Boston Bruins Playoff Postmortem | Bruins Playoff News | Ep 141

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0:50 Speaker 4: Welcome in everyone to another episode of Bruins Tape to Tape.

0:53 Speaker 4: I'm your host today, Caroline with a K. It's May

0:57 Speaker 4: and the Boston Bruins are no longer playing playoff hockey.

1:00 Speaker 4: But before I continue on with talking about the sadness

1:05 Speaker 4: that is being a Boston Bruins fan, let's welcome in

1:09 Speaker 4: my fantastic.

1:10 Speaker 2: Co host, Maria. Hey, Maria, how's it going. Oh it's okay.

1:14 Speaker 2: I'm probably going to talk about the sadness that is

1:17 Speaker 2: being a Boston sports fan this weekend. We're here, we

1:21 Speaker 2: woke up, we got out of bed, we're breathing.

1:24 Speaker 4: Somebody's got a sage TD garden or hire some ecti,

1:29 Speaker 4: which is most of all.

1:30 Speaker 2: They need to put the yellow steats back in. Number

1:33 Speaker 2: one melts the ice entirely, burn the parquet floor and

1:37 Speaker 2: start all over again.

1:39 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a bad luck spot right now in Boston.

1:43 Speaker 4: If you like those haunted history tours. I'm sure that's

1:46 Speaker 4: the scariest place in the entire city right now for

1:48 Speaker 4: anyone who's not aware of what we're alluding to. On

1:53 Speaker 4: Friday night, the Bruins playoff chances ended abruptly with yet

1:58 Speaker 4: another lost on home ice. And then we had our

2:02 Speaker 4: Boston Celtics who were up three games to one on

2:06 Speaker 4: Philadelphia seventy six ers and proceeded to lose Game seven

2:12 Speaker 4: on the TD Garden parque floor. So who is more

2:15 Speaker 4: miserable than we are here in Boston right now. Oh,

2:20 Speaker 4: and then we have the head coach of our football team.

2:23 Speaker 2: Who is dealing with a myriad of cheating allegations, and

2:28 Speaker 2: a Boston Red Sox team who absolutely sucks. And now

2:33 Speaker 2: you have young players arguing with veteran players or trying

2:37 Speaker 2: to show each other up on the field. For those

2:40 Speaker 2: who have been waiting to enjoy our misery across the

2:44 Speaker 2: sports world, here you have it. I am giving it

2:47 Speaker 2: to you on a platter, and we deserve all that

2:50 Speaker 2: we have coming our way of this form.

2:53 Speaker 4: They should enjoy it now because if anything has taught

2:56 Speaker 4: me in sports, the city of Boston will not be

2:59 Speaker 4: down for long. It's the city of champions for a reason.

3:03 Speaker 4: But besides being sad that the Boston Bruins season is over,

3:08 Speaker 4: we can be happy to some extent that there is

3:12 Speaker 4: still hockey to watch that will be significantly less stressful

3:16 Speaker 4: for us because it doesn't matter what happens here on out,

3:19 Speaker 4: and you don't have a dog in the fight. It's

3:21 Speaker 4: funny how enjoyable the sport and the games can be

3:24 Speaker 4: to watch. Indeed, and of the three teams facing elimination

3:31 Speaker 4: on Friday night, the Montreal Canadians and the Tampa Bay

3:34 Speaker 4: Lightning were the only team game that actually resulted in

3:39 Speaker 4: a Game seven, and that happened just the other night,

3:43 Speaker 4: and it was a history in the making kind of game.

3:48 Speaker 2: When a professional hockey team who was in a game

3:51 Speaker 2: seven can only put what was the final shots on back,

3:56 Speaker 2: maybe nine shots on goal, and you win the free game.

4:01 Speaker 2: If you're the Tampa Bay Lightning, you're sitting there going

4:04 Speaker 2: how the hell did this happen?

4:06 Speaker 4: I hope that the Bruins coaching staff and Bruins players

4:11 Speaker 4: paid very close attention to how the Habs were able

4:14 Speaker 4: to accomplish something like that, because this season, Boston, at

4:18 Speaker 4: least at the very end, was quite good at getting

4:22 Speaker 4: very few shots on goal, but they couldn't win.

4:25 Speaker 2: And the Sabers will be playing the Habs in the

4:29 Speaker 2: second round.

4:30 Speaker 4: We've already seen Carolina and Philadelphia get started, and by

4:34 Speaker 4: the time this episode airs, they'll already have had their

4:38 Speaker 4: second game. But that one is going to be an

4:41 Speaker 4: interesting series to see how Philadelphia responds, because holy cow,

4:45 Speaker 4: did they get steamrolled.

4:46 Speaker 2: Yeah they looked a little bit deer in the headlights. Yeah,

4:50 Speaker 2: same one against Carolina. Rip Tockett is a very good,

4:54 Speaker 2: seasoned coach. I'm sure that he'll have his guys a

4:59 Speaker 2: little bit more or alert to what's going on. And

5:02 Speaker 2: Ladar didn't have a great game either, and to some

5:05 Speaker 2: degree he was left a bit high and dry in

5:08 Speaker 2: some instances. So that'll be interesting to see how that

5:11 Speaker 2: plays out. I'm hoping Philly gives the Kynes a little

5:14 Speaker 2: bit more of a run for their money, but we'll see.

5:17 Speaker 2: Carolina's been there, done that on more than one occasion,

5:20 Speaker 2: and this is new territory for the Philadelphia Flyers.

5:24 Speaker 4: It sure is, and Carolina their ability to just absolutely

5:30 Speaker 4: pepper the opposing team with shots. The only way I

5:33 Speaker 4: can see Carolina being stopped is besides their annual choke

5:38 Speaker 4: fest in the third round. Is a team that is

5:42 Speaker 4: exceptionally strong defensively with exceptional goaltending. That's really all that

5:47 Speaker 4: it's going to take. And there doesn't seem to be

5:51 Speaker 4: very many teams out there that have a defensive structure

5:55 Speaker 4: that is particularly built to play against a team like Caroline,

6:00 Speaker 4: which is fascinating because the way that Carolina plays isn't new.

6:03 Speaker 4: This is how they've been playing with Rod dbod for

6:07 Speaker 4: quite a while and I don't know, nobody seems to

6:11 Speaker 4: have created some kind of opposing defensive structure against that.

6:15 Speaker 2: And to your point of last week's episode, Freddie Anderson

6:19 Speaker 2: has been fantastic. So in the Last Out.

6:21 Speaker 4: In the last Colorado and Minnesota have kicked off their

6:25 Speaker 4: series as we suspected, It's probably going to be a

6:31 Speaker 4: well matched fight.

6:32 Speaker 2: Fifteen goals in the first game, where was the defense

6:36 Speaker 2: and the gold spent that game?

6:39 Speaker 4: That was an interesting tone setting game, especially with the

6:42 Speaker 4: fact that Colorado has been sitting and waiting and same

6:45 Speaker 4: thing with Carolina. They've been sitting and waiting and you

6:48 Speaker 4: never know how that's going to go.

6:49 Speaker 2: I know it didn't appear to be much rest in

6:52 Speaker 2: either one of those teams, but yeah, I was a

6:54 Speaker 2: little shocked by that nine to six score game one. Yeah,

6:58 Speaker 2: that's crazy. Yeah.

7:00 Speaker 4: And then we've got the Vegas Golden Knights playing Anaheim

7:04 Speaker 4: and I'm sure that's going to be a snooze fest.

7:06 Speaker 4: And as a hockey fan, I can tell you that

7:08 Speaker 4: is not one of the games I will be staying

7:10 Speaker 4: up to make an effort to wow.

7:12 Speaker 2: I have very little interest in watching that game. I

7:14 Speaker 2: think I was more interested in hearing the postgame comments

7:19 Speaker 2: by Leon d Reisidel and Connor McDavid. I'm not sure

7:22 Speaker 2: how things are going to turn out in Edmonton at

7:26 Speaker 2: this point where you've got both of your superstar players,

7:30 Speaker 2: that your franchise has taken steps backwards.

7:33 Speaker 4: That's not something you want to hear. And it does

7:37 Speaker 4: make you wonder what kind of message they were sending,

7:40 Speaker 4: either on purpose or not, to ownership and management, because

7:46 Speaker 4: we're going to take it right back to the Boston Bruins,

7:48 Speaker 4: because our very own franchise player, David Posternach had some

7:53 Speaker 4: interesting things to say after the game on Friday, where

7:57 Speaker 4: he said, of course, it's disappointing turning thirty in a

8:00 Speaker 4: couple of weeks, had one sniff at the Cup. So far,

8:04 Speaker 4: it gets harder every single year. You don't want to

8:06 Speaker 4: waste any opportunity. What do you make of his comments?

8:12 Speaker 2: Is there anything to read into it? Should we be worried?

8:15 Speaker 2: What I read into it is a cleef for help

8:17 Speaker 2: to management. Get this guy some fucking help. We have

8:22 Speaker 2: been dealing with conversations around this team's lack of scoring

8:28 Speaker 2: for years now. I'm not talking one season, two season,

8:32 Speaker 2: four years. You can't keep shopping in Filean's basement and

8:38 Speaker 2: putting contracts that are like a noose around your neck

8:43 Speaker 2: against your cap space and thinking that the results are

8:46 Speaker 2: ever going to change. The reality is the Bruins lost

8:51 Speaker 2: to the Buffalo Sabers because they couldn't score more goals

8:55 Speaker 2: than the Buffalo Sabers did. That's the reality of it.

8:58 Speaker 2: You couldn't score because you don't have proven finishers on

9:03 Speaker 2: this team, and Morgan geeky, disappeared when you needed him most.

9:07 Speaker 2: Elias Lindholm disappeared when you needed him most. Pavel Zaka

9:12 Speaker 2: disappeared and David Pasternak is subject to criticism. I understand

9:17 Speaker 2: that he is your superstar, but he's also the one

9:21 Speaker 2: player on your team that every other team knows they

9:24 Speaker 2: can just target and try to shut him down and

9:27 Speaker 2: prevent him from doing what he is capable of doing.

9:31 Speaker 2: So to me, how I read that is a crime.

9:35 Speaker 2: For help.

9:35 Speaker 1: Now, at some point, Sweeney and Eely need to shult

9:38 Speaker 1: to get off the park, shit, or get off the

9:41 Speaker 1: park and address the gaping pole that this team has

9:46 Speaker 1: had for quite some time.

9:47 Speaker 2: Agreed.

9:48 Speaker 4: I think it's been particularly frustrating seeing David Pasternak this

9:53 Speaker 4: last season.

9:54 Speaker 2: But I'm not saying that he.

9:55 Speaker 5: Was relegated to a playmaker's role. I think that that's no, no,

9:58 Speaker 5: But he he knowledge to that he should have taken

10:02 Speaker 5: more shots. It's easy to say that now, and when

10:05 Speaker 5: you now, you want to say, well, why did you

10:07 Speaker 5: pass up?

10:08 Speaker 2: Right? Why did you pass up? You wonder why people

10:10 Speaker 2: are like fancy in the building and boeing, It's because

10:14 Speaker 2: you guys are passing up open looks. I don't know

10:17 Speaker 2: if it's a mindset, a philosophy, or what the hell

10:21 Speaker 2: the problem is?

10:22 Speaker 4: I mean, I wonder was he passing the puck all

10:24 Speaker 4: that frequently or making these plays all that frequently, and

10:27 Speaker 4: an effort to diversify the goal scoring to see can

10:30 Speaker 4: we develop can we get other people going? The problem

10:34 Speaker 4: that I've had over the last five years has been

10:38 Speaker 4: the fact that you will have flash in the pan

10:43 Speaker 4: players and we just with the exception of David Pasternak,

10:48 Speaker 4: we just have not had or seen in a very

10:52 Speaker 4: long time, another player outside of Pasta who is a

10:58 Speaker 4: reliable offense ive threat. We had the second line this season, they.

11:04 Speaker 2: Were they were one of the best lines in the league. Yes,

11:07 Speaker 2: but then Arvidson goes out with an injury, right right,

11:11 Speaker 2: But this came It feels like it came out of nowhere.

11:14 Speaker 2: So how can I then assume that is the real deal?

11:19 Speaker 2: Because we've seen Pavel Zaka be mediocre in the scoring

11:25 Speaker 2: department for a very long time and then all of

11:27 Speaker 2: a sudden he is great. We saw Charlie Coyle be really.

11:32 Speaker 4: Disappointing for a long time and then all of a

11:34 Speaker 4: sudden he was great for one or two seasons. Brandon

11:37 Speaker 4: Carlow mediocre for a really long time, and then one

11:40 Speaker 4: or two seasons he was great, and then they.

11:42 Speaker 2: Just drop off. Where are these players?

11:46 Speaker 4: And I hate to always go backwards because it doesn't

11:49 Speaker 4: do us any good. But we don't have a new

11:53 Speaker 4: David Krachi. We don't have a new Patrice Bergeron or

11:56 Speaker 4: a new Brad Marshan. We don't have those players who

12:00 Speaker 4: you look at them and they are great year after year.

12:04 Speaker 4: We just don't see that consistency on this roster. So

12:08 Speaker 4: there is no reliable depth and you're at the mercy

12:12 Speaker 4: of well, I hope this is a good season, and

12:16 Speaker 4: it's likely that if you have these flash in the

12:19 Speaker 4: pan guys, they will go hot and cold. And that's

12:22 Speaker 4: exactly what happened with that second line. I think management understand.

12:26 Speaker 4: Management should be well aware of the fact that it

12:30 Speaker 4: was malfeasance on their part not to plan for the

12:33 Speaker 4: day that Teres Bergeron and David Craigie were no longer

12:37 Speaker 4: Boston Ruins. And now you're trying to piece snail something

12:41 Speaker 4: together in the hope that lightning strikes and that you, oh, well, aw,

12:46 Speaker 4: look we found the guy, right, we just found the

12:49 Speaker 4: guy in a deal. And those guys don't fall off

12:53 Speaker 4: of trees easily, right, they don't. They don't now you've

12:57 Speaker 4: got James Higgins, who will see what he is able

13:00 Speaker 4: to bring to the table in his first full season.

13:04 Speaker 4: There was no reason to throw that kid into this

13:08 Speaker 4: scenario right now, Absolutely none, as far as I'm concerned. Look,

13:13 Speaker 4: I'm the one who at the start of the season,

13:16 Speaker 4: and I'll call myself out, my prediction was they wouldn't

13:19 Speaker 4: even make the playoffs with the roster that we were

13:22 Speaker 4: looking at in front of us. So for them to

13:26 Speaker 4: have played as decently as they did throughout the course

13:30 Speaker 4: of the regular season and to make the playoffs, they

13:34 Speaker 4: proved me wrong. What they didn't prove to themselves is

13:38 Speaker 4: that they had the mental fortitude to fight through the

13:41 Speaker 4: adversity and deal with whatever issue they have with fucking

13:46 Speaker 4: winning at home and be able to take advantage of

13:50 Speaker 4: the scoring opportunities when they presented themselves.

13:54 Speaker 2: But Alec Lyon for the Sabers played really well. Did

13:57 Speaker 2: he play better than Jeremy Swayman? Ok? Maybe statistically he did,

14:02 Speaker 2: but he wasn't challenged as well as Swayman was. If

14:07 Speaker 2: you had been able to get him moving from side

14:10 Speaker 2: to side, but you couldn't even manage that. So that

14:17 Speaker 2: is an inherent flaw on you an inherent criticism on

14:21 Speaker 2: you and the roster construction, and also credit to the

14:25 Speaker 2: Buffalo Savers for their defensive structure. Both things can be true,

14:30 Speaker 2: but what is more frustrating is that there was too

14:34 Speaker 2: much and we've said this a lot during the regular season,

14:37 Speaker 2: too much one and done offensively, too much of it.

14:41 Speaker 2: You're not going to have any sustained success with that

14:46 Speaker 2: kind of a recipe, yes, exactly.

14:48 Speaker 4: And I think even when we're talking about the fact

14:51 Speaker 4: that the Bruins' management has not been able to bring

14:57 Speaker 4: in anybody who is sustaining any kind of offensive prowess,

15:03 Speaker 4: it seems like the only players who they were able

15:07 Speaker 4: to get that out of were all players that they

15:10 Speaker 4: drafted themselves. Maybe that means James Hagen's is gonna eventually.

15:14 Speaker 2: Fill one of those roles.

15:15 Speaker 4: But I think one of the things that Ruins management

15:20 Speaker 4: scouting whoever they like, to try and find that diamond

15:26 Speaker 4: in the rough. And look, I think that we've gotten lucky,

15:31 Speaker 4: and we've certainly found some of those diamonds in the rough,

15:34 Speaker 4: but unfortunately, it still doesn't seem like any of them

15:39 Speaker 4: are actual diamonds. They've been I don't know, some kind

15:43 Speaker 4: of precious.

15:44 Speaker 2: Gem, ruby, an emerald, but not one of them is

15:47 Speaker 2: a diamond, right.

15:48 Speaker 4: I'm thinking of Morgan Geeky, and again I'm not in

15:53 Speaker 4: disagreement with the contract that he landed. I am not

15:56 Speaker 4: dissatisfied with Morgan Geeky. I just think he's not been

16:01 Speaker 4: tested long enough.

16:03 Speaker 2: He's not a big game player. No, he's not a

16:06 Speaker 2: big game player. I think this is an opportunity for

16:08 Speaker 2: us to be honest about what we saw. And I

16:14 Speaker 2: expected him to step up as he had done during

16:18 Speaker 2: the regular season, and he was virtually invisible. You want

16:23 Speaker 2: me to encourage the resigning of Pavosaka, I don't know.

16:27 Speaker 2: I don't know because I don't see enough from these

16:31 Speaker 2: players that instill the faith that I want these guys

16:35 Speaker 2: to be part of this continuous rebuild or retool or

16:39 Speaker 2: whatever the hell the Ruins organization wants to call it

16:42 Speaker 2: that they're doing right now. And I'll throw Charlie Macka

16:45 Speaker 2: going into that bucket too. You know, i'n't been shy

16:47 Speaker 2: about saying that he is, to me, one of the

16:50 Speaker 2: most overrated defensemen that I have seen in my long

16:54 Speaker 2: tenure of watching Bucky. To me, a franchise altering defenceman

16:59 Speaker 2: is Kale mcar Charlie. You want to know Kal mccar no,

17:03 Speaker 2: And maybe that's not what the Bruins need him to

17:06 Speaker 2: be or want him to be, But I don't view

17:09 Speaker 2: him as our franchise altering defenseman. I'm sorry.

17:13 Speaker 4: And one of the other things that again I hate

17:17 Speaker 4: living in the past here, but it's what's missing when

17:20 Speaker 4: I talk about David Krachie, What's what was his nickname?

17:25 Speaker 4: What did we say, Oh, here comes playoff stretch. Yeah,

17:30 Speaker 4: not a single player until quite literally the end in

17:35 Speaker 4: David Pasternach and Ermis Wayman, although I would argue he

17:39 Speaker 4: was at such a high level anyways, not a single

17:42 Speaker 4: other player on that roster elevated their game in this

17:46 Speaker 4: playoff series.

17:47 Speaker 2: Not a single one. In my opinion.

17:50 Speaker 4: Nobody brought it. Nobody showed me that step up, that

17:55 Speaker 4: playoff mentality, that leap in performance. Nobody was ex explosive,

18:01 Speaker 4: nobody looked like they were shot out of a cannon.

18:03 Speaker 2: But none of that existed. None of that existed for me. Yes,

18:08 Speaker 2: I wholeheartedly agree with you. Again, We're going to have

18:12 Speaker 2: these conversations during the off season because clearly there's still

18:16 Speaker 2: a significant amount of work to do in an effort

18:20 Speaker 2: to try and build a potentially championship roster. Here for

18:24 Speaker 2: the Boston Bruins.

18:25 Speaker 4: Again, Yes, and I think that the laundry list of

18:29 Speaker 4: not just their needs from a personnel perspective, there's a

18:33 Speaker 4: clear list there. There's also a clear list of changes

18:38 Speaker 4: that need to happen on the ice behaviorally, the shot taking,

18:44 Speaker 4: the penalty issues, the stick infractions. I'm optimistic to some

18:48 Speaker 4: extent because I think the issues are both fixable and

18:54 Speaker 4: attainable dots.

18:56 Speaker 2: I think the fixable part is what is extremely challenging,

19:01 Speaker 2: because if you want to fix it quickly, then you

19:04 Speaker 2: need to make a big hockey trade. Right If you're

19:07 Speaker 2: telling me that we can fix it, but we're going

19:10 Speaker 2: to fix it through drafting and patience, Okay, but who

19:15 Speaker 2: is it who have you identified that you're going to

19:18 Speaker 2: fix this problem with? Because listen, based on what David said,

19:22 Speaker 2: he's going to be thirty years old. Hey this summer,

19:25 Speaker 2: how many more hockey years does he have? Realistically, how

19:28 Speaker 2: many more hockey years does he have?

19:31 Speaker 1: Do you?

19:32 Speaker 2: And I'm talking to you, Sweeney and Neely, do you

19:35 Speaker 2: want to run the risk of having this guy who

19:38 Speaker 2: clearly wants another opportunity at a Stanley Cup. How long

19:43 Speaker 2: do you think he's going to wait around for that?

19:45 Speaker 2: How long do the people in Edmonton think that Conor

19:48 Speaker 2: McDavid is going to wait around for that before they

19:51 Speaker 2: go to their agents and say, get me the hell

19:54 Speaker 2: out of here. We're looking at another four or five

19:57 Speaker 2: years yeah before and it's so hard to get there.

20:01 Speaker 2: It is so freaking hard to get there. How long

20:05 Speaker 2: do you think these guys are going to sit around

20:07 Speaker 2: waiting for that to occur?

20:09 Speaker 4: I think I wouldn't blame a single elite player for

20:14 Speaker 4: making that request. And quite frankly, even though there was

20:18 Speaker 4: significant pain involved around it with Brad marshand, he used

20:22 Speaker 4: that same privilege last year in his benefits. Right now,

20:26 Speaker 4: it's easy to talk about because it's not realistic. It's

20:29 Speaker 4: not something that's happening right now. Marshan, like it's where

20:32 Speaker 4: a year removed. We saw that it was ultimately worth

20:35 Speaker 4: it for him in the long run, for what he

20:37 Speaker 4: wanted and why he did it. But I think it's

20:39 Speaker 4: a very real possibility that hopefully those idiots in the

20:43 Speaker 4: front office don't allow to happen.

20:45 Speaker 2: I'm sure they're very well aware of where their deficiencies

20:49 Speaker 2: are on this roster. But the question is how to

20:52 Speaker 2: get them addrussed, and how long it's going to take

20:57 Speaker 2: to get them addrussed, And what risk do you write

21:00 Speaker 2: on that your veterans like David Pasternach. Maybe they aren't,

21:05 Speaker 2: I don't know, but I think of if it's me

21:08 Speaker 2: and I'm thirty years old and I'm looking at another

21:10 Speaker 2: four or five years of potentially trying to rebuild this team,

21:13 Speaker 2: peace out, get me out of here. Yes, agreed, So

21:17 Speaker 2: let's do a real quick stick taps for the series

21:21 Speaker 2: as a whole. Jeremy Swayman absolutely told us all to

21:26 Speaker 2: have a cup of you know what because we were

21:30 Speaker 2: all very critical of him. A lot was made of

21:34 Speaker 2: the contract that he signed, but there is no arguing

21:37 Speaker 2: in my mind that Jeremy Swayman was the best Boston

21:41 Speaker 2: Bruin player in this series versus the Sabers. Oh, hands

21:46 Speaker 2: down one in agreement. I think he's the only one

21:50 Speaker 2: that I would give a genuine stick tap to. As well.

21:54 Speaker 4: For David Pasternach, let's just say he's excused from the

21:58 Speaker 4: conversation entirely.

22:00 Speaker 2: Yes and no. In my view, the leaders on this

22:02 Speaker 2: team and I'm talking about Pasta and Charlie and hanpus

22:08 Speaker 2: lind Home. They needed to be difference makers and they

22:11 Speaker 2: were not. They absolutely were not difference makers in this series.

22:16 Speaker 2: And I know you've got a mixture of vets and

22:20 Speaker 2: young kids, but those are the guys that are wearing

22:23 Speaker 2: the letters on your jerseys. When you have captains in

22:26 Speaker 2: the past or leaders in the past, the likes of

22:29 Speaker 2: which were Zadano Chara and Patrise Berjon and Brat Marshand

22:33 Speaker 2: and you physically see them just by the performance on

22:37 Speaker 2: the ice, saying to their teammates and to the fans,

22:41 Speaker 2: watch me and do as I do. Did you see

22:44 Speaker 2: any of that in this series against Buffalo? Not until

22:47 Speaker 2: it was too late. And I don't think you need

22:50 Speaker 2: to have a sea on your jersey or a lettle

22:52 Speaker 2: on your jersey to do that, but that was definitely missing.

22:57 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, but also for play off purposes. That's what

23:03 Speaker 4: your game in the playoffs requires of every player. And

23:06 Speaker 4: even in the regular season, and next week we'll talk

23:09 Speaker 4: about will do a whole season review, post mortem evaluation,

23:15 Speaker 4: but even all during the regular season, we never saw

23:17 Speaker 4: anybody take the team on their back. We saw David

23:21 Speaker 4: Posternoch do that last year, right around the time that

23:24 Speaker 4: Brad Marsham was traded away. If you follow me on

23:27 Speaker 4: my socials, you'll know that I am coming to the

23:31 Speaker 4: opinion that when it is time to name the next

23:35 Speaker 4: captain of the Boston Bruins, I think it needs to

23:38 Speaker 4: come from the outside because as much as I love

23:42 Speaker 4: David Posternach and I think he's earned it, I almost

23:46 Speaker 4: wondered if him taking on that leadership role with the

23:51 Speaker 4: departure of Brad marshand, if that the pressure of the expectations,

23:56 Speaker 4: whatever you want to call it, if that was detrimental

24:00 Speaker 4: to his game, or maybe he felt like he had

24:03 Speaker 4: to be a different player, Maybe he felt he had

24:05 Speaker 4: to be that playmaker to be a leader. I don't know, obviously,

24:09 Speaker 4: I think that it did something to his game and Boston.

24:15 Speaker 4: As much as we talk about the things that they need,

24:17 Speaker 4: the things that they were missing, he's that bird in hand,

24:21 Speaker 4: and we need to make sure that no matter what happens,

24:24 Speaker 4: he's still that reliable goal scorer. I mean, we only

24:29 Speaker 4: have the one, and we need to make sure that

24:31 Speaker 4: he's still performing in in that role. I mean, he

24:35 Speaker 4: had yes one hundred points this season, but nowhere's near

24:38 Speaker 4: the goals that we're used to and I don't know,

24:41 Speaker 4: I'm starting to feel like, whatever the decision is made,

24:45 Speaker 4: I don't think they're going to go looking outside. But

24:48 Speaker 4: I do think that it negatively impacted his performance on

24:52 Speaker 4: the ice. But penalty box is anyone not in the box?

24:56 Speaker 2: Otherwise? What about the kids? I mean, I mean the

25:00 Speaker 2: kids were the kids. I don't think they had Did

25:03 Speaker 2: they play well? Did they play poorly? I'm kind of

25:07 Speaker 2: middle of the road. They weren't very noticeable. They didn't

25:10 Speaker 2: have any type of an impact in the end results

25:14 Speaker 2: of games. So I'm not going to dump on them

25:17 Speaker 2: because I expected more from other But if we were

25:21 Speaker 2: putting our eggs all in the kid basket, then we

25:24 Speaker 2: were in bigger trouble than we thought we were in.

25:26 Speaker 2: Same thing with the fourth line. They performed well, but

25:30 Speaker 2: if you're putting all your eggs in that basket, you're

25:33 Speaker 2: in big trouble. They're in really big trouble. Yeah, I agree.

25:38 Speaker 4: I do think that Husnadinov started to become a little

25:41 Speaker 4: bit more noticeable in the final two games of the series.

25:44 Speaker 2: I liked his game.

25:46 Speaker 4: He was in a lot of places. I think he's

25:48 Speaker 4: got a lot of speed. He's also still very young,

25:52 Speaker 4: so this is not the top of his game. I

25:55 Speaker 4: think he has more to give. I think also with Freezerman,

26:00 Speaker 4: he's another one. He's young, and it's not that they

26:04 Speaker 4: are not fast enough or strong enough, but you could

26:08 Speaker 4: definitely see a lot of our more inexperienced and younger

26:13 Speaker 4: players just not as strong on the puck as someone

26:15 Speaker 4: like David Pasternach and so constantly than just being pickpocketed

26:20 Speaker 4: and pushed around because they just didn't have whatever it

26:24 Speaker 4: takes strength, physical, strength of mind, whatever it takes to

26:28 Speaker 4: be strong on the puck and maintain possession.

26:30 Speaker 2: But I'm not worried about them.

26:33 Speaker 4: I think as long as they continue to be developed properly,

26:36 Speaker 4: and I think under the guidance of Marco Sturm they

26:39 Speaker 4: will be that they'll become better.

26:41 Speaker 2: Hopefully the series was a learning experience for these younger guys.

26:46 Speaker 2: I will say, though, we do need to touch upon

26:48 Speaker 2: Charlie mclboy's actions at the end of the Guests.

26:51 Speaker 4: I want to I'm going to come out on record

26:53 Speaker 4: and say I don't care what the other guy did

26:56 Speaker 4: to you. I don't care if he boarded you to

26:59 Speaker 4: an inch of your life. I think it's unacceptable that

27:02 Speaker 4: he turned around and tried to do a truba. Yeah,

27:04 Speaker 4: it's disgusting, it's absolutely it's I'd rather have seen him

27:08 Speaker 4: try and throw a punch. No, it's shitty, it's just

27:11 Speaker 4: shitty action.

27:13 Speaker 2: It's dirty. And I understand what was done to you,

27:17 Speaker 2: what precipitated the action was dirty as well. But your

27:21 Speaker 2: stick is not a freaking weapon. And you're going to

27:24 Speaker 2: get suspended, Charlie. When you're offered an in person hearing,

27:28 Speaker 2: you are going to get a suspension. It's just a

27:31 Speaker 2: question of how many games that suspension is going to be. Yes.

27:36 Speaker 4: Ever since and I call it swinging a truba, ever

27:39 Speaker 4: since Truba walked away without any sort of repercussion for

27:43 Speaker 4: doing that to Trent Frederick a couple of years ago,

27:46 Speaker 4: it seems like any other time that it has happened since,

27:50 Speaker 4: player Safety has taken that very seriously.

27:52 Speaker 3: And because if they screwed that one up, totally screwed

27:56 Speaker 3: it up. They did, they did, and for a leader

27:59 Speaker 3: to do that again and stage just there's no excuse.

28:02 Speaker 3: There's no excuse, no not Yeah.

28:04 Speaker 2: I hope you enjoy your first three or four games

28:06 Speaker 2: watching from the eighth floor Charlie to start next season,

28:09 Speaker 2: because it's going to be I'm guessing it's going to

28:12 Speaker 2: be at least three games. I think that many we'll see.

28:15 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know it's Charlie a first time offender.

28:18 Speaker 2: I don't know of that sort. Yes, it's not the

28:21 Speaker 2: first time he's been suspended. I don't think that factors in.

28:24 Speaker 2: I think it's just a matter of now you're going

28:26 Speaker 2: to be labeled as a quote unquote repeat offender. I'd

28:29 Speaker 2: be surprised if it isn't at least three games.

28:31 Speaker 4: But yeah, with that being said, we'll watch our Stanley

28:35 Speaker 4: Cup playoff hockey slightly sad, but at least relieved of

28:39 Speaker 4: the stress and anxiety that was watching the Boston Bruins

28:42 Speaker 4: play against the Buffalo Sabers.

28:44 Speaker 2: I'm making it known that my rooting interests moving forward

28:48 Speaker 2: are with the Buffalo Sabers. I'm not there yet. I'm

28:50 Speaker 2: still bitter. I'm not there yet.

28:52 Speaker 4: I want to see them earn, like really earn their spot,

28:56 Speaker 4: because I don't think that they were actually genuinely challenged

29:00 Speaker 4: in any meaningful way against Boston after the first two games, well,

29:04 Speaker 4: I don't.

29:04 Speaker 2: Know how much of a challenge they're going to get

29:07 Speaker 2: against a team that can only manage nine shots on

29:10 Speaker 2: goal in a game, but we shall see what the

29:12 Speaker 2: Montreal Canadians bring them.

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29:33 Speaker 2: I know I can't. I can't even I can't even

29:36 Speaker 2: say what we normally say in closing the Bruins season

29:41 Speaker 2: is over. It ended as I expected it to end,

29:45 Speaker 2: with some bitter disappointment. That's all I have to say.

29:48 Speaker 2: I'll say it as always go bes

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