Boston Bruins on the Brink vs Sabres | Bruins Playoff News | Ep 140

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0:50 Speaker 1: Welcome in everyone to another episode of Ruins Tape to tape.

0:55 Speaker 1: I will be your host today. I am Maria from Watertown.

0:58 Speaker 1: We are recording today's episode on Monday, April twenty seventh,

1:03 Speaker 1: the day after one of the most disgusting playoff losses

1:08 Speaker 1: in recent Ruins history. But before we pile on to

1:13 Speaker 1: that horrible, horrible showing out the Boston Ruins, I want

1:16 Speaker 1: to welcome in my fabulous co host, Caroline with a K.

1:21 Speaker 1: Welcome in, and have you recovered from our rant of yesterday.

1:26 Speaker 1: I'm actually more discussed today because flipping around on social

1:32 Speaker 1: media and seeing a very short one from Storm and

1:37 Speaker 1: a short one from Chucky, and I'm like, I don't

1:40 Speaker 1: care what you.

1:41 Speaker 2: Have to say.

1:41 Speaker 1: There wasn't even any excuse making because they were like

1:45 Speaker 1: DearS in the headlights When asked about it, particularly the coach,

1:49 Speaker 1: I have no answer for that. Well, you better find

1:51 Speaker 1: a fucking answer, marfo or you're all going to be

1:53 Speaker 1: packing your golf bags. Potentially on Tuesday night, We're gonna

1:57 Speaker 1: take a little bit deeper dive into yesterday's game and

2:01 Speaker 1: also this series as a whole, because I have been

2:04 Speaker 1: away for most of these games. I was able to

2:06 Speaker 1: listen to some of the games because I was disjointed

2:10 Speaker 1: with the time change in the area of the world

2:12 Speaker 1: that I was in. Did we underestimate the Buffalo Savers?

2:17 Speaker 1: Are we borderline disrespecting the Buffalo Savers? Were our expectations

2:23 Speaker 1: too high for this Boston Ruins roster going in to

2:27 Speaker 1: this series given the way that games have played out

2:30 Speaker 1: thus far. I also want to talk about the Bruins

2:33 Speaker 1: whole playoff record since twenty nineteen, and also the fact

2:38 Speaker 1: that we are potentially not going to have Victor Arvidson

2:43 Speaker 1: in the lineup because as of our recording, the Ruins

2:47 Speaker 1: have started their regular practice and Arvidson is not on

2:51 Speaker 1: the ice for practice, and in looking at the replay

2:55 Speaker 1: of the hit that he took that sent him down

2:57 Speaker 1: to the tunnel. He looked a little bit sunned and

3:01 Speaker 1: out of sorts, and now I'm beginning to wonder if

3:04 Speaker 1: we're looking at a potential percussion isshue. It doesn't appear

3:08 Speaker 1: that Marco had any type of update. And also another

3:13 Speaker 1: absentee player. This is supposted by our friend of the pod,

3:17 Speaker 1: Bridget Prue. Nikita'sadora is also absent from Brohan's practice today. Interesting,

3:24 Speaker 1: So I do recall that Nikita, I can't remember if

3:28 Speaker 1: it was game three, game two, he disappeared for a

3:32 Speaker 1: little bit down to the tunnel at one point in time.

3:35 Speaker 1: So I'm wondering if there's something that is nagging, creeping

3:41 Speaker 1: up or bothering him, because he too hasn't he hasn't

3:46 Speaker 1: exuded his full authority, so to speak, in this series

3:50 Speaker 1: as well. Well, we'll get to all of that as

3:54 Speaker 1: it relates to the Western Bruins that we will take

3:57 Speaker 1: our spin around the rink because there are other playoff

4:00 Speaker 1: series that have now concluded and others that may end

4:05 Speaker 1: up concluding in the very near future. So we had

4:08 Speaker 1: in the West, we had the Colorado Avalanche sweep Bank

4:12 Speaker 1: La Kings yesterday, bittersweet ending for Anse Copetar, who has

4:18 Speaker 1: had an illustrious career in the league. So I'm sure

4:22 Speaker 1: the LA Kings did their best to try and extend

4:26 Speaker 1: that series, but Colorado was a little bit more than

4:29 Speaker 1: they could handle. Yeah, and I find it interesting that

4:33 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's really like a criticism, but

4:36 Speaker 1: people have said, how come it was so close? And

4:39 Speaker 1: why did Colorado not totally obliterate them? At the end

4:42 Speaker 1: of the day, Colorado doesn't want to spend all the

4:46 Speaker 1: gas in the tank on a first round team, so

4:50 Speaker 1: why would you expect them to blast them out of

4:53 Speaker 1: the water. They clearly were the better team in spite

4:58 Speaker 1: of the best efforts that LA could throw out there.

5:02 Speaker 1: It almost felt like Colorado was just reserving their energy

5:07 Speaker 1: and their effort to be just good enough because they

5:11 Speaker 1: know it's a marathon, it's not a sprint, So what's

5:15 Speaker 1: the point in potentially opening up yourself to injury or exhaustion.

5:22 Speaker 1: So I find those kind of criticisms of Colorado a

5:26 Speaker 1: little bit silly. I hear what you're saying, but my

5:30 Speaker 1: opinion is that the Stanley Cup playoffs is a totally

5:34 Speaker 1: different dynamic and mindset than the regular season, and it

5:38 Speaker 1: seems that players and teams find another gear, and I

5:43 Speaker 1: think that's why in most instances, the games themselves are

5:48 Speaker 1: relatively closer than what you might be saying in the

5:52 Speaker 1: regular season. To the ABS credit, even if they were

5:56 Speaker 1: not clicked into high gear, they bought themselves a little

6:00 Speaker 1: that of rest for they have to get to the

6:03 Speaker 1: next round. So kudos to them for giving themselves a

6:07 Speaker 1: little bit of a breather so that they can potentially

6:10 Speaker 1: survive the marathon that.

6:12 Speaker 2: Is the Stanley Cup playoffs.

6:13 Speaker 1: And just looking at my bracket too, realizing that they're

6:18 Speaker 1: going to have to play the winners of Dallas Minnesota,

6:23 Speaker 1: and whoever comes out from that series, I think is

6:27 Speaker 1: going to be a much tougher competition. Again, no disrespect

6:32 Speaker 1: to LA they kept up. It was competitive. It was

6:35 Speaker 1: not a blowout.

6:36 Speaker 2: No, they were not blowout games.

6:38 Speaker 1: You're right. No, whoever it is that Colorado plays next,

6:40 Speaker 1: it's going to be a much more.

6:43 Speaker 2: Difficult series to play against, definitely.

6:46 Speaker 1: And continuing in the West, I find this shocking. The

6:50 Speaker 1: Anaheim Ducks are up three games to one on the

6:53 Speaker 1: Edmonton Oilers. Now, the game on Sunday night went into

6:57 Speaker 1: overtime and it was a bit of our controversial goal

7:02 Speaker 1: that the Ducks scored only a couple of minutes into overtime.

7:06 Speaker 1: It took a long time to review this goal. The

7:10 Speaker 1: original call was a good goal. How the officials called

7:15 Speaker 1: it a good goal when you couldn't see the entirety

7:18 Speaker 1: of the pop crossing for redline because Jari Skate was there,

7:24 Speaker 1: and so right after an extensive review, they deemed it

7:28 Speaker 1: to be a good goal. And Anaheim is now up

7:32 Speaker 1: three games to one. But I still find that shocking.

7:37 Speaker 1: I don't know how you feel, but I guess I'm not.

7:41 Speaker 1: I'm let me put it this way. The part that

7:43 Speaker 1: I find surprising is the fact that it's Anaheim. I'm

7:47 Speaker 1: not surprised that Edmonton is finding themselves in this kind

7:53 Speaker 1: of situation because a couple of things. One, this is

7:57 Speaker 1: a team that I think overly relies on two players

8:04 Speaker 1: to make things happen. And I have said for years

8:11 Speaker 1: hockey is one of those sports where you cannot win

8:16 Speaker 1: a championship on the back of one player two players.

8:20 Speaker 2: You can't. It is like not really possible.

8:23 Speaker 1: You have to have deep play, like deep lines and

8:27 Speaker 1: contributions from everyone, and incredible goaltending and you're seeing again

8:34 Speaker 1: this situation where it's coming back down to McDavid and

8:40 Speaker 1: dry Cidle, maybe Zach Hyman, but you also have Tristiannari. Sorry,

8:46 Speaker 1: I'm rarely ever going to go after a goaltender because,

8:51 Speaker 1: like we talked about in our emergency pod, when you

8:54 Speaker 1: are losing games six to one, that is rarely entirely

9:00 Speaker 1: fault of the goaltender. Okay, you're losing six to one,

9:03 Speaker 1: what the heck are the other guys doing in front

9:05 Speaker 1: of them? But two things can be true at the

9:09 Speaker 1: same time. And I say this also about Stuart Skinner

9:12 Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh, and I said this the last game that

9:16 Speaker 1: he played. It's not necessarily his fault that they're losing

9:20 Speaker 1: if the players in front of them are not getting

9:23 Speaker 1: the job done. However, Harry and Skinner are not going

9:29 Speaker 1: to steal games for you.

9:31 Speaker 2: They're just not.

9:32 Speaker 1: They're not Wedgwood, they're not Swaymen, they're not Basilevski, they're

9:37 Speaker 1: not Bobrovski.

9:38 Speaker 2: We saw.

9:39 Speaker 1: I can't remember now because the three years in a

9:41 Speaker 1: row that the Panthers have been to the finals, but

9:45 Speaker 1: one of those years the Florida players were basically losing

9:50 Speaker 1: the series and it was Bobrovski who kept them in

9:54 Speaker 1: it and got them out of that series.

9:56 Speaker 2: Sorry, Tristan, it's not you.

9:59 Speaker 1: And again the Oilers have played deep two years in

10:03 Speaker 1: a row.

10:04 Speaker 2: Look at what happened with Florida.

10:05 Speaker 1: They fell apart, not because they were bad, but because

10:09 Speaker 1: they physically had to recover from three straight Stanley Cup runs.

10:13 Speaker 1: Edmonton has gone deep two years in a row. It

10:16 Speaker 1: just becomes physically challenging in this day and age to

10:20 Speaker 1: go far. I can't believe that Anaheim is the beneficiary

10:24 Speaker 1: of whatever the heck is happening over there, But here

10:27 Speaker 1: we are. They had to have known that it was

10:30 Speaker 1: still a risk putting their eggs in the Jari basket, right.

10:34 Speaker 1: They didn't make a change, Maria, they know, I know,

10:38 Speaker 1: and you know what, I don't feel bad for them anymore.

10:40 Speaker 1: I'm actually kind of sick and tired of fearing about it.

10:43 Speaker 1: To be perfectly honest with you, If you're not at

10:46 Speaker 1: this point, I think even an unseasoned hockey fan understands

10:51 Speaker 1: that to some degree, you need to build your team

10:55 Speaker 1: from the back end forward. If you don't have good gold,

11:00 Speaker 1: then how far do you think you're going to get

11:03 Speaker 1: you can have as many Connor McDavid as you want,

11:06 Speaker 1: but it's you're not getting good goaltending or you don't

11:10 Speaker 1: have a good defensive structure, then you're not going to

11:14 Speaker 1: get very far. That's just my opinion. We'll see what

11:18 Speaker 1: happens and see if Anahearm can block what like glean

11:22 Speaker 1: might be a very big upset. Honestly, you know what

11:26 Speaker 1: would be hilarious. And this is just a sidebar because

11:29 Speaker 1: I thought this conversation has been coming up again in

11:32 Speaker 1: the social seeds that I see, because it's not only

11:35 Speaker 1: that time of year playoffs people complaining about the structure

11:39 Speaker 1: of the playoffs, which we have voiced our opinions on,

11:41 Speaker 1: but then also a lot of newer hockey fans saying,

11:44 Speaker 1: wait a minute. You're telling me that the two teams

11:49 Speaker 1: that play against each other in the Stanley Cup aren't

11:51 Speaker 1: necessarily the two best teams. And that's a fact because

11:55 Speaker 1: think about it this way. But you mean to tell

11:58 Speaker 1: me that the next round could be Utah versus Anaheim, Okay,

12:04 Speaker 1: Colorado versus Dallas, Yes, and that the winner of those two,

12:10 Speaker 1: like the Western Conference, would be between some behemoth Dallas, Minnesota,

12:16 Speaker 1: Colorado and newby Green to playoffs Anaheim and Utah. Like

12:24 Speaker 1: good for Anaheim and Utah. Don't get me wrong, would

12:27 Speaker 1: call that parody? Someone call that parody and give credit

12:31 Speaker 1: to parody. I know. I'm just saying that's the buzzword

12:35 Speaker 1: that is being used. That's just crazy to think about.

12:39 Speaker 1: And again in the West, they have I think a

12:42 Speaker 1: significantly bigger issue with that. We've seen this many years

12:48 Speaker 1: in a row now that the teams that are not

12:51 Speaker 1: making it to the conference final, like it's absolutely insane

12:54 Speaker 1: that they're not there because they get knocked out earlier around.

12:58 Speaker 2: I don't see that.

13:00 Speaker 1: Being an issue in the East, but I think that's

13:04 Speaker 1: where your parody is. Where it's like every single round,

13:07 Speaker 1: those teams are genuinely killing it. I mean, I'm trying

13:12 Speaker 1: to say this without being insulting, but like, no, I

13:14 Speaker 1: understand the promise of what you're saying. That's out being

13:17 Speaker 1: disrespectful to those teams. Listen, that Pacific Division was hot garbage.

13:23 Speaker 1: It was not in line with the level of play

13:27 Speaker 1: that we saw in the other divisions this season. So

13:32 Speaker 1: the next series in the West is the Dallas Yards

13:34 Speaker 1: and Minnesota Wild and those teams are tied at two

13:38 Speaker 1: games apiece and I have no idea who is going

13:42 Speaker 1: to come out in that series, but that has the

13:44 Speaker 1: potential to go six to seven games. Yeah, very well matched.

13:48 Speaker 1: Colorado could be getting the nice long rest there, which

13:53 Speaker 1: is pros and cons to that. I think sometimes when

13:56 Speaker 1: a team sits around for too long a period of

13:58 Speaker 1: time and all they're able to do is practice against

14:01 Speaker 1: each other, I don't think that helps keep you sharp

14:05 Speaker 1: and focus. And then to finish up in the West,

14:07 Speaker 1: we have Utah Mammots and Vegas Bolden Knights, with Utah

14:12 Speaker 1: being up to games to one at this point. But

14:15 Speaker 1: I am so disinterested in this series, like just care

14:19 Speaker 1: less of us, And even though my guy John Tortorella

14:22 Speaker 1: is behind the bench for Vegas, I really am not like, yeah,

14:25 Speaker 1: I'm not dying to.

14:26 Speaker 2: Watch one of these games.

14:28 Speaker 1: No, by no means, but I am thrilled that Utah

14:32 Speaker 1: is doing well and I want to see them move on.

14:34 Speaker 2: They're my underdog.

14:35 Speaker 1: Thanks to Anna forgetting me on that wagon, because I

14:40 Speaker 1: love to see that success story because they are the

14:44 Speaker 1: buffalo of the West in the sense that ownership issues

14:49 Speaker 1: management issues really prevented them from having a genuine opportunity,

14:53 Speaker 1: and the league did them a disservice too. Yeah, and

14:56 Speaker 1: you want to see a quote unquote new young franchise

15:01 Speaker 1: be successful in a new place because that's just good

15:04 Speaker 1: for the game.

15:05 Speaker 2: And also screw Vegas. Yeah, I hear you. Okay.

15:09 Speaker 1: So our roundup in the East is Carolina swept the

15:14 Speaker 1: Ottawa Senators over the weekend. Tim Stutzel is such an

15:18 Speaker 1: a hole. He is just such an a hole, right

15:22 Speaker 1: with all of the embellishment. I'm glad they're gone.

15:25 Speaker 2: I'm glad.

15:26 Speaker 1: I feel bad to Lena's because he played his assaf

15:30 Speaker 1: he was their best player. Rady could Chook was almost

15:33 Speaker 1: a no show in this series. Yeah he was. Yeah,

15:37 Speaker 1: he was a waste of space. We're waiting for Carolina

15:39 Speaker 1: to just get to the Eastern Conference finals so they

15:42 Speaker 1: can choke yet again. But watching Carolina, we talked all

15:46 Speaker 1: season in the East about how it never really seemed

15:49 Speaker 1: like somebody took charge and took the lead in the conference, like.

15:55 Speaker 2: Colorado head out in West.

15:57 Speaker 1: But watching Carolina, they have sent a message this playoffs

16:03 Speaker 1: that they are serious. They are sticking with their game plan,

16:10 Speaker 1: coming in peppering the opponents with a gazillion shots, and

16:14 Speaker 1: they are good this year. They've always been good, but

16:17 Speaker 1: I feel like they are a little bit next level.

16:20 Speaker 1: And Freddy Anderson has been lights out. His kryptonite is

16:24 Speaker 1: getting hurt. He always has been an excellent goalpender. He's

16:28 Speaker 1: just prone to a variety of sometimes weird injuries. Just

16:33 Speaker 1: from what I've seen, I'm super impressed and I think

16:36 Speaker 1: that they will be a very scary opponent to play against. Well,

16:41 Speaker 1: we'll see who they end up playing. Because Tampa and

16:45 Speaker 1: the Nadians are tied at two games apiece, this is

16:49 Speaker 1: another series that may go the distance as well, and

16:53 Speaker 1: whoever gets them, I don't know how much these guys

16:56 Speaker 1: either team will have lucked in the tank. That one's

16:59 Speaker 1: actually been a little bit surprising in the sense that

17:02 Speaker 1: I feel like Tampa Bay is underperforming and Montreal is overperforming,

17:08 Speaker 1: and they've met in the middle, and I don't know

17:12 Speaker 1: who's going to come out on top, but I wouldn't

17:14 Speaker 1: be surprised if it's Montreal. This is a young team

17:17 Speaker 1: that is hungry, They are fierce. They've got some phenomenal goaltending.

17:22 Speaker 1: If the Habs don't figure out how to stop Brandon Hagel,

17:25 Speaker 1: they're going to be in one. He has just been

17:28 Speaker 1: a one man wrecking machine for the Tampa Bay Lightning.

17:32 Speaker 1: Their only weakness I think is shockingly Vassilevsky. He's not

17:39 Speaker 1: really where he's been in the past, especially in past playoffs.

17:44 Speaker 2: I think he's beatable.

17:45 Speaker 1: He's getting a little long in the tooth by Goltemper standards.

17:49 Speaker 1: He peeked young, he pieced early right, and he's played

17:53 Speaker 1: a lot of hockey, and he has seen a lot

17:55 Speaker 1: of rubber. So it stands to reason that that could

17:59 Speaker 1: cut up to you at some point in time. But

18:02 Speaker 1: that's been that's been a fun series to keep keep

18:06 Speaker 1: your eyes on. It's been good, entertaining, floppy. The other

18:10 Speaker 1: series that could end up finishing tonight is the Penguins

18:15 Speaker 1: and the Flyers. They are up three games to one

18:18 Speaker 1: right now and they play tonight in Pittsburgh. Yeah, I

18:23 Speaker 1: think that's been a highly entertaining series. Those teams do

18:27 Speaker 1: not like each other at all. It was literally no

18:31 Speaker 1: room left. I forget what game. It was no room

18:34 Speaker 1: left in my other penalty box. And I think they

18:37 Speaker 1: call Biscinette referred to it as like the Flyers playing

18:41 Speaker 1: stumpbag hockey, and I don't think he meant it. Meant

18:44 Speaker 1: it in a detrimental way, but when you it reminded

18:47 Speaker 1: me of old school flyers for bullies. Yeah. Yeah, I

18:52 Speaker 1: certainly didn't expect Pittsburgh to lay such an egg the

18:57 Speaker 1: first two games.

18:58 Speaker 2: I didn't think that they were going.

19:00 Speaker 1: To get swept, and it was possibility, But of the

19:03 Speaker 1: three that where he were on sweepwatch, they were the

19:06 Speaker 1: ones that I thought, there's no way that Sidney Crosby

19:09 Speaker 1: is going to allow that to happen. And they played

19:12 Speaker 1: a completely different game. They were much more disciplined, and

19:17 Speaker 1: they had a different goaltender, which I think made a

19:20 Speaker 1: big difference. He was much better than Stuart Skinner, unfortunately

19:25 Speaker 1: for Skinner, so we're probably going to see him again tonight.

19:28 Speaker 1: I got the sense that the nerves and excitement for

19:31 Speaker 1: this really young Philadelphia team also got to them thinking that, oh, look,

19:37 Speaker 1: we might be on the verge here and nobody thought

19:39 Speaker 1: we were going to get in, and we snuck in

19:40 Speaker 1: at the last minute, literally in overtime. But four wins

19:43 Speaker 1: in a row for a team as old as Pittsburgh,

19:46 Speaker 1: I don't know.

19:46 Speaker 2: I've got it.

19:47 Speaker 1: Yeah, they might want to ask they might win tonight.

19:51 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if they take this game, but

19:54 Speaker 1: I think it's going to be Philadelphia. I could be

19:56 Speaker 1: eating my words in a week, but I just think

19:58 Speaker 1: they're too far behind the eight ball Rick talk. It

20:02 Speaker 1: is a good and agel coach. He'll have his flyers

20:06 Speaker 1: ready to go and understanding the significance. To me, it's

20:11 Speaker 1: a far greater task and a more rewarding task finish

20:16 Speaker 1: off a team on their home ice. It's awesome to

20:19 Speaker 1: do it in your own building, but to me, it's

20:22 Speaker 1: a better testiment to you as a team to finish

20:26 Speaker 1: off your opponent in their own building. That's another coach,

20:31 Speaker 1: you know what we were talking about yesterday. That's another

20:33 Speaker 1: coach who's extremely experienced up against a newer coach, a

20:38 Speaker 1: younger coach, younger coach. Ye, the younger coach has more veterans.

20:44 Speaker 1: The veteran coach has kids. And I think there's something there.

20:49 Speaker 1: There's something to be said about that kind of dynamic

20:52 Speaker 1: that can you teach an old dog new tricks? I

20:54 Speaker 1: don't know, And that's what I think is happening with Pittsburgh.

20:59 Speaker 1: I mean, yes, they've got some young kids, but it's

21:01 Speaker 1: not the same energy that you see out on the

21:05 Speaker 1: ice with those flyers, So they might be playing Carolina,

21:08 Speaker 1: know that'd be my guest. Yeah, we'll have all of

21:11 Speaker 1: those updates for our next bog. So now we get

21:15 Speaker 1: to our team and the predicament that the Bruins find

21:19 Speaker 1: themselves in, which is they are now down three to

21:23 Speaker 1: one to the Buffalo Sabers, and even after our rant

21:27 Speaker 1: of yesterday, we will both significantly hissedo. As I'm sure

21:32 Speaker 1: many people in that building were many people who gave

21:36 Speaker 1: up a beautiful Sunday afternoon in Boston to sit inside

21:39 Speaker 1: and watch this hockey game to the degree that they

21:42 Speaker 1: could tolerate it. That first period, as I was thinking

21:45 Speaker 1: about it last night, reminded me so much of the

21:49 Speaker 1: first period of Game seven of the Stanley Cup Finals

21:54 Speaker 1: against the Saint Louis Blooms, where you know, the Bruins

21:57 Speaker 1: lost the game in the first period and there was

22:01 Speaker 1: no way in hell that they had any chance of

22:05 Speaker 1: coming back to win that game because of the way

22:08 Speaker 1: they started. So I did a little checking, and I

22:12 Speaker 1: wanted to see what the Bruins won't playoff record has

22:16 Speaker 1: been since that period of time. Now I understand They've

22:20 Speaker 1: been a great home team all season long. But it's

22:25 Speaker 1: a cliche, but the Stanley Cup Finals are different. Everyone

22:29 Speaker 1: starts with the clean slate, and the Bruins record at

22:33 Speaker 1: home in the playoffs since twenty eighteen and nineteen is

22:37 Speaker 1: a dismal eighteen wins and twenty three losses on a whole.

22:42 Speaker 2: Nine sounds like we've.

22:43 Speaker 1: Got to hire an Etsy witch here, Maria stage the

22:46 Speaker 1: plays now in this instance, in this series, I understand

22:50 Speaker 1: they don't have fume ice advantage, which is all the

22:54 Speaker 1: more degree of importance that you maintain, serve and you win.

23:00 Speaker 1: We can rehash everything we talked about yesterday. You know

23:03 Speaker 1: what I wanted to get your thoughts on at the

23:06 Speaker 1: introduction of this pod. Did we underestimate Are we underestimating

23:11 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Sabers? Were our expectations too high with this

23:15 Speaker 1: buster rule and til and can they regroup and try

23:19 Speaker 1: to make a series of this? So to answer your

23:22 Speaker 1: first question, I don't think that we underestimated Buffalo. I

23:28 Speaker 1: think that is not a good excuse for any NHL

23:33 Speaker 1: team going into the playoffs because you have an entire

23:38 Speaker 1: staff of people whose job it is to prepare the

23:43 Speaker 1: team for against the opponent that they are playing. And

23:47 Speaker 1: one of the things that makes playoff hockey different from

23:51 Speaker 1: the regular season is the fact that you are playing

23:55 Speaker 1: the same team at least four times in a row. Now, well,

24:00 Speaker 1: the Bruins are playing a divisional rival, so yes, they

24:03 Speaker 1: played them four times this year. They played them though

24:06 Speaker 1: at four very different points in the Sabers season, three

24:12 Speaker 1: of which were really before their GM change and the

24:19 Speaker 1: breath of fresh air that they received. It was still

24:22 Speaker 1: early in the season, but Boston played Buffalo like three

24:25 Speaker 1: times pretty quickly, and then they played them one time

24:28 Speaker 1: much later. And in that particular game, Boston was rolling

24:32 Speaker 1: with some wins and Buffalo was going through a little

24:35 Speaker 1: bit of a rough patch.

24:36 Speaker 2: So Boston got the win.

24:38 Speaker 1: But I don't think any team should ever say that

24:43 Speaker 1: they underestimated their opponent, because you have scouts, you have

24:48 Speaker 1: coaching staff, You're watching video, You're learning how these teams play.

24:52 Speaker 1: You're trying to figure out these are their plays, this

24:55 Speaker 1: is how they behave, this is how you get under

24:57 Speaker 1: their skin. You do the homework so you're prepared to

25:01 Speaker 1: play a good game, and then you make adjustments in game.

25:04 Speaker 1: So I think what's happened in that regard is not

25:08 Speaker 1: that they have underestimated Buffalo. Either they didn't prepare, they

25:13 Speaker 1: didn't do their homework, or as I have been saying

25:17 Speaker 1: like the last week, their in game decision making is

25:21 Speaker 1: absolutely atrocious. Atrocious. If Lindy Ruff has some tricks up

25:26 Speaker 1: his sleeve, good for him. Every NHL team is going

25:30 Speaker 1: to have little tricks up their sleeves, things that they

25:32 Speaker 1: might not debut until the playoffs, right because they're trying

25:35 Speaker 1: to be sneaky and strategic. But then it behooves the

25:39 Speaker 1: Boston Bruins to continue to do the work, continue to

25:43 Speaker 1: do the homework, continue to watch the video, continue to

25:46 Speaker 1: adjust their game in game if the other team makes changes,

25:51 Speaker 1: and I think that's been shockingly bad, especially on home lines.

25:55 Speaker 1: Look at the last change. I think what has happened

25:58 Speaker 1: with the Boston Bruins is threefold. One, we've known all

26:03 Speaker 1: season that this is what we've been working with, because

26:08 Speaker 1: how many times have we seen them go through a

26:11 Speaker 1: stretch where it's like they've fallen and bumped their heads

26:15 Speaker 1: and they don't remember how to play hockey, multiple stretches,

26:19 Speaker 1: at least three really bad ones. Secondly, I think this

26:24 Speaker 1: is a massive failing from the coaching staff the administrative

26:29 Speaker 1: side of things. Now, that does not excuse the players

26:33 Speaker 1: from any responsibility of said homework and decision making in game,

26:38 Speaker 1: because obviously, like Hampus, what has been wrong with you

26:42 Speaker 1: all season? You can't make a good decision to save

26:44 Speaker 1: your life. That's nothing that a coach can necessarily fix.

26:48 Speaker 1: That's not something that's as fixable as calling a time

26:52 Speaker 1: out an appropriate time during a game when things are

26:54 Speaker 1: getting out of hand and your team is just standing there.

26:57 Speaker 1: But the third thing is this is the culmination of

27:02 Speaker 1: every bad habit, everything that Boston has been doing wrong

27:09 Speaker 1: since twenty nineteen. And this is where I was like, oh,

27:12 Speaker 1: we got to get the Etsy Witch to clear out

27:14 Speaker 1: this bad juju, because it almost seems like when they

27:17 Speaker 1: are faced with adversity, these bad habits creep in and

27:21 Speaker 1: it doesn't really seem to matter who the personnel is

27:25 Speaker 1: because we've obviously, for the most part, cleared house from

27:29 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. So where the heck are these bad habits

27:32 Speaker 1: coming from? How is it possible that since twenty nineteen

27:36 Speaker 1: we've had three fourish coaches who want to count last

27:41 Speaker 1: year having to and the power play ceases to exist

27:44 Speaker 1: at a certain point, the actions that are being taken

27:47 Speaker 1: on the ice keep happening, the players looking lost. These

27:52 Speaker 1: are things that I have been seeing just creep in

27:56 Speaker 1: when things start to go wrong, losing the mental battle,

28:00 Speaker 1: not having the mental fortitude to power through. How is

28:03 Speaker 1: that sticking around when you have an almost entirely new

28:07 Speaker 1: team and they don't seem to have an answer to

28:11 Speaker 1: be able to slow down Buffalo's wor check. And we've

28:15 Speaker 1: talked about this in the past, where the defensive structure

28:19 Speaker 1: that's a Brewings want to play requires everyone everyone to

28:24 Speaker 1: be skating and backchecking forwards, defenseman okay, And when that

28:30 Speaker 1: doesn't happen, it is a recipe for disaster because then

28:35 Speaker 1: the system starts to break down and other guys feel

28:40 Speaker 1: like they need to do a little bit more, and

28:43 Speaker 1: it is a domino effect. Not only that we're not

28:47 Speaker 1: even establishing our own for check to try and set

28:52 Speaker 1: up some sustained offensive ozone pressure in Buffalo's end in

28:58 Speaker 1: four games, pretty much the only players who are plus

29:03 Speaker 1: players in the four games against the Buffalo Sabers are

29:06 Speaker 1: Andrew Pete, John Corally, and Mark Casteller. Everyone else is

29:11 Speaker 1: a minus Pablzaka minus five, Pastronoch minus five, h lind

29:16 Speaker 1: Home minus five. War I didn't even play yesterday, but

29:19 Speaker 1: it's still a minus four Middle stat minus four, Macaboy

29:23 Speaker 1: minus four. It goes on and on. Everyone is in

29:28 Speaker 1: pretty much negative numbers because not only aren't they scoring anything,

29:35 Speaker 1: but they're on the ice when Buffalo is kicking your

29:38 Speaker 1: ass putting goals in the net. So I don't know

29:42 Speaker 1: how you change that at this point because your roster

29:46 Speaker 1: is what it is. You have can move a die

29:49 Speaker 1: or two in and out or up and down, but

29:51 Speaker 1: it's not helping David Pasternak. Yeah, it's not helping Pabozaka,

29:57 Speaker 1: it's not helping Elias lind Home. It's I don't see

30:01 Speaker 1: how it changes.

30:03 Speaker 2: For the next game.

30:05 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, because to your point from our

30:09 Speaker 1: emergency pod, then and now you're going back to Buffalo

30:13 Speaker 1: where Lindy Ruff's going to get whatever matchup you want. Yeah. Yeah.

30:17 Speaker 1: After Boston has these bad games, they have a tendency

30:22 Speaker 1: to come back the next game and do well. I

30:25 Speaker 1: know that there is at least one instance this season

30:29 Speaker 1: where that was the expectation and it didn't happen. But

30:32 Speaker 1: also if you recall early in the season when they

30:35 Speaker 1: were on that ten game just nightmare tour of the West.

30:40 Speaker 1: We kept saying, Okay, surely the next game is going

30:43 Speaker 1: to be better, because when they've had a bad game,

30:46 Speaker 1: they're better the next day. But they had to hit

30:49 Speaker 1: rock bottom to come back, and they were playing different

30:52 Speaker 1: teams each night every time that happened, and that is

30:58 Speaker 1: a variable.

31:00 Speaker 2: It does not exist in this particular equation.

31:03 Speaker 1: Right now, they know what you're doing, right, they have

31:07 Speaker 1: figured out your game plan, and they have figured out

31:10 Speaker 1: a workaround for it, which we've seen many other teams

31:13 Speaker 1: figure out, which is check the frigging hell out of

31:18 Speaker 1: everybody that's out on that ice, because then you're going

31:22 Speaker 1: to get what we see, which is the scrambling around,

31:25 Speaker 1: the panic with not making a smart play on the top,

31:30 Speaker 1: and it's a total breakdown. And I don't know how

31:35 Speaker 1: hunger that because, as I said before, your roster is

31:38 Speaker 1: what it is now. It's a roster that has served

31:41 Speaker 1: you well during the regular season. We've got you into

31:45 Speaker 1: the playoffs, we see how difficult this team can be

31:49 Speaker 1: to play against when everybody is on board and doing

31:54 Speaker 1: what is ass of them and doing the job at hand. Yeah,

31:58 Speaker 1: but it seems like now we are the ones being

32:02 Speaker 1: the Boston Bruins being worn down. Yeah, and I like

32:06 Speaker 1: Storm's system. I think it's a good system. It's different

32:11 Speaker 1: is one two to two defensive structure. I don't think

32:15 Speaker 1: that the answer is well, throw that out the window

32:20 Speaker 1: for next fall and try something what easier. I don't

32:24 Speaker 1: think that's the answer.

32:26 Speaker 2: I don't know. Is it a roster.

32:27 Speaker 1: Issue where there are guys who are just not bought

32:31 Speaker 1: into it. I don't understand how and why these crazy

32:36 Speaker 1: bad habits are creeping in when it's not the same

32:41 Speaker 1: team anymore. It's the hesitation to actually shoot and passing

32:46 Speaker 1: that has been a problem for at least three years.

32:49 Speaker 1: At least three years. It's the lack of urgency multiple

32:54 Speaker 1: years issue from time to time, depending on the season.

32:58 Speaker 1: All Right, the epitaph would read all they could didn't

33:00 Speaker 1: clear it or they couldn't enter the zone. But these

33:03 Speaker 1: little things add up and you end up with a game.

33:08 Speaker 1: That is what was out there yesterday for the people

33:12 Speaker 1: on social media who were dumping their truckload of shit

33:16 Speaker 1: on Jeremy Swayman, and they'll see it again. I'm run

33:18 Speaker 1: Swayman bandgirl. I still think he has things to prove

33:23 Speaker 1: to me. However, what happened, what is happening in this

33:27 Speaker 1: series is not at the feet of Jeremy Swayman. Now

33:31 Speaker 1: are the golds during the series that you say, yeah,

33:34 Speaker 1: you know what, would you like to have one or

33:36 Speaker 1: two of those backs yesterday in that first period? If

33:40 Speaker 1: I was Jeremy Swayman, I would have freaking pulled myself

33:42 Speaker 1: out of the game. And then when I skated over

33:45 Speaker 1: to the bench, okay, I would have given my teammates

33:49 Speaker 1: a lot more shit than he gave them when he

33:51 Speaker 1: skated off, right, because they deserved to get an earful

33:55 Speaker 1: from their goalie. O. For the people who were dumping

33:58 Speaker 1: this on Shor, you're never going to win a Cup

34:00 Speaker 1: with Swaymen, you all don't know what in hell you're

34:05 Speaker 1: talking about. You just jump on the bend wagon with

34:09 Speaker 1: the I hate all the elite goalies in Boston bride right.

34:13 Speaker 1: That's lazy, it's lazy, it's uninformed, and you clearly don't

34:20 Speaker 1: understand the game in front of you if you think

34:24 Speaker 1: those four goals were his fault, because here's these are

34:27 Speaker 1: the four goals. First goal, McAvoy could not pass to

34:31 Speaker 1: Jonathan asbro Asparo couldn't catch the pass. Mitton grabs the

34:36 Speaker 1: puck for whatever reason, gets forced back into the defensive

34:40 Speaker 1: zone and he gives up the puck under pressure, and

34:43 Speaker 1: so it turned into a two on one rush and

34:47 Speaker 1: Krebs slams it in. Okay, you want to say, well,

34:49 Speaker 1: but Jeremy should have stopped it. Jeremy should have never

34:52 Speaker 1: seen that puck correct That puck should have been out

34:55 Speaker 1: of the fricking zone. That was a failure of the

34:58 Speaker 1: skaters in front of him. Second goal, the classic Boston

35:02 Speaker 1: Bruins too many men penalty because of course, of course

35:07 Speaker 1: it's many men. Hampus Lynnholm sends the puck up into

35:11 Speaker 1: the air to the middle of the ice, in the

35:13 Speaker 1: middle of the penalty, Kill didn't put enough mustard on it,

35:17 Speaker 1: and it ended up getting intercepted by boeen Byram and

35:21 Speaker 1: Josh Dong gets it into the net. Maybe if Hampis

35:25 Speaker 1: wasn't being lazy about how he sent the puck out,

35:29 Speaker 1: if he took the puck out, if he actually looked

35:31 Speaker 1: around and made a better decision, maybe we don't know,

35:35 Speaker 1: it wouldn't have ended up back where it came from.

35:37 Speaker 1: And what have we been calling these all season long?

35:39 Speaker 1: What have we been calling these issues? Inflicted wounds? Self

35:45 Speaker 1: flicted wounds? Yep, Jordan Harris. I mean I feel for him,

35:49 Speaker 1: I like him very much, but he didn't get on

35:52 Speaker 1: a playing time. But still he gives up the puck,

35:55 Speaker 1: he was not strong enough on the puck while trying

35:59 Speaker 1: to get out, and Zach Benson grabs the puck and

36:03 Speaker 1: does a close range backhander on net. He got the

36:06 Speaker 1: pad on the shot, but then rebound. So if your

36:10 Speaker 1: skater had been stronger on the puck, had better puck possession,

36:14 Speaker 1: swim and would have had to face that rebound. And

36:16 Speaker 1: then Casey Medlsett just turned it over to allow Benson

36:20 Speaker 1: to get a shot on goal and swim and stop

36:23 Speaker 1: the puck, but then he had to freeze it for

36:24 Speaker 1: a defensive zone draw, and Geeky then just turned over

36:29 Speaker 1: the puck under heavy for checking once again, and there

36:33 Speaker 1: was a close range shot put pastwaymen. So your team

36:38 Speaker 1: is basically allowing all of these incredibly high danger shots

36:44 Speaker 1: on goal. They're called high danger for a reason. It's

36:47 Speaker 1: because a lot of goalies don't stop those shots. So

36:51 Speaker 1: what are we doing here? I don't know what we're

36:53 Speaker 1: doing here, and I don't know why Marfo either is

36:58 Speaker 1: stubborn were unwilling to make in game adjustments. I myself

37:04 Speaker 1: was shocked to see Swayman come back out in that

37:08 Speaker 1: second period. I thought sure there would be a ringing

37:12 Speaker 1: of asses in the locker room in between periods, pointing

37:16 Speaker 1: at my goalie and saying, you all let this fucking

37:19 Speaker 1: guy down. He was the only one that came out

37:22 Speaker 1: ready to compete and play in the first period. And again,

37:26 Speaker 1: how much of a difference would that have made, I

37:29 Speaker 1: don't know, But we're allowed to talk about it and second, yes,

37:33 Speaker 1: and have conversation about it. Sure, but I think it's

37:37 Speaker 1: almost as irritating to me the mismanagement from the bench

37:42 Speaker 1: as some of the comments that just again screams to me,

37:46 Speaker 1: you don't know and understand hockey when you just say

37:50 Speaker 1: either there was entirely Swayman's fault or the other gross

37:55 Speaker 1: misunderstanding of seeing that clip of Jeremy Swayman getting off

37:59 Speaker 1: the ice and kind of giving the bench the business

38:02 Speaker 1: as he's walking off the ice and interpreting that as

38:05 Speaker 1: him being mad that he got pulled. I'm sorry, what

38:09 Speaker 1: were you not watching this game. He's not mad that

38:11 Speaker 1: he was pulled. He was pissed that the people who

38:15 Speaker 1: were in front of him were not doing their job,

38:18 Speaker 1: because I would be livid too, What are you doing?

38:21 Speaker 2: He had every right and I don't care that he

38:24 Speaker 2: did it.

38:25 Speaker 1: No, I don't give him more of the business. I

38:28 Speaker 1: don't care. You know what, I care about the emotion

38:30 Speaker 1: that he was missed off enough to look as teammates

38:34 Speaker 1: in the eye. And I don't know what he said,

38:36 Speaker 1: but I can only imagine that it would be something

38:39 Speaker 1: like do your fucking jobs or get your heads out

38:41 Speaker 1: of your asses, just as in aside, I'm looking because

38:45 Speaker 1: I'm looking at my social media. The practice lines today,

38:48 Speaker 1: Janelle Corallly cast alike. You're not going to touch Dkluving

38:51 Speaker 1: because they've probably been the Roan's most consistent line throughout

38:55 Speaker 1: this series, which is great but is also a bit

38:59 Speaker 1: of a problem when you what line is your best

39:01 Speaker 1: and most consistent line Defensive pairings Asparro McAvoy, Lintold Harris

39:07 Speaker 1: Lorid Peak, So it looks like he might be drawing

39:10 Speaker 1: Lorice drawn back in the extras at Practice, Pagan's Steve's

39:15 Speaker 1: and Joki Hary So there you have it. This could

39:19 Speaker 1: be your lineup for the game on Tuesday night. But listen,

39:23 Speaker 1: I know I tried to finish our rant yesterday on

39:28 Speaker 1: a somewhat positive which is not like me. We've seen

39:31 Speaker 1: this team bounce back before.

39:33 Speaker 2: But I don't have a good feeling.

39:35 Speaker 1: I do not have a good feeling at all going

39:39 Speaker 1: into this game on Tuesday night of Boston Ruins. And

39:43 Speaker 1: it's simply because of the lack of adjustment in the

39:46 Speaker 1: last two games. We've seen them be able to even

39:49 Speaker 1: in other games, make adjustments, make changes, not allow three

39:55 Speaker 1: straight periods of chaos and there's been zero adjustment. There's

40:01 Speaker 1: been zero in game change. So after six periods, why

40:07 Speaker 1: would I think that they could make a change. Maybe

40:10 Speaker 1: they can make a change for one game. Okay, so

40:12 Speaker 1: it goes to six games. I don't know unless something

40:14 Speaker 1: happens drastic in this game on Tuesday. But unlike the

40:21 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Flyers, who I think, like I said, their youth

40:26 Speaker 1: got them nervous and excited and maybe they just couldn't

40:30 Speaker 1: close the deal there with Pittsburgh, Buffalo is not that. Yeah,

40:35 Speaker 1: they're new to the playoff scene, but their players are

40:39 Speaker 1: not inexperienced guys in general, they've been steady eddy stay

40:45 Speaker 1: the course, especially since Game three. The first two games

40:49 Speaker 1: with the fighting, I think maybe that's something that came

40:53 Speaker 1: from Lindy. I wouldn't be surprised if he says, all right,

40:56 Speaker 1: you've had your fun, you've got it out there, now

40:58 Speaker 1: just go and take care of business. And that's what

41:00 Speaker 1: Buffalo has been doing. They've been going in and they've

41:02 Speaker 1: taken care of business, and good on them, and they've

41:05 Speaker 1: got confidence, they've got swagger yep. So to me, it'll

41:10 Speaker 1: be a it'll be interesting to see how the Bruins

41:15 Speaker 1: respond and the level of leadership that is going to

41:19 Speaker 1: be on display on Tuesday night, from the likes of

41:22 Speaker 1: David Pasternach, Charlie McAvoy, empisilintome. Those guys are all we

41:26 Speaker 1: are letters on their chest and the rest of the

41:29 Speaker 1: team should be taking their signals from them. Dick Taps,

41:34 Speaker 1: do we have any We've got a couple of works.

41:36 Speaker 1: I mean, Jeremy's Slayman. It's a no brain showing the

41:39 Speaker 1: most leadership out of any one of those nineteen other guys.

41:43 Speaker 1: He's been showing leadership and consistency in his play that

41:47 Speaker 1: is unmatched across the board.

41:49 Speaker 2: That's it.

41:49 Speaker 1: And I do want to give stick taps to the

41:52 Speaker 1: Bruins fourth line because i've oh, yeah, yeah, I've said they.

41:56 Speaker 1: They seem to be the only grouping that is playing consistently.

42:02 Speaker 2: Well in the penalty box.

42:04 Speaker 1: I've got pretty much every phase of the Bruins game

42:08 Speaker 1: except for the goaltending, and I will give it up

42:12 Speaker 1: to the penalty kill units.

42:13 Speaker 2: They've done.

42:14 Speaker 1: The PK has been good, but the offense has stunk

42:18 Speaker 1: like they have been kept to what how many goals

42:21 Speaker 1: on home ice too? Too? Yeah, that's that's two freaking

42:26 Speaker 1: sad and disgusting. And the Bruins defense, so the defensive structure,

42:31 Speaker 1: they are not getting the job done. They are not

42:33 Speaker 1: making virtually anything far forward the Buffalo Sabers. And again

42:38 Speaker 1: I don't think it's because the defensive structure as a

42:43 Speaker 1: plan is a bad plan. They are not.

42:47 Speaker 2: Executing on it. So that's on players.

42:50 Speaker 1: To that end, we have Game five on Tuesday evening

42:54 Speaker 1: in Buffalo. I can't even venture to make a prediction

42:58 Speaker 1: because I don't have a warm and fuzzy feeling at

43:01 Speaker 1: this point in time based on the regression of play

43:05 Speaker 1: that we have seen from the Ruins and the elevated

43:09 Speaker 1: level of play. Because I don't want to disrespect the

43:11 Speaker 1: Buffalo Savers, but they seem to have elevated their game. No,

43:16 Speaker 1: they changed their game appropriate and being down rid to

43:19 Speaker 1: one is not insurmountable. But it's a hill to climb

43:23 Speaker 1: because it's just not been close.

43:25 Speaker 2: It's not been close.

43:26 Speaker 1: No, no no. So with that said, thank you for listening.

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