 1: two of the four teams when you've got again Carolina,

38:24 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, Columbus and New Jersey and they can't disrespect

38:29 Speaker 1: any of those teams because we've seen what happens. So

38:34 Speaker 1: this begs the question, which was another topic of conversation,

38:38 Speaker 1: with the struggles that the Bruins have clearly been experiencing

38:42 Speaker 1: with five o five scoring and play, you bring, should

38:46 Speaker 1: they consider bringing James Pagan up? Now, they can bring

38:50 Speaker 1: him up, but there are consequences to that, right if

38:53 Speaker 1: they bring him up. Yeah, I still say no.

38:56 Speaker 3: I still say no because at the end of the day,

39:00 Speaker 3: it's my understanding that he's still learning, he still has

39:06 Speaker 3: things to learn and work on at the AHL level again,

39:11 Speaker 3: because it's still quite a transition from D one hockey

39:13 Speaker 3: to AHL and then it's a completely different game from

39:17 Speaker 3: the AHL. So how many times have we talked about basically,

39:20 Speaker 3: career ahlers who are phenomenal in that league can't do

39:25 Speaker 3: anything in the NHL. And I'm just I just don't

39:29 Speaker 3: know that he is the solution to any particular problems.

39:33 Speaker 3: And I don't think it's worth burning the first year

39:36 Speaker 3: of his entry level hard track. Just I don't see

39:40 Speaker 3: the benefit right now to doing that. And you've talked

39:44 Speaker 3: about this before where you've got these guys on this team,

39:48 Speaker 3: they've been working really hard towards this. Most of the

39:51 Speaker 3: team has been there in all of these day one,

39:54 Speaker 3: from day one. It's not just that they have earned

39:58 Speaker 3: their spots at this point, but it's also their problem

40:01 Speaker 3: to fix. Like they've earned the privilege to be there,

40:05 Speaker 3: but it is also their responsibility to make it right.

40:08 Speaker 3: No one else can fix this, no one else should

40:10 Speaker 3: fix this except for them, And I don't have the answers.

40:14 Speaker 3: It's like, how can you make them do anything better?

40:19 Speaker 1: How do you you know what I'm saying? Like, the

40:20 Speaker 1: system clearly works.

40:21 Speaker 3: We have seen this work very very well with the

40:24 Speaker 3: guys that we have, But how do you make them

40:27 Speaker 3: play sixty minutes?

40:29 Speaker 1: How do you make them do that? I don't know,

40:31 Speaker 1: because we've seen these cracks, you know, here and there.

40:34 Speaker 1: They're usually not sustained or prolonged crack, right, Yeah, that

40:38 Speaker 1: we see. I think what's alarming right now is, given

40:42 Speaker 1: where we're at in the season, that this was your

40:45 Speaker 1: opportunity right to bolster yourself even more confidently into playoff positioning.

40:53 Speaker 3: And you know, I know it sounds like we're talking

40:55 Speaker 3: as if they're going to fall out of playoff good.

41:00 Speaker 1: Hopefully they will not, right, but they have been in

41:03 Speaker 1: control of their own destiny the entirety of the season,

41:07 Speaker 1: and when they lose, for the most part, it is

41:11 Speaker 1: because of self inflicted wounds. Yes, that this team suffers,

41:15 Speaker 1: and that's what is so maddening to be seeing those

41:19 Speaker 1: self inflicted wounds at this time of the year. Given

41:23 Speaker 1: the benefit of the doubt, if they can come out

41:25 Speaker 1: and beat the likes of the Canes and the Lightning, Okay,

41:30 Speaker 1: then I might change my viewpoints and my level of concern.

41:34 Speaker 1: I think they can if they play sixty minutes. There's

41:38 Speaker 1: no reason in my mind that they couldn't.

41:40 Speaker 3: I may have had those doubts at the start of

41:42 Speaker 3: the season where I genuinely and I said on the podcast,

41:45 Speaker 3: I don't think this team is talented enough.

41:48 Speaker 1: They've clearly learned how to get the most talent out

41:53 Speaker 1: of themselves through this system. It works for them, but

41:57 Speaker 1: they have to play the whole time. You know, it's

42:00 Speaker 1: not an easy system. We have seen it.

42:02 Speaker 3: It requires a good deal. Are smart right for full

42:08 Speaker 3: sixty minutes? Intense smart exactly minutes. If they're not awake

42:12 Speaker 3: and they're not paying attention, then they kind of rely

42:16 Speaker 3: on old habits. Well, I think to some degree they

42:20 Speaker 3: let opposing teens take them out of their game, and

42:22 Speaker 3: sometimes they can't get themselves back into their game.

42:25 Speaker 1: And I don't know why that afference. I think this

42:28 Speaker 1: is why sometimes we see the transition from a shitty

42:32 Speaker 1: first period or a really good first period to their

42:35 Speaker 1: second period. Wall was and it's like, Okay, well, you

42:38 Speaker 1: guys figured it out in this period. Why the hell

42:41 Speaker 1: could you do this during the other periods before you

42:43 Speaker 1: fell behind in a game?

42:45 Speaker 3: You know?

42:45 Speaker 1: Yea or now either someone's got to help poor Morgan Geeki.

42:49 Speaker 3: I feel so bad for him because watching him in

42:54 Speaker 3: the Philadelphia game, his degree of frustration, the number of

42:58 Speaker 3: times he retaped this, I mean, it's palpable, how frustrated.

43:03 Speaker 1: He is, so desperate to try anything to get yourself going.

43:08 Speaker 1: I feel so bad for him.

43:11 Speaker 3: I have been hesitant to do this because he was

43:14 Speaker 3: on such fire at the start of the season, and

43:17 Speaker 3: I credited him for carrying a lot of the offensive

43:21 Speaker 3: load to start the season.

43:22 Speaker 1: He still is the number one goal scorer, I know,

43:25 Speaker 1: but I do have.

43:26 Speaker 3: I did put him in the penalty box now because

43:29 Speaker 3: nineteen games played since the beginning of March, nineteen games

43:34 Speaker 3: one goal.

43:35 Speaker 1: I mean necess for only eight points. Here's the thing.

43:38 Speaker 1: We literally just talked about this earlier. Give it players

43:41 Speaker 1: taking a break right, because.

43:43 Speaker 3: The mental health side of the game, I think is

43:46 Speaker 3: not considered in the same way that some other kind

43:49 Speaker 3: of injury could.

43:50 Speaker 1: He is so snake bitten he is.

43:52 Speaker 3: I don't think it would be the worst thing for

43:55 Speaker 3: him to have a night off, not as a punishment

43:58 Speaker 3: scratch right. He got that under Montgomery before he kind

44:02 Speaker 3: of finally figured out the game. But sometimes you just

44:05 Speaker 3: have to tell someone like I think you just gotta

44:08 Speaker 3: just like sit one out, just take a step back,

44:12 Speaker 3: because you're too You're two in your head, you're two

44:15 Speaker 3: in it, and you maybe can't see how to fix

44:19 Speaker 3: what's going on because you're just so in it. I

44:21 Speaker 3: don't know, but I've been holding off and holding off.

44:24 Speaker 3: But I'm like, we need him, and he probably knows

44:27 Speaker 3: that better than anybody else. She knows that better than

44:31 Speaker 3: anybody else does. But like fair is fair, You're in

44:34 Speaker 3: the box, Morgan, and I might stay there until you

44:37 Speaker 3: finally PLoP one in. Unfortunately, I also have the five

44:42 Speaker 3: word five scoring and even all scoring quite frank, any

44:45 Speaker 3: and all scoring, Yeah, needs to be more scoring. Yeah,

44:48 Speaker 3: I would agree that discipline situation will stick it in fractions.

44:54 Speaker 3: That kind of lazy play just pisses me off. I

44:56 Speaker 3: don't want to see that. I'm also throwing Mason lower

45:00 Speaker 3: back into the box. I feel a little bit bad

45:03 Speaker 3: for him in the sense that man, when he screws up,

45:06 Speaker 3: it's bad, right, Like everybody makes mistakes, obviously, but it

45:11 Speaker 3: just seems like.

45:12 Speaker 1: His fumbleable noticeable and really egregious.

45:17 Speaker 3: Yeah.

45:17 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, my fear, my fear because I might have

45:22 Speaker 1: PTSD from this too. But when Matt Grizzlik was a

45:25 Speaker 1: regular member of the defensive corps and we would get

45:28 Speaker 1: into the playoffs, Yeah, his side of the ice was

45:32 Speaker 1: targeted on a regular, recurrent basis, And I fear that

45:36 Speaker 1: the same thing will happen when the Ruins and it's

45:38 Speaker 1: going to exploit Mason will I The thought did cross

45:42 Speaker 1: my mind as I was watching the Philadelphia game. I

45:46 Speaker 1: think it was that game. I wouldn't be surprised if

45:49 Speaker 1: they deal him this summer. No, I wouldn't be shocked either.

45:52 Speaker 3: I agree with you, and it sounds like you're giving

45:55 Speaker 3: up on a young player that clearly has for a defenseman,

45:58 Speaker 3: clearly has good defensive skills.

46:01 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're a defenseman. You've got to display the

46:04 Speaker 1: defensive skills on a more consistent, solid basis as well.

46:09 Speaker 1: So is that bear on bear that we want you

46:11 Speaker 1: to be the whole package?

46:13 Speaker 4: No?

46:13 Speaker 3: Sorry, So that's who's in the box for me as well.

46:17 Speaker 3: And I think we're both on the same page in

46:20 Speaker 3: terms of who's getting the stick tabs. It's basically our

46:23 Speaker 3: goaltenders and then the second line.

46:25 Speaker 1: That's it. They're the only ones who are excusing novel

46:28 Speaker 1: zaka Victor Rodardson and Casey Millstatt. Right now, there be

46:32 Speaker 1: goose eggs in these last three games potentially, So I

46:36 Speaker 1: mean r and we had a hattie for crying out.

46:40 Speaker 1: Kudos to them. I do hope they extend him in

46:42 Speaker 1: the off season, but we'll have those conversations when we

46:45 Speaker 1: have more tang. Right now, we just need to get

46:48 Speaker 1: this team into the playoffs, not limping in firing on

46:53 Speaker 1: mostly all cylinders. You don't want to see your team

46:57 Speaker 1: lumping into the playoffs. With that said, I want to

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47:28 Speaker 1: So with that being said, I will chat with you

47:31 Speaker 1: all when I return from my drip. In the meantime,

47:34 Speaker 1: I'll hand it off to my awesome co host who's

47:37 Speaker 1: going to carry the load while I'm gone. She gets

47:40 Speaker 1: the final word, go Be's, go Be's