Bruins Free Agency Frenzy Fizzles? | Ep. 97
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Speaker 4: co host, Maria Watertown. Hey, Maria, how's it going?
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Speaker 4: Yep. Oh yeah. Yeah. So that being said, hooray for us.
Speaker 4: But more exciting news is free agency. So uh, I
Speaker 4: don't know if you've noticed this, and again this is
Speaker 4: one of those things that because we only talk about
Speaker 4: it literally once every year, I can't remember how it
Speaker 4: has happened in the past. But tons of activity for
Speaker 4: sign and trade or well trade and signs, and a
Speaker 4: lot of extensions coming in really at the eleventh hour.
Speaker 4: We have a little spreadsheet that we use that again
Speaker 4: again perks of being in the discord, you get to
Speaker 4: keep track with us there. But well over one hundred
Speaker 4: signing slash extensions prior to the deadline this year, and
Speaker 4: part of me is wondering, and I want to get
Speaker 4: your take on this, Maria as to why it seems
Speaker 4: like there's been quite so many. I thought about this
Speaker 4: and I have I have a take on it. So
Speaker 4: do you think the reason behind it is the threat
Speaker 4: of offer sheets likely being a big thing this year
Speaker 4: or what's your take? Why do you think this is
Speaker 4: such a to do this year?
Speaker 5: Well, I think there is some concern that more so
Speaker 5: not just the offera sheets, but the fact that because
Speaker 5: salary k went up and teams have extra moneies to
Speaker 5: grow at guys that I think they really wanted to
Speaker 5: get their guys those that they wanted to keep certain
Speaker 5: franchises locked and loaded before they potentially had an opportunity
Speaker 5: to go out there and be wowed by someone else's offer,
Speaker 5: And it was almost a little bit of a like
Speaker 5: you know when you blow up a balloon and you
Speaker 5: start seeing the air coming out of the balloon. Because
Speaker 5: all of this drama or the splashes happened yesterday or
Speaker 5: late last night. So here we are free agency and
Speaker 5: we're like, Okay, who's left on the big board that
Speaker 5: anyone's really be interested in.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's very akin to what the NHL trade deadline
Speaker 4: had been for the last couple of years. So again
Speaker 4: we've talked about this that the last prior to this
Speaker 4: past NHL trade deadline, the two or maybe three years prior,
Speaker 4: teams weren't waiting till the eleventh hour for that blockbuster trade.
Speaker 4: On trade deadline day, it seemed like the start for
Speaker 4: the trades was really creeping further and further into February,
Speaker 4: and even at the very end of January. I was
Speaker 4: calling it like the Black Friday creed that used to exist,
Speaker 4: and so and then all of a sudden this year,
Speaker 4: you know, the trade deadline kind of went back to
Speaker 4: quote unquote normal what we are used to seeing. And
Speaker 4: so I kind of wonder if that's what's happened here. Again,
Speaker 4: everybody's just been super motivated to do business ahead of time.
Speaker 4: The new CBA is coming, so who knows how any
Speaker 4: of that's going to be changed. You know, it's there's
Speaker 4: a memorandum of understanding that's out right now, but it's
Speaker 4: not officially out yet, so you know, when we get
Speaker 4: the official like, yes, this is the deal, we'll go
Speaker 4: through it. But rumor is that the length of term
Speaker 4: is one of those aspects as part of the CBA
Speaker 4: and it's going to be shortened. So certainly another reason
Speaker 4: that if your player is eligible for extension because he's
Speaker 4: in his final year of his contract, that perhaps you
Speaker 4: want to get that in now before changes to term.
Speaker 4: And honestly, why.
Speaker 5: Risk it If you want to keep the player and
Speaker 5: the player wants to stay with your franchise, why would
Speaker 5: you risk the possibility of the potential that again, you know,
Speaker 5: the lure of money or the lure of money or
Speaker 5: term or both might be too big of risk yep
Speaker 5: for you to swallow if you want to keep a
Speaker 5: specific player yep. And I don't know, you know, get
Speaker 5: to this at some point, but I don't understand two things.
Speaker 5: I don't understand how Bill Zito of the Florida Panthers
Speaker 5: was not named GM of the Year, and I don't
Speaker 5: know how he re signed at Blad Bennett and Marshy.
Speaker 4: Ye.
Speaker 5: That is a dropping of the gauntlet across the league
Speaker 5: saying we're in this to become a dynasty and I'll
Speaker 5: show you how we're gonna do that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's truly astonishing to me because much as we
Speaker 4: have discussed how the culture of the team is very different,
Speaker 4: the way that Zito and his brain trust have gone
Speaker 4: about building a team is also a little bit different
Speaker 4: than I think we've seen in a lot of other teams.
Speaker 4: You know, if you I talked about this recently when
Speaker 4: I was a guest on the Post Huggers podcast, asked
Speaker 4: saying that if you call you know Moneyball and the
Speaker 4: Oakland A's from beck you know twenty some idd years
Speaker 4: ago where they took all these different random guys and
Speaker 4: based on analytics, built an incredible team. And the Florida
Speaker 4: Panthers are pretty well known for being an analytics heavy
Speaker 4: team looking for those guys that maybe are not the
Speaker 4: obvious best player, but because they have built a team
Speaker 4: where every player has a very specific job. You know,
Speaker 4: that's something that we have talked about for years now
Speaker 4: on this podcast that everyone has to have a job
Speaker 4: and they have to be really good at it, and they.
Speaker 5: Have to understand what their job is, they have to
Speaker 5: understand how to execute it, and they have to understand
Speaker 5: and know what the ultimate goal or result of doing
Speaker 5: your job should be. And you know, we we have
Speaker 5: talked many times on our own podcast about certain teams
Speaker 5: that we have both agreed don't play honorable games, true, right,
Speaker 5: And the Panthers are one of those those teams, and
Speaker 5: there are a couple of other teams in the league,
Speaker 5: but Jesus Christ, it's hard to argue with the success
Speaker 5: that they have in the impressive way they go about
Speaker 5: getting their business done.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, one hundred percent. So that's pretty astonishing. But
Speaker 4: let's shift gears really quick because we've got about three
Speaker 4: minutes until the season and we're going to get flooded,
Speaker 4: so you know, we'll be checking our phones and keeping
Speaker 4: everybody abreast of what's happening. And if you're listening to
Speaker 4: this a little bit later, because we're going to release
Speaker 4: this also as our podcast episode, you'll get to hear
Speaker 4: us kind of give our hot takes in real time,
Speaker 4: and for Bruins specific dealings, we will be doing deeper
Speaker 4: dives later in summer, but first and foremost for Boston,
Speaker 4: we've seen a flurry of activity. Even just in the
Speaker 4: last couple of days, we've had a number of extensions.
Speaker 4: So I'm going to go down the line real quick,
Speaker 4: and Maria, I want to I want you to give
Speaker 4: like a super hot take, couple of words, give me
Speaker 4: your opinion, and then we can discuss later. So they
Speaker 4: have extended Jeordi Merkilov in Boston at seven to seventy
Speaker 4: five cap hit for this RFA with arbitration one year.
Speaker 5: You know, this player doesn't totally excite me in any way,
Speaker 5: shape or form anyways. So I'm kind of, you know,
Speaker 5: okay with it.
Speaker 4: Okay, Henry Joki Harre you if you listen to a
Speaker 4: previous episode that we've already had, he's the one that
Speaker 4: we thought maybe wasn't going to be coming back. He
Speaker 4: signed an extension for three million dollars for three years
Speaker 4: to make him as a UFA thoughts there.
Speaker 5: I'm just I'm trying to understand how they're building their
Speaker 5: roster and I'm still struggling with the process and the plan.
Speaker 5: So again, I'm not getting any warm and fuzzies.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Well it's I don't know, me crazy, but yeah, I'm
Speaker 5: not getting any warm and fuzzies at this point.
Speaker 4: So we also have John Beecher also extended for one year.
Speaker 4: He's currently an RFA with arbitration rights for nine hundred
Speaker 4: thousand dollars. Welcome back, John Beecher.
Speaker 5: I guess, I mean, I guess like, look, you can't
Speaker 5: give up on all these young players, right, but true
Speaker 5: at some point. Okay, so if this is an instance
Speaker 5: where look, dude, we're giving you one more opportunity, Okay, sure,
Speaker 5: we're giving you one more opportunity to show us that
Speaker 5: you have what it takes and you're willing to put
Speaker 5: the work in consistently to show us what you have
Speaker 5: to warrant staying with our franchise.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: Mara Husnadinov was another young man we talked about that.
Speaker 4: We said that we wanted to see him come back
Speaker 4: nine five for a two year extension RFA with arbitration rates.
Speaker 5: I think that's a good deal for the Bruins. I
Speaker 5: think there is a potential for some good stuff to
Speaker 5: come out of this player.
Speaker 4: So I'm okay with that.
Speaker 5: And it's only two years, so you know, I have
Speaker 5: to give Sweeney some credit, but he's not he's not
Speaker 5: going all in with you know, these long contracts like
Speaker 5: the Edmonton Oilers did with a certain former bruin.
Speaker 4: We'll get we'll get to that one too. Sure, I'm
Speaker 4: sure we're going to skip the one that I know
Speaker 4: you got thoughts on for a little bit later. But
Speaker 4: Michael Callahan got an extension one year at seven seventy five.
Speaker 4: Quite frankly, I said yesterday, I don't even remember this guy,
Speaker 4: and Grant, I believe said and you can yell at
Speaker 4: me if I'm wrong. I played like seventeen games and
Speaker 4: I have zero recollection guy, So sorry any thoughts there
Speaker 4: because I didn't remember. Look, I mean.
Speaker 5: Each of every one of the players that you have
Speaker 5: mentioned to date, and I know that I've used this
Speaker 5: term on more than one occasion in previous podcasts. Is
Speaker 5: I qualify them as Jags just another guy? These are
Speaker 5: not going to be the building blocks four bringing you
Speaker 5: back from the this that you were in last season?
Speaker 4: Right right? Oh? All right? So we have a late
Speaker 4: breaking one from twenty minutes ago, so this is a
Speaker 4: little bit different. Let me pull up just on a
Speaker 4: bigger screen. The Bruins have made a trade at the
Speaker 4: deadline with the Oilers for Victor Arvison. Yes, so Victor Arvidson.
Speaker 4: He has a two year contract, so he's going into
Speaker 4: his second year. So I'll be curious to see if
Speaker 4: this turns into a possible extension because they have he
Speaker 4: is a cap hit of four million dollars with a
Speaker 4: no move clause, so he either Boston was on a list.
Speaker 4: I don't know that the details. So again, like I said,
Speaker 4: we're just getting the news, and Boston sends back a
Speaker 4: twenty twenty seven fifth round pick, no salary rotaine.
Speaker 5: So that's kind of the last I did ask on Twitter.
Speaker 5: Yes to Scott McLaughlin, who writes for WEEI and also
Speaker 5: is the one of the hosts of the Skate Pod,
Speaker 5: and he said, you know what exactly are the Bruin's
Speaker 5: doing here? So Ardvredson was Marcus Stern was an assistant
Speaker 5: during Ardvardson's first year with the Kings, so Marco has
Speaker 5: some familiarity with this player. And in addition, what Scott
Speaker 5: told me was is that he likes to shoot a
Speaker 5: lot this player and can average fifteen twenty goals a season. Yep, yes,
Speaker 5: so he has scored twenty plus goals five times. Scott
Speaker 5: referred to him as not an elite finisher, but he
Speaker 5: can pretty much give you twenty goals and he can
Speaker 5: make things happen on the rush too, and good on
Speaker 5: zone entries. So, you know, maybe because we've had so
Speaker 5: many issues offensively both you know, five on five and
Speaker 5: with the power play with zone entries. So thank you
Speaker 5: Scott for that context.
Speaker 4: Yeah, at this point, I'm not mad about bringing in
Speaker 4: a forward who has the propensity to shoot. I don't
Speaker 4: care if all we're going to get is twenty goals
Speaker 4: out of him, because I think the biggest complaint certainly
Speaker 4: last season, and I feel like it was probably this
Speaker 4: the case the season before, is you can't just be
Speaker 4: reliant on those quality shots like that. We don't have
Speaker 4: enough guys on the team who are elite enough. We
Speaker 4: don't have enough. We don't have ten David Poster Knox right,
Speaker 4: So you just have to pepper them with shots and
Speaker 4: you just increase your odds and if you've got the
Speaker 4: right guys around the net, and the right play setup,
Speaker 4: they'll get one in right. So I'm i'm I think
Speaker 4: this has some potential. We'll definitely do a deep dive
Speaker 4: on him because I'm curious about any other details around
Speaker 4: this particular player and what he could be bringing to
Speaker 4: the team. So that's great news. That happened literally twenty
Speaker 4: minutes prior to minutes ago, everything that just happened, So
Speaker 4: that's great. So a couple of other kind of what
Speaker 4: am I trying to say, Providence players can't even think
Speaker 4: right now, that have also been extended. Besides Michael Callahan,
Speaker 4: we've got Michael Dpietrow, who's a goaltender. We've kind of
Speaker 4: heard about him a little bit. He's the guy who
Speaker 4: came over from Vancouver if you remember a couple of
Speaker 4: seasons ago, who was definitely the victim of the bubble
Speaker 4: season his development. So I'm curious to know what they're
Speaker 4: going to be planning on with him because he just
Speaker 4: signed a two year deal for like eight twelve, which
Speaker 4: is like nothing, but he's twenty six, so I wonder
Speaker 4: if they are prepping him for some kind of support
Speaker 4: role in the future. Then we have Patrick Brown, Okay,
Speaker 4: great seven seventy five for one year. He's thirty three
Speaker 4: year old UFA. And then we've got the big ones,
Speaker 4: which are of course Morgan Geeky. That's the one that
Speaker 4: everybody was waiting for. Everyone was nervous, but you have
Speaker 4: to remember the qualifying offers weren't due in until literally yesterday,
Speaker 4: so they clearly were working down to the wire, giving
Speaker 4: us just a minor art attack, because this is definitely
Speaker 4: a guy who would have been offer sheeted for sure.
Speaker 4: He was extended at five point five million for five years.
Speaker 4: So I like that deal. Very fantastic deal. I thought
Speaker 4: it was.
Speaker 5: I was I thought he was going to kind of
Speaker 5: push from for you know, six sixish, somewhere in the
Speaker 5: six million. But you know, credit to him and his
Speaker 5: agent and and to Sweeney, because I think that is
Speaker 5: a pretty pretty decent contract, and you know the fact
Speaker 5: that he and Pasta worked, Yeah, you came out together right,
Speaker 5: and honestly, you couldn't risk you couldn't really run the
Speaker 5: risk of having him Geeky potentially go off to another organization.
Speaker 5: Because I've said it once and I've said it a
Speaker 5: hundred times. If Pasta is happy, I'm happy, and so
Speaker 5: should the organization be happy, and.
Speaker 4: I think it's actually a very fair contract. I don't
Speaker 4: I agree. I gave up honestly.
Speaker 5: I thought he might use a little leverage to you know,
Speaker 5: maybe get a few more bucks. But you know what,
Speaker 5: credit to him because he said at one point during
Speaker 5: the season, when asked about his contract status, that you know,
Speaker 5: he really liked it here. And you know, maybe a
Speaker 5: lot of players say this because they're blown smoke up
Speaker 5: our ass, but he really liked it here and he
Speaker 5: wanted to stay here, and you know, why not find
Speaker 5: yourself a good landing spot. And who the hell wouldn't
Speaker 5: want to keep playing next to David Pastro?
Speaker 4: Now, what do you make of the five year term?
Speaker 4: I feel like that's kind of an unusual term length
Speaker 4: these days, because you're either getting a you know, two
Speaker 4: three year bridge deal or you're going all the way
Speaker 4: for the full eight, So we don't really see a
Speaker 4: ton of five year deals. What do you think of that?
Speaker 4: Thirty two? Yeah?
Speaker 1: How?
Speaker 5: How what is the length of Pasta's current contract? I
Speaker 5: wonder if that five year term has anything to do
Speaker 5: with that to kind of try to keep them somewhat together.
Speaker 4: That's a good question. It's probably close to the same
Speaker 4: time for expiration. I am checking it right, this sem
Speaker 4: David Pasternak is signed. Well, this only goes this only
Speaker 4: shows me through thirty one and it continues on and
Speaker 4: this would put him at I think you might be right. Yeah,
Speaker 4: let me check here on this his deal goes through
Speaker 4: the end of twenty thirty to thirty one, okay, so
Speaker 4: that kind of you know, and this is the same thing.
Speaker 4: They end the same year, so yeah, yep, although this
Speaker 4: thing says six years, so I could be wrong. There
Speaker 4: you go, there you go. That could have been from
Speaker 4: previous reporting.
Speaker 5: So I think to the majority of past his tenure
Speaker 5: here right, Yep, he's got he's got a solid line
Speaker 5: mate and you know what if you know, if they
Speaker 5: can become the next you know the comfort level that
Speaker 5: you know, Bergeron and Marshy had with each other, do
Speaker 5: it do.
Speaker 4: It every day all day? Yep? Yeah. And then of
Speaker 4: course the other big extension was for Mason Lorai. Uh
Speaker 4: he was an RFA with arbitration rights going and he
Speaker 4: just signed a multi year deal for three point two
Speaker 4: million dollars for the twenty four year old defenceman. What
Speaker 4: do you think of that?
Speaker 5: You really want my opinion?
Speaker 4: That's why we have a podcast, Maria, what you know what.
Speaker 1: I mean?
Speaker 4: Well, certainly again dig a little bit deeper in this one.
Speaker 5: It's an to me my thoughts on this, it's an overpay, Like,
Speaker 5: what are you doing given this kid three point.
Speaker 4: Two million dollars?
Speaker 5: It's surprising when when you said you yourself, GM said
Speaker 5: he clearly has things to work off. Yeah, okay, and
Speaker 5: now he had he had a significant regression, but the
Speaker 5: rest of the team did. However, I do understand he
Speaker 5: needed a pay raise, but three point two million. Yeah,
Speaker 5: you couldn't have said to this kid, you know, even
Speaker 5: if I might, even if it was a million dollars,
Speaker 5: swallow it at two and a half million. But to me,
Speaker 5: to me, that is where I think sometimes Don Sweeney
Speaker 5: makes dumb decisions.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm, I think.
Speaker 5: And again, people can disagree with me, and people can
Speaker 5: tell me you have no idea what you're talking about,
Speaker 5: and that could likely be true, but I can and
Speaker 5: share what my opinion is, and my opinion is that
Speaker 5: is an overpay. I agree taking that million and a
Speaker 5: half dollars okay, and set it aside for some other use. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I'm just saying, yeah, yeah, it was certainly higher than
Speaker 5: I expected, and my eyebrows rose and I thought immediately, wow,
Speaker 5: he's getting paid.
Speaker 4: Well, he's getting me, like Kevin.
Speaker 5: One of the worst plus minuses in the league. Thank
Speaker 5: you right, sign me up for that job.
Speaker 4: Yeah. And certainly, you know, being paid as an RFA,
Speaker 4: no matter what flavor of RFA, you are being paid
Speaker 4: above the minimum that you are required per the contract
Speaker 4: to be paid. Right, so he was due a pay increase.
Speaker 4: Being paid above that certainly is you know, your management
Speaker 4: showing additional faithful faith in you. And again, like you said,
Speaker 4: seeing a pay raise. I think he warranted a pay raise,
Speaker 4: certainly because there's something there. There is clearly something there
Speaker 4: and they just haven't gotten it out of him yet.
Speaker 4: But that seems like an insane deal. There was also
Speaker 4: a trade, not Bruins related, right before noon. Sam Lafferty
Speaker 4: has gone to Chicago, so that's another person from Buffalo.
Speaker 4: That Buffalo just keeps sending people away, So I'm sure
Speaker 4: he will probably do very well, although he is going
Speaker 4: to Chicago, so caveat. I don't know if they're actually
Speaker 4: interested in trying to get better. And then Montreal acquired
Speaker 4: Zach Bulldock from Saint Louis this morning for Logan, I
Speaker 4: don't know how you say his name? May you maybe sure?
Speaker 5: Can we talk about who were disappointed in that the
Speaker 5: Bruins didn't.
Speaker 4: Yes, who didn't tender the qualifying offers?
Speaker 5: Yes? Yes?
Speaker 4: Uh not gonna lie. This was the other person that
Speaker 4: we talked about in a recent podcast episode. But you
Speaker 4: know what, No, it's not that we don't know what
Speaker 4: we're talking about. It's the fact that to me, hearing
Speaker 4: that Jacob Blauco was not given a qualifying offer to
Speaker 4: return to Boston to me says what the heck? Again
Speaker 4: confirms the idea of what the hell is that is
Speaker 4: Boston's big plan because they're not being very upfront, they're
Speaker 4: not being very clear. It doesn't make any sense. Why
Speaker 4: would you get rid of the speed unless we are
Speaker 4: going to be wowed in the next you know, day
Speaker 4: or so, why would why for nothing? I don't know,
Speaker 4: Like I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It makes.
Speaker 5: That was a little kind of like just the point
Speaker 5: because as you said, you know, we we had our
Speaker 5: player snapshots and you know, talked about the players that
Speaker 5: were acquired at the trade deadline, and he was he
Speaker 5: was one of those depth guys that I thought right
Speaker 5: showed that he had, you know, speed, and he had
Speaker 5: some skills and a good, you know, good work ethic,
Speaker 5: and why wouldn't you have wanted to keep him again
Speaker 5: unless it was an instance of, you know, maybe the
Speaker 5: player or agent had a different sense of worth than
Speaker 5: the organization did, right, I don't know, it's a value,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 4: But some other big signings that well, I think they're
Speaker 4: just extensions that have taken place because we're still waiting
Speaker 4: on some dig big news yet these are all extensions.
Speaker 4: Connor Garland in Vancouver has extended his contract there for
Speaker 4: six years at a six million dollar cap hit. That's
Speaker 4: a twenty nine year old right wing left winger. Another
Speaker 4: big one down in New Jersey, Jake Allen, the goaltender,
Speaker 4: he has extended for five years at one point eight
Speaker 4: which is kind of interesting. Let's see, we have Logan
Speaker 4: stankovin eight year extension six million dollars in Carolina, So
Speaker 4: that's that young man is going to be set for
Speaker 4: a long time. He's only twenty two years old. He's
Speaker 4: only twenty two years old, so he's going to be
Speaker 4: there for a while. Martin Fairvari has also extended seven
Speaker 4: years for six million dollars in Washington. Lefty Thatcher Demco
Speaker 4: goaltender extended for three years at eight point five million
Speaker 4: dollars in Vancouver. What do you make of that, Maria?
Speaker 4: That your Demco twenty nine years old eight point five
Speaker 4: million dollar? Holy moly, are you kidding me? I am
Speaker 4: one serious.
Speaker 1: I just don't.
Speaker 5: Set the market, all right, I mean it, And again,
Speaker 5: excuse my ignorance, but is he on the same performance
Speaker 5: level as Jeremy Swayman?
Speaker 4: So I believe I heard recently, probably thirty two thoughts
Speaker 4: maybe someplace else, that they are interested in keeping him around,
Speaker 4: because I think they are. Vancouver is bringing in a
Speaker 4: new goaltending coach and they want him to work with
Speaker 4: this new coach.
Speaker 5: But you had to pay him eight and a half
Speaker 5: million dollars and he still needs to work with a
Speaker 5: goaltending coach. I mean, I just again, was it my franchise,
Speaker 5: not my money?
Speaker 4: But raight? Was it Thatcher Demco the one who got
Speaker 4: hurt with like the weird knee thing? Or am I
Speaker 4: thinking of somebody else? Was it him? I don't remember,
Speaker 4: I'm not remember. But even if it need your health,
Speaker 4: say it is and I think it is. So he's
Speaker 4: also coming back from you know, whatever serious leg injury
Speaker 4: that causes him pain that he's supposed to live with
Speaker 4: now apparently for the rest of his career.
Speaker 1: So it's a little eye opening. I mean, I just yep.
Speaker 4: Yeah. On a fun note, former Bruins legend tomash Nosek
Speaker 4: re signed or signed an extension with the Florida Panthers
Speaker 4: for the league minimum of seven to seventy five. But
Speaker 4: good on him, thirty two years old. Just want to
Speaker 4: Stanley Cup. This to me screams, I'm just here for
Speaker 4: the culture and the good time so I can play
Speaker 4: hockey with joy. I'm content there.
Speaker 5: We have a winning culture and I'm good with making
Speaker 5: under a million dollars. And again, you know, we could
Speaker 5: talk ad nauseum. You know, some of it might be
Speaker 5: you know, I know it's a tax free state, but
Speaker 5: I think if I'm a player, that is a consideration.
Speaker 5: But more importantly, you are walking in to a set organization.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, burd InHand, you know what, you know what
Speaker 4: you're getting right the old expression everybody's least favorite player
Speaker 4: in the league hands down. Tony di'angelo also signed an
Speaker 4: extension in New York with the Islanders for one point
Speaker 4: seventy five million dollars.
Speaker 5: So you know that that kid is like crap that
Speaker 5: sticks to your shoe, I.
Speaker 4: Know, I know. Well, the league does have an issue,
Speaker 4: a problem with actually shedding garbage human beings for good. Right,
Speaker 4: So he came back. They can't seem to get rid
Speaker 4: of Vander Kaine. Quinnville is back in the fold. So
Speaker 4: this is just, you know, your typical.
Speaker 5: NHL handling of the reclamation. Look at and I you know,
Speaker 5: I do believe in second chances. However, my determining factors
Speaker 5: is based on what you did for me to have
Speaker 5: to give you a second chance. If what I thought
Speaker 5: you did is so egregious that I want nothing to
Speaker 5: do with you, you're not getting a second chance for me.
Speaker 4: But that's just my how I think. All Right, Philadelphia
Speaker 4: has just the dalis Stars have a new coach too.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, who do they end up picking?
Speaker 5: They are hiring Glenn Gullitson.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: Apparently he's worked with the organization previously, because the post
Speaker 5: from the NHL is he's back with a star, So.
Speaker 4: Yes, yep, all right, it looks like Christian de Vorak
Speaker 4: has left Montreal and he is heading down to Philadelphia
Speaker 4: on a one year deal for five point four million
Speaker 4: dollars cap hit, twenty nine years old, twenty nine year
Speaker 4: old center.
Speaker 5: Oh and they let's see, Oh did we talk touch
Speaker 5: on this? The Montreal and Canadians and Saint Louis Blues
Speaker 5: made a trade.
Speaker 4: No, the Blues.
Speaker 5: Have acquired defenseman Logan Malu from the Montreal Canadians for
Speaker 5: Zach Oldock.
Speaker 4: Yep, that's gonna be a big one. That was right
Speaker 4: before uh noon, So there you go, and now we
Speaker 4: just wait patiently to see uh if Rockbesser he's probably
Speaker 4: the next biggest one.
Speaker 5: I think he's probably, in my view, maybe the only
Speaker 5: big big fish remaining.
Speaker 4: Yep, yep, So let's see Christian Vorak. We are marking
Speaker 4: him as in Philadelphia for what did I say? One year?
Speaker 4: Five point four million dollars? That seems like a lot,
Speaker 4: just a little just a little five or well there
Speaker 4: you go, reading patiently?
Speaker 5: Come on, yeah, there was so much activity yesterday.
Speaker 4: Well anyways, so tell me.
Speaker 1: Who do we have?
Speaker 4: Who else do we have left? Who hasn't signed? Who
Speaker 4: would be up for free agency? Let me pull up
Speaker 4: that list, and let's see because at this point, I
Speaker 4: think we have to assume that they have not been
Speaker 4: given any kind of offer, so we know there are
Speaker 4: a number of besides Jacob Blauco who has not been
Speaker 4: given a qualifying offer. We haven't heard any news about
Speaker 4: Cole Kepke, so I'm assuming at this point he is
Speaker 4: going into free agency. Viniella Terry is another one that
Speaker 4: I'm a little bit surprised that we haven't heard anything about.
Speaker 4: Parker Wotherspoon. I mean, I think we knew that that
Speaker 4: was probably going to be the end of the road
Speaker 4: for him if he didn't get an extension. Thoughts on
Speaker 4: any of those guys, I just let's wait it out.
Speaker 4: Let's wait it out. I mean, let's just wait it out.
Speaker 4: None of those guys like you know again.
Speaker 5: We yeah, it's a belt and you can't rebuild with
Speaker 5: what if you're going to rebuild, you can't kill everybody
Speaker 5: that you already had, right yeah, I mean.
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Speaker 2: So what is the NHL Free Agency and how does
Speaker 2: it work?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 2: New contracts are signed every year on July first. When
Speaker 2: a player's contract expires on June thirtieth, he becomes one
Speaker 2: of three kinds of free agents, restricted free agents, restricted
Speaker 2: free agents with arbitration, and unrestricted free agents. These statuses
Speaker 2: are determined by the Collective Bargaining Agreement or CBA. The
Speaker 2: CBA is an agreement made between franchise owners and the
Speaker 2: players association. It all starts with what's known as the
Speaker 2: twenty seven rule. If a player is twenty seven years
Speaker 2: of age or is completed seven accrued seasons, then they
Speaker 2: are automatically an unrestricted free agent, and they can negotiate
Speaker 2: their next contract anyway they'd like. If the player doesn't
Speaker 2: meet either of those terms, then they're one of two
Speaker 2: kinds of restricted free agent. RFAs are defined by the
Speaker 2: amount of time that they've played professionally their age by
Speaker 2: June thirtieth, in the age they sign their very first
Speaker 2: or entry level contract. By Wait, what's an accrued season
Speaker 2: versus a pro season and how are they different? Well,
Speaker 2: accrued seasons are used in the twenty seven rule. A
Speaker 2: single accrued season is defined as forty games rostered for
Speaker 2: skaters in thirty games rostered for goalies. Pro seasons are
Speaker 2: used to determine if an RFA is eligible for arbitration.
Speaker 2: A pro season is defined as a minimum of ten
Speaker 2: games played in any kind of pro league like.
Speaker 3: The NHL, AHL, KHL, or SHL.
Speaker 2: The number of pro.
Speaker 3: Seasons needed to become an RFA with arbitration rights depends
Speaker 3: on the player's age when he signed his first contract.
Speaker 3: Players who are between ages eighteen and twenty have to
Speaker 3: play at least four pro seasons, three seasons for those
Speaker 3: who sign at twenty one, two seasons for twenty two
Speaker 3: and twenty three year olds, in one pro season for
Speaker 3: those who signed at twenty four or older. If a
Speaker 3: player hasn't met these thresholds, then they are an RFA
Speaker 3: in must accept the qualifying offer presented. If they do
Speaker 3: meet these thresholds, then they have arbitration rights, which means
Speaker 3: they can actively negotiate their next contract, and if there
Speaker 3: is a disagreement, they can request a mediator to assist
Speaker 3: in negotiations. Players who opt to hold out as an
Speaker 3: RFA must have a contract by December first of that
Speaker 3: year in order to play in that particular NHL season.
Speaker 3: All RFAs expect to receive a qualifying offer this is
Speaker 3: the franchise deciding to hold on to the free agent's
Speaker 3: playing rights. All QoS must be at least one year
Speaker 3: in length, increase the player's salary by a certain percentage
Speaker 3: based on the previous contract's total value, and preserve the
Speaker 3: one way or two way clause from the previous contract.
Speaker 3: If an RFA with or without arbitration is not presented
Speaker 3: with a qualifying offer, they automatically become a UFA. Hope
Speaker 3: this helps make sense of the NHL free agency? Who
Speaker 3: are you keeping an eye on this year?
Speaker 5: So if you hear, if you hear someone else chiming in,
Speaker 5: it could be my one year rod granddaughter with any
Speaker 5: hot takes who wants to share.
Speaker 4: That sounds good. Well, while we still wait for any
Speaker 4: sort of huge blockbuster, And you know, at this point
Speaker 4: for our team, are you talking about our teaming? It's
Speaker 4: still pretty slow. It's still pretty slow, and we're sitting
Speaker 4: and waiting. I want to hear your reaction to the
Speaker 4: brad marshand extension and signing.
Speaker 5: Well, I don't think I'm surprised by the fact that
Speaker 5: he was going to stay there the way he talked,
Speaker 5: even in a drunken stupor. I don't even know if
Speaker 5: he's sobered up yet. And good for him because he's
Speaker 5: party in like a rock star. Absolutely, the money aspect
Speaker 5: of it is a great deal. Yeah, And I almost
Speaker 5: like flipping the bird with both of his Stanley Cup
Speaker 5: rings on at the Boston Bruins.
Speaker 4: What I was a little.
Speaker 5: Surprised at was the years because that'll and that'll bring
Speaker 5: him into what his forties. And yeah, I know Jackey
Speaker 5: players can play be you know. Yeah, but he's he's
Speaker 5: had some you know, he doesn't have chronic injuries, but
Speaker 5: the last couple of seasons or so, he's had some
Speaker 5: you know, surgery related injuries.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I definitely want to spend some time reading and
Speaker 4: learning a little bit more about his contract because I
Speaker 4: wouldn't be surprised if it's built in a very special
Speaker 4: way that sets him up for payment and retirement.
Speaker 5: So yeah, yeah, but a great I mean money money wise,
Speaker 5: like yep, Well, he a great deal for him.
Speaker 4: You know, he found himself a really good landing spot.
Speaker 5: Excuse me, somebody, he's got too many cucumbers in her hands.
Speaker 5: He's going to be you know, if he continues in
Speaker 5: the role that he served them for when they acquired
Speaker 5: him at the trade deadline, then he likely will be
Speaker 5: able to play throughout the length of that contract because
Speaker 5: he's not going to have to play those really hard
Speaker 5: minutes that he was accustomed to playing with the Bruins,
Speaker 5: which is every you know, his regular line pow will
Speaker 5: play penalty kill, you know, when you know the bench
Speaker 5: had gotten you know, when you shorten the bench, you're
Speaker 5: throwing him out there. The Panthers have so much flexibility
Speaker 5: with their core and their death that you know, if
Speaker 5: they need to give them a breather, they can give
Speaker 5: him a breather.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, and I think also if if you consider
Speaker 4: the fact, so his contract for six years is worth
Speaker 4: thirty one and a half million dollars. So yes, over
Speaker 4: six years, he's taking less money than what we've heard
Speaker 4: rumored was the conversation in Boston. But think about how
Speaker 4: many years he wanted in Boston. He wanted three years, right,
Speaker 4: Let's be honest. As much as I love Brad Marshan,
Speaker 4: there's no way that he is playing until he's forty
Speaker 4: three years old. If he does, and he can phenomenal,
Speaker 4: But what I think happened is some very creative thinking
Speaker 4: in terms of the accounting, because if you take that
Speaker 4: thirty one and a half million dollars and he does sign,
Speaker 4: he does play for three years, which I think that
Speaker 4: definitely I wouldn't be surprised if he plays for another
Speaker 4: two three seasons. If you were to take that total
Speaker 4: value and divide it by three, that's ten ten million dollars.
Speaker 4: So it is a better deal. He is getting paid
Speaker 4: more ultimately by Florida because again, every season, the cap
Speaker 4: is going to continue to go up. His five and
Speaker 4: change million dollar contract is going to become a smaller
Speaker 4: and smaller percentage of the cap. And he has guaranteed
Speaker 4: himself this money.
Speaker 1: So I was surprised.
Speaker 5: I thought, yeah, you know, and maybe he didn't get
Speaker 5: the opportunity to be offered more. But I bet that
Speaker 5: there would have been a team out there that would
Speaker 5: have offered him more than that. But again he had
Speaker 5: not for that about the considerations, right, good organization, a
Speaker 5: culture that he doesn't have to bust his ass trying
Speaker 5: to rebuild because it's already there. He's still on the
Speaker 5: East Coast, he's still nearby his family, quick quick flight,
Speaker 5: So you know, I mean, honestly, good for him, and
Speaker 5: you know this this second Stanley Cup all but guarantees
Speaker 5: that he'll be in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he might have.
Speaker 5: He probably would have should have get in there get
Speaker 5: consideration even before this second Cup.
Speaker 4: But this is like a no brainer now, right exactly. Hey,
Speaker 4: look somebody is in the waiting room. Oh hi Adrian, Adrian,
Speaker 4: welcome in.
Speaker 1: I okay. Ever, by the way, thank you. It was
Speaker 1: really bad last week and oh my god to take
Speaker 1: care of as you can see, reporting to you from
Speaker 1: an old timey jail, old tim jail. Yeah yeah, uh
Speaker 1: now I was popping in because uh I got tagged in.
Speaker 1: But Maria, you're back, yeah, back.
Speaker 5: But I think I appreciate the backup because you know,
Speaker 5: as we all know, you both have young children. Never
Speaker 5: know what I'm gonna have to say.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, yeah, of course, of course. Uh while I'm here,
Speaker 1: can you guys quickly tell me about this armitson guy?
Speaker 4: And uh wait, there's some breaking news. There's breaking news
Speaker 4: about Rockfesser. It looks like he is Was he playing
Speaker 4: for Vancouver before, Yes, so he signed a new contract
Speaker 4: with Vancouver. He's staying there. Oooh seven years, seven point
Speaker 4: two five million dollars. So there goes that one a.
Speaker 1: Lot of really long extensions I'm seeing. Yeah, well, we.
Speaker 4: Were speculating it's because the changes in the CBA that
Speaker 4: are likely.
Speaker 5: And also, you know what the other thing I thought
Speaker 5: of too, because you know a lot of the sports
Speaker 5: of money driven, as caps continue to go up for teams, right,
Speaker 5: what's to prevent these guys from, you know, potentially turning
Speaker 5: mercenary and then just stopping themselves around to the highest bidders, so.
Speaker 1: You walk them in at a low salary for a
Speaker 1: long term. Yeah not yep, there you go.
Speaker 4: But yes, Arbondson Maria. Oh, at least he doesn't have
Speaker 4: to worry about ending up with JT. Miller again, that's true. However,
Speaker 4: he does have to play with Evander Kine, so that
Speaker 4: that does Yeah.
Speaker 1: Thanks.
Speaker 5: So what did I say that Scott McLoughlin shared with
Speaker 5: me about hold On I can Yeah, apparently he has
Speaker 5: does shoot. Okay, yeah, he does shoot a lot.
Speaker 4: No, he's.
Speaker 5: Not an elite finisher. He has scored twenty plus goals
Speaker 5: five times. He can make things happen on the rush,
Speaker 5: and he's good on zone entries and something we all
Speaker 5: knew was a debacle all of last season five on
Speaker 5: five and on the power play.
Speaker 1: So so are we thinking second line for him or
Speaker 1: sounds like you described a second line guy but or
Speaker 1: or where do you seem slot again?
Speaker 4: Well, here's my take this season.
Speaker 1: Okay, And if you're repeating yourself, I'm no.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, no no.
Speaker 4: This is just something that popped into my head.
Speaker 5: Put these guys wherever they have the best chance of
Speaker 5: succeeding and contributing. I don't care at this point if
Speaker 5: it's first, second, third, or fourth.
Speaker 4: Yep, Okay, yeah, it seems like he's gonna be potentially
Speaker 4: one of those players. I'm reading about him right now
Speaker 4: from Sportsnet that he is effectively a cap dump by
Speaker 4: the Oilers, but it should provide him with an opportunity
Speaker 4: to secure a top six role with the Bruins. Despite
Speaker 4: averaging one oh six of powerplay ice time last year,
Speaker 4: he manages three points with the man advantage. If he
Speaker 4: can secure a bigger role in Boston, the thirty two
Speaker 4: year old Suede should be capable of pushing for both
Speaker 4: the twenty goal and forty point marks in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4: So that's of course the biggest question mark because at
Speaker 4: this point we've got so much unknown going into this
Speaker 4: season with a new coach. We don't know what kind
Speaker 4: of coach he's going to be. We have no idea
Speaker 4: what the hell management is up to are they? There's
Speaker 4: going to be a ton of young guys, a ton
Speaker 4: of new guys. Who's the captain? So can the leaders
Speaker 4: of this team get the most out of someone who
Speaker 4: has this potential? That's one in Boston sees.
Speaker 1: All right, I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 4: This time last year, I'm like, trust the process.
Speaker 5: This year, I'm like, no, no, no, any we know
Speaker 5: what the process is and it can't be trusted because
Speaker 5: it is named Neely and Sweeney.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I was thinking last night that I just,
Speaker 1: especially after the expected news of Marshand, you know, signing
Speaker 1: somewhere and likely Florida, because I don't know where else
Speaker 1: who would go? Carolyn off top of Carolyn and I
Speaker 1: talked briefly and I seculated it if we were going
Speaker 1: to get a chance at getting him back, winning a
Speaker 1: Cup and just coming home would have been a lovely story.
Speaker 4: I know, a happy ending, right I mean, and not
Speaker 4: in the way that everyone thinks. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Minutes after that discussion that became moot. But I went
Speaker 1: through the rest of the evening just realizing that, like,
Speaker 1: I just don't recognize the team anymore. I don't know
Speaker 1: who is left. It seems everything seems like it's down
Speaker 1: to the studs with the pillars of swimming McAvoy, Imposternach,
Speaker 1: three very expensive players that had, you know, okay seasons
Speaker 1: last I mean, must have saved a season. But they've
Speaker 1: just been okay. So everything else is just murky. And
Speaker 1: unless we're nailing somebody that's like a ten pole player,
Speaker 1: which the are, and it seems like there's those auctions
Speaker 1: are diminishing. Wherever we pick up WHOA just doesn't seem
Speaker 1: like it's kind of like, okay, let's see what you
Speaker 1: can do.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 1: Honestly, with the signing of Geeky, in my head, it
Speaker 1: just seems like we're hoping to land another Geeky two
Speaker 1: seasons down the road. Yeah, someone that's going to come
Speaker 1: in and blossom because there's nobody in front of them,
Speaker 1: right and but you know, with this arbage, I guess
Speaker 1: he's thirty two. Didn't know that, But okay, so that's
Speaker 1: less that's not a long term investment. That's kind of
Speaker 1: if you're looking for a little bit of age and
Speaker 1: grit Darren and hopefully someone that can set up plays
Speaker 1: and but yep, I don't know.
Speaker 4: Other breaking news, William Ecklund has signed a three year,
Speaker 4: sixteen million dollar contract extension with the Sharks. So there's
Speaker 4: that three years at five point six million dollars contract
Speaker 4: extension for the twenty two year old left winger. So
Speaker 4: that seems like a good chuck and change.
Speaker 1: He's also been.
Speaker 4: Injured, so we'll see. I'm re interested in seeing what
Speaker 4: San Jose is doing because between San Jose and Anaheim,
Speaker 4: thinking about all of these teams out there that are
Speaker 4: just basement dwelling teams, they seem like they're actually really trying,
Speaker 4: compared to like Chicago and Buffalo, who are like, hey,
Speaker 4: we're just here.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So I think that seemed yeah, Adrian, to your point,
Speaker 5: the only thing that makes me this whole process palpable
Speaker 5: is the fact that another original sixteen is in just
Speaker 5: the same state of disarray as we are, which would
Speaker 5: be the New York Rangers.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 5: No talk about talk about you know, our reclamation rebuilt
Speaker 5: project going on there. If we think we have issues
Speaker 5: with our GM, they're feeling the same way about Chris
Speaker 5: Drury as we feel about our management team, like where
Speaker 5: are you going?
Speaker 4: What are you doing?
Speaker 1: What is happening here right now? Yeah? Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I guess our if you look at the you compare
Speaker 1: our plates to theirs, ours was sort of like a
Speaker 1: mappable slow descent that we thought we might be able
Speaker 1: to pull from, pull up from, and didn't. The Rangers
Speaker 1: was just a nosedive, an unexpected, completely out of the blue.
Speaker 1: Nothing worked, and now they blow it up. Yep. And
Speaker 1: being someone that lives in New York and like will
Speaker 1: frequently log onto meetings in the mornings and working with
Speaker 1: Ranger fans, you could tell the tone of the meetings
Speaker 1: this entire season of like, you know, me logging in
Speaker 1: holding my Bruins mug and then like other people wogging
Speaker 1: in hold with the Ranger hats and just being like,
Speaker 1: you know, it's not good. So yeah, you're right, And
Speaker 1: it actually is funny because I'd forgot about them because
Speaker 1: I actually thought you were talking about Chicago. No, they
Speaker 1: don't care at of the original six teams are are
Speaker 1: screwed at this point, I know, And the league seems
Speaker 1: to belong markets that don't even have ice. So we've
Speaker 1: got two Florida teams, one in Las Vegas and Texas.
Speaker 1: I guess, you know, so it's like it it. I
Speaker 1: guess the.
Speaker 5: Master plan is working brilliantly, which is, you know, they
Speaker 5: brought these teams in and you know through various means,
Speaker 5: and I'm not saying there's collusion and stuff like that,
Speaker 5: but you know, the league loves nothing better than to
Speaker 5: have these small market teams. And again, these small market
Speaker 5: teams were talking about the Florida's, the Tampas, they were
Speaker 5: bad for a long period of time while the rest
Speaker 5: of us, you know, were raking and you know, having
Speaker 5: winning seasons and competing in playoffs and whatnot.
Speaker 4: But this kind of business is really good for the
Speaker 4: league because.
Speaker 5: You know, teams enfranchises like the Bruins, the Rangers and
Speaker 5: even you know, the Blackhawks, so the you know, the Canadians,
Speaker 5: their fan bases just love hockey. Ye, those buildings are
Speaker 5: as bad as a team can potentially get. Those buildings
Speaker 5: will not be empty.
Speaker 4: All right. Some more breaking news to UH two signings.
Speaker 4: One Bruins legend Dan Blidar his heading. He's going to
Speaker 4: Philadelphia for a two year contract with a three point
Speaker 4: three five million dollar cap hit and then details have
Speaker 4: not yet been reported by Sportsnet, but perennial Cup loser
Speaker 4: Corey Perry is heading back to California and he is
Speaker 4: allegedly signing with the LA Kings. So so we know
Speaker 4: who's going to lose. We know who's going to lose
Speaker 4: in the Cup final next year. Ye right, market.
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to see the appeals Corey Perry. I
Speaker 1: don't forty years old.
Speaker 4: I don't know, like I don't. I don't understand either.
Speaker 4: But here you go, Uh Corey Perry two l A. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I can't imagine uh what they're thinking.
Speaker 5: That.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's going to bring something, uh other than heartache.
Speaker 1: I mean, I tell you what, He's not going to
Speaker 1: bring a Stanley.
Speaker 5: Cup follow each team so they okay, yeah, well they
Speaker 5: may make the playoffs, they're.
Speaker 4: Not going to work.
Speaker 1: There's a polarity issue there, Like is any part of
Speaker 1: the Cup that's magnetic like Tory Perry brings an opposite
Speaker 1: charge and can't get near it.
Speaker 4: What did he come to after winning the Stanley Cup?
Speaker 4: What curse did he uh invoked after winning that one
Speaker 4: time in two thousand and seven?
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a curse at all. In fact,
Speaker 1: I think he probably got what you know, I think
Speaker 1: about daily, and there's not a part of me that
Speaker 1: that every post he's in is in her mind to
Speaker 1: the fact that standing in on the corner of you know,
Speaker 1: Welexington and twenty fifth Street in twenty eleven watching the
Speaker 1: Bruins play Game seven, saying please God, I just want one.
Speaker 1: If we just get one, I'll never ask for another one.
Speaker 1: We never got another one again, And the fourteen years later,
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I can't really get that angry about me.
Speaker 1: I said, I just wanted one, So, you know, so
Speaker 1: that's probably what happened to Corey Perry. You know, he
Speaker 1: just unfortunately keeps getting close and the universe is like, yeah,
Speaker 1: but you just said, just give me this one and
Speaker 1: I'll never ask for anything else. You don't get another one,
Speaker 1: he didn't word his Yeah, you gotta exactly exactly. So yeah, well,
Speaker 1: so all those those near Cup victories in Boston is
Speaker 1: my fault. As any true fan just blames himself somehow.
Speaker 1: You're responsible for.
Speaker 4: It, right right, Like last year I had to stop
Speaker 4: flying the flag altogether because.
Speaker 1: It was just making me exactly the one time he's
Speaker 1: got to hang you win and you're like, oh, you
Speaker 1: know exactly.
Speaker 4: Yep. I forgot once and they threw the whole season off.
Speaker 1: But no, I mean, listen, when I went to the
Speaker 1: Centennial game, I was like, you know, someone asked me, like,
Speaker 1: what happens if you pay all that money and they lose?
Speaker 1: And I said, listen, they have to win this game.
Speaker 1: If they lose every other game this season, I'm fine
Speaker 1: with it as long as they win the Centennial game.
Speaker 1: And they pretty nearly did so yeah, thanks man. Again,
Speaker 1: I keep I'm not I'm not helping to anybody here.
Speaker 1: I'm really sorry.
Speaker 4: We'll blame you entirely, but all right, well it is
Speaker 4: not you. Yeah, totally okay.
Speaker 5: So we can't blame last season on anybody but the
Speaker 5: players in the middle.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry. So yeah, yeah, yeah, oh he's not here,
Speaker 4: let's blame mo. Well, so we are sitting and waiting.
Speaker 4: We don't have to sit and wait too much longer.
Speaker 4: I have a sneaking suspicion that we won't necessarily hear
Speaker 4: anything from our boy Donnie. I don't know how that
Speaker 4: makes me feel, but we will certainly report out in
Speaker 4: future episodes. What happens, but our hour has gone about
Speaker 4: is any of us surprised?
Speaker 1: No, I guess not.
Speaker 4: I guess what.
Speaker 1: We didn't land anybody big.
Speaker 5: I mean I never think we were in any position
Speaker 5: to do so. Nor how attractive are we at this
Speaker 5: point in time?
Speaker 1: I know, yeah, yeah, I mean I think the things
Speaker 1: that we had going for us seemed to o eroded. Like,
Speaker 1: I don't think we can make this. I don't think
Speaker 1: we can stand on culture. I don't think we can
Speaker 1: stand on on winning. You know, the best bet shore
Speaker 1: is leadership. You know, it's yeah, it's kind of it's
Speaker 1: it's market like you can basically try to sell the market.
Speaker 1: But again you also, I mean, I think you're dealing
Speaker 1: with the front office that I that I don't necessarily
Speaker 1: believe in the negotiating power. I think that they believe
Speaker 1: one thing about their negotiating skills that are not true true.
Speaker 5: I watch the skills and I really, I really truly
Speaker 5: believe that cam Neely has a play card that he
Speaker 5: pulls out and he looks at and he says, Okay, right, Winger,
Speaker 5: this age, this is as high as we're gone.
Speaker 1: This is the max.
Speaker 5: They have their own internal values that they have established
Speaker 5: and they won't they won't budge from them. And I
Speaker 5: had another another thought too, about even their scouting staff,
Speaker 5: because I know how frugal that Jacob's family is, you know,
Speaker 5: and a lot of the players that wind up in
Speaker 5: our system turn out to be local players because they
Speaker 5: won't put the resources into allowing discounting staff to circulate
Speaker 5: in order to identify. That's just and I could be
Speaker 5: totally off base, but it's just something that popped into
Speaker 5: my head.
Speaker 4: Although it is it does help that some of the
Speaker 4: best college hockey programs are in Boston too well, which
Speaker 4: one right, that doesn't mean you pigeonhole yourself.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. I think there's a story that they like,
Speaker 1: that they like farming local folk, and perhaps they're thinking
Speaker 1: down the line that they can parlay anybody into like
Speaker 1: a hometown discount. But on the flip side of that,
Speaker 1: I think that they are building off what you said, Maria.
Speaker 1: I think that they also have this notion of them
Speaker 1: as being very shrewd negotiators. But their contracts, their last
Speaker 1: big ones, have been fairly bloated, you know. And I
Speaker 1: don't know whether I missed it earlier. What you if
Speaker 1: you guys talked about geeky. But it's sort of like
Speaker 1: that's you know, I mean, I guess it's I don't
Speaker 1: know how I feel about it, but it's like, it's
Speaker 1: a lot of money, right, And he had a he
Speaker 1: was hot the second half of one season, like a
Speaker 1: certain goaltender I could recall and again and probably themselves
Speaker 1: into a good payday. And and as I got that,
Speaker 1: I'm like, and what was the problem with Marshawn? Tell
Speaker 1: me why you didn't have money for him?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 1: Like I like you, you keep being like, oh no,
Speaker 1: we've got to do what we have to do, and
Speaker 1: we've got to be shrewd and we're going to Harbor
Speaker 1: Trac and bla blah blah. But its.
Speaker 4: Gek.
Speaker 1: These are expensive players.
Speaker 4: I hate.
Speaker 1: I don't want to cross sports.
Speaker 5: But sometimes their mindset and their approach reminds me of
Speaker 5: the Boston Red Sox front office in that they think
Speaker 5: that they are truly the smartest people in the room,
Speaker 5: and that the rest of us who listen and launch
Speaker 5: and read and follow the team don't know what we're
Speaker 5: talking about, and we should take everything they do was gospel.
Speaker 4: Yep, this is all very much giving. I don't know
Speaker 4: if you followed this news story a couple of months ago,
Speaker 4: when all of a sudden, all the socials were filled
Speaker 4: with videos of folks from China saying, Hey, your AIRMEZ,
Speaker 4: your Louis Vauton, your Nike whatever, that you're paying this
Speaker 4: you know, premium price on for this luxury good actually
Speaker 4: costs us like five dollars to make here and it's
Speaker 4: actually something super cheap and it kind of like, yes,
Speaker 4: in the long run, it didn't truly do damage to
Speaker 4: those high end products. But I feel like that's what's
Speaker 4: happened to Boston. That Boston was was a high quality product.
Speaker 4: What they had was special, and they kept trying to
Speaker 4: say like no, no, no, it's still there. And someone
Speaker 4: just came in from China and said, but we actually
Speaker 4: make that in our factory for five dollars, so really
Speaker 4: that's worthless. And people are seeing that now and it's like, okay,
Speaker 4: what do we have to offer?
Speaker 1: Then?
Speaker 4: If you know there's nothing special toxic culture, I can
Speaker 4: go to New York for that and I get to
Speaker 4: live in you, or I can go to you know,
Speaker 4: someplace else and like what and they'll pay me more?
Speaker 4: So why you know, what I'm saying, like, that's kind
Speaker 4: of how I feel Boston has gone.
Speaker 1: And it also says something that that the players I
Speaker 1: seem to remember the most out of over the last
Speaker 1: few seasons, of the people that were only here for
Speaker 1: one year. Yeah, you know, the like the the amount
Speaker 1: of the amount of one year turnovers we're having on
Speaker 1: a lot of principal positions, like like the cores eroded
Speaker 1: down to three guys, right, And and I remember more
Speaker 1: about the names of the people who don't play here
Speaker 1: anymore than the people that are kind of coming in
Speaker 1: and hanging out. I can't even remember most of them,
Speaker 1: you know, which, you know, when you compare that again
Speaker 1: to what has been built as a winning culture down
Speaker 1: in Florida, where the list of people signed for seven,
Speaker 1: you know, for for five, six, seven years now is
Speaker 1: like every single one of them is a difference maker.
Speaker 1: And I don't think we've got we don't have a
Speaker 1: lot in the tank. And it seems like we ought
Speaker 1: to have space to be pursuing these people, but doesn't
Speaker 1: seem like we're we're doing it, you know. No, And
Speaker 1: again I may be circling back on stuff you've already
Speaker 1: talked about. No, no, no, no, no, no no. But
Speaker 1: I mean it's just kind of coming in.
Speaker 4: We haven't talked about it today. We have talked about
Speaker 4: it in the plast I mean, it is what it is.
Speaker 5: It's part and parcel of you know, a lot of
Speaker 5: the reason why we find ourselves where we are, yeah,
Speaker 5: right now, and we could only hope, we can only
Speaker 5: hope that we have a mon at a more success
Speaker 5: than we did last season.
Speaker 4: And I don't think that's a big threshold to be looking.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think there's this, there's any silver
Speaker 1: lining that one could look at, is that you are
Speaker 1: you were truly starting from from almost saying the zero
Speaker 1: inertia at the beginning of this season, and a coach
Speaker 1: is gonna have to come in and go okay, like
Speaker 1: as a as an organization, you just got gut punched,
Speaker 1: like you've got you've really got no tread anywhere. So
Speaker 1: whatever happens now is someone that we've got to build.
Speaker 1: We're not coasting on anything, you know, kind of Macavoyd
Speaker 1: come in and say, no, good never comes from winning
Speaker 1: in October, as if something's going to happen, right, So
Speaker 1: hopefully everybody who is there goes whatever happens now is
Speaker 1: on us to make it happen. The culture needs to
Speaker 1: be rebuilt. And if everybody buys into the system in
Speaker 1: this in the Sturm system, whatever it might be, then
Speaker 1: maybe they can get something going. Yeah, and say, I
Speaker 1: don't think we're gonna win, you know how competitive will be.
Speaker 1: But like, what what I'm looking for is just something
Speaker 1: that's entertaining and engaging to watch. I want to see
Speaker 1: him crying, you know, I want to see and something
Speaker 1: to builds on, right, something to build on. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: so I guess in that in that case, it doesn't
Speaker 1: really matter, you know, who's on the ice, because it's
Speaker 1: not where it's trying to slot in a position to
Speaker 1: like it makes something happen. Were and and and by that,
Speaker 1: I mean it's not like we're looking for a couple
Speaker 1: of pieces too to put us in a position to
Speaker 1: actually succeed. It's like we're starting from here, so you know,
Speaker 1: show me what you got and hopefully it's I'm not
Speaker 1: going to get bored or frustrated or whatever.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: Well, so, uh yeah, with all that, why do we
Speaker 4: We'll call it a day? Kind of a fizzle of
Speaker 4: a free agency frenzy.
Speaker 5: For I was afraid that would happen with all of
Speaker 5: the activity that occurred yesterday because I saw a lot
Speaker 5: of social media posts about what a not that it's
Speaker 5: a bummer. It's exciting, but it's more fun when it's
Speaker 5: on the actual Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. It's like when all the Super Bowl ads
Speaker 1: come out before the game, it's like why why why baller?
Speaker 4: Yeah yep, But whoever ends up signing. Like I said,
Speaker 4: we will do some player deep dives, figure out who
Speaker 4: these guys are, maybe think about where we could see them.
Speaker 4: Plus we're going to be talking about uh development Camp
Speaker 4: next episode. We've got our very own Mary Beth on
Speaker 4: site at dev Camp this week representing Bruin's Tape to tape.
Speaker 4: If you remember from last year, she hopped on the
Speaker 4: show and gave us a real great rundown of those
Speaker 4: players and gave us a heads up on the players
Speaker 4: who showed up for rookie Camp. So she'll be doing
Speaker 4: that again for us. There will be some pictures and
Speaker 4: things also on our socials about what's happening there. And
Speaker 4: the last kind of housekeeping announcement, we're going to have
Speaker 4: a special guest for our one hundredth episode which is
Speaker 4: coming up in about two weeks, so make sure you
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Speaker 4: In the show notes and any final thoughts, Maria Adrian.
Speaker 5: Do have a final lot No, no, just give me
Speaker 5: a reason to watch hockey again. Just give me a
Speaker 5: reason please to watch the Bruins again.
Speaker 4: You know it all right? Well, thanks again everyone, and
Speaker 4: as always, go be
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