Long Live the Rat King 👑 Bruins Fans React to Game 1 | Ep. 94

0:00 Speaker 1: Happening now. Yes, all right, cheers the Brad Brad.

0:08 Speaker 2: Very special episode of Tape to Tape fifth evening.

0:11 Speaker 1: Yes, I live from uh not Pj's whole Field Club

0:16 Speaker 1: cammering with outside of Albany. Uh other Pj's to cross

0:21 Speaker 1: the street, the Dirk beer. That's the green place, green plate.

0:26 Speaker 1: Everybody hanged up, hanged up fifty feet from a highway,

0:29 Speaker 1: no matter where you are, that's Albany. Well, that's Albany. Yes,

0:34 Speaker 1: you want to call New York the concrete jungle where

0:39 Speaker 1: we're here to celebrate. Let's staying here. Yeah, the start

0:43 Speaker 1: of the finals, so real. Uh it's the uh new boss,

0:49 Speaker 1: same as old boss. We're gonna running back and do

0:51 Speaker 1: it again and we'll see whether not thinks are not

0:54 Speaker 1: differently this time.

0:55 Speaker 3: Yes?

0:56 Speaker 1: Do you think they've sort have keepen remotely?

0:58 Speaker 2: Actually imagine that they would be here today on off side?

1:03 Speaker 1: Are you asking? Are you asking me if anybody on

1:06 Speaker 1: the team anything going to turn out the way it

1:14 Speaker 1: it did? I don't think anyone would have, Like I mean, yeah,

1:17 Speaker 1: like if there was ever was a uh how it started,

1:22 Speaker 1: how it's going sample? Uh did I think that I

1:26 Speaker 1: think Berkshaw was going to be on the Panthers and

1:29 Speaker 1: and Frederick was going to be on a Stanley Cup

1:31 Speaker 1: competing game. No, no, I didn't. No, this is weird,

1:36 Speaker 1: This isn't This is definitely some darkest timeline ship happening. Yeah,

1:41 Speaker 1: and I'm deeply, deeply confused since I watch all this

1:43 Speaker 1: unfold and ah, so yeah, I guess I guess to

1:47 Speaker 1: answer your question and a not short way and all

1:49 Speaker 1: of No, I'm I'm more surprised if Frederick being here

1:54 Speaker 1: that I am in Markshaw being here, because I kind

1:56 Speaker 1: of forgot that Frederick went anywhere, and then all of

1:59 Speaker 1: a sudden it's like, oh wait, he's on Edmonton too.

2:02 Speaker 2: So yeah, and so how pissed are you going to be?

2:07 Speaker 2: In his name goes on that family come before David

2:10 Speaker 2: Foster or not.

2:11 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't. If you're asking me that I

2:15 Speaker 1: I have to. That's gonna require me feeling anything, and

2:19 Speaker 1: I haven't felt anything at all. But I'm dead inside.

2:25 Speaker 1: I'm not. No, I mean Frederick, if he left and

2:29 Speaker 1: nothing else happened, we would have solved the problem Frederick

2:32 Speaker 1: copying with us. It's the least of the least of

2:36 Speaker 1: the problems we tried. We tried to solve, and the

2:37 Speaker 1: least of the problems we ended up having as a

2:40 Speaker 1: result of a trade deaf. So I don't it's like that.

2:45 Speaker 1: I don't really think about him anymore. Stuff on our teeth. Jesus,

2:50 Speaker 1: you know, I still think that I harbor more conflict

2:54 Speaker 1: about Florida's presence here but in general, than I do

2:59 Speaker 1: about Fred being here at all. That makes sense, Explain, explain.

3:05 Speaker 1: It's a really good team. They my issues with basically

3:11 Speaker 1: everything with their uh with especially going back to Paul Maurice,

3:14 Speaker 1: who three seasons ago I felt was unsufferable. I know

3:17 Speaker 1: I can't deny as an excellent coach. I've had to

3:20 Speaker 1: undo a lot of my opinions about a lot of

3:22 Speaker 1: things regarding that entire franchise. I acknowledge that they're not

3:27 Speaker 1: a fluke. No matter who they shod, they seem to

3:30 Speaker 1: be able to come back and do it again. Yeah,

3:32 Speaker 1: but their strategy seems to also undeniably involved contesting one

3:38 Speaker 1: important person on every team they face on their way

3:42 Speaker 1: to the Cup finals. And I can't blush that as

3:46 Speaker 1: I watched them prepare to play tonight. At the same time,

3:50 Speaker 1: Brad's on the team, But they're also from Florida, and

3:54 Speaker 1: I am. I am deeply I'm deeply botched up no

3:59 Speaker 1: matter how I look at it. My safest my safest

4:02 Speaker 1: thing is just to be like, well, let's let's go

4:04 Speaker 1: fruit from McDavid. Let's see what happens. Yeah, always for

4:08 Speaker 1: Brad always, I mean again, I mean yeah, I don't

4:12 Speaker 1: know so I can't even remember when you asked me anymore.

4:16 Speaker 1: I'm just so confused. How did I get here? I'm

4:18 Speaker 1: on the side of a highway and all, Butody, what

4:20 Speaker 1: am I doing here? Anyway? What do you? What do you?

4:24 Speaker 1: The same question to you.

4:25 Speaker 2: Carolin Fields, really weird that this is where we are,

4:30 Speaker 2: that you've got these two players.

4:32 Speaker 1: Getting ready to play for the Cup in this situation.

4:36 Speaker 1: It's very weird to me. I don't like it.

4:41 Speaker 2: Because it feels like it's not that's not how it's

4:43 Speaker 2: supposed to be, right, And I also I have also

4:47 Speaker 2: started to Oh, I gotta say.

4:50 Speaker 1: I liked Florida. That's that's an interesticular, yeah, saying that.

4:53 Speaker 1: I don't know, let's explore that. Please tell me more

4:55 Speaker 1: of what would you like about Florida?

4:56 Speaker 2: I don't like Florida, but you said you started to like. No,

4:59 Speaker 2: I said, I'm not saying I'm starting to like them.

5:02 Speaker 2: I'm saying, uh, I dislike them.

5:06 Speaker 1: A little bit lost, And that's not facetious. I'm actually saying,

5:11 Speaker 1: let's explore them. Why do you like? Definitely I'll me

5:15 Speaker 1: a fear about that. How that makes you ask me

5:17 Speaker 1: how I feel? I mean, I think it helps that.

5:26 Speaker 2: No, they all didn't get in the way of Boston's

5:31 Speaker 2: chance this year, so that helps because they didn't end

5:36 Speaker 2: Boston's see things, so we were not on the receiving

5:40 Speaker 2: end of the dirty place, so that helped.

5:46 Speaker 1: I I like stories.

5:51 Speaker 2: I used to find him also completely insufferable, although he's

5:55 Speaker 2: gone back a little bit to like if it were

5:59 Speaker 2: a full circles, he's coming right back a little bit

6:02 Speaker 2: to the insufferable because of the whole handshake line thing, Like, fine,

6:08 Speaker 2: if that's what you want to do, I have no

6:11 Speaker 2: problem with it.

6:12 Speaker 1: It makes sense to me.

6:14 Speaker 2: It's and you know what, people can change their minds, right,

6:17 Speaker 2: He used to go through the handshake line. Now he

6:20 Speaker 2: doesn't go through the handshake line. Fine, But the the

6:25 Speaker 2: exchmed with Carolina and Rod Brindamore, I.

6:31 Speaker 1: Was not aware of the fact that it was him saying.

6:36 Speaker 2: Like, we are not going through the line, because that's

6:40 Speaker 2: what he did with like Rube. But ahead of time,

6:42 Speaker 2: they agreed, they agreed to it before the series even started, that.

6:46 Speaker 1: They weren't going to shake hands in the line.

6:50 Speaker 2: And then the gate the series ends in Carolina, and

6:54 Speaker 2: I guess he's telling Rod like, we're not like like

6:59 Speaker 2: we you and I are not going through this line.

7:01 Speaker 2: And he didn't like that, which like, yeah, I mean,

7:03 Speaker 2: first of all, surprise. Second of all, is your prerogative.

7:06 Speaker 2: You can do what you want. But as a coach,

7:09 Speaker 2: like I understand, you don't want to make or have

7:11 Speaker 2: the ampectation that like health equipment, man, if you or

7:15 Speaker 2: your trainer is necessarily going through the line to shake

7:17 Speaker 2: the other teams players. I get that, okay, And yes

7:20 Speaker 2: the players are priority, but the coaches were players most

7:25 Speaker 2: of the time.

7:26 Speaker 1: They know these guys and they have respect for these players.

7:28 Speaker 2: So if a coach wants to go through, if Rod

7:30 Speaker 2: wants to go through and shake Markov's head because he

7:35 Speaker 2: thought he had a great game, his right.

7:37 Speaker 1: To do that. So that whole situation kind of didn't

7:43 Speaker 1: care for that. Yeah, yeah, that's interesting. And just because

7:46 Speaker 1: they didn't used to do it.

7:48 Speaker 2: Doesn't mean that it was better. They didn't used to

7:52 Speaker 2: wear helmets. Yeah, they used to do a lot more

7:56 Speaker 2: clutching and graphic.

7:57 Speaker 1: So Maurice has been gone through any any of the lines,

8:01 Speaker 1: not this year, not this year, last year, you last

8:03 Speaker 1: year enough, and you can't even you can't even maintain

8:06 Speaker 1: it's a super system.

8:07 Speaker 2: I don't and I don't have a problem with it.

8:08 Speaker 2: Like I wouldn't call in a hypocrite for that. I

8:10 Speaker 2: wouldn't because people are entitled to change their opinions, to

8:14 Speaker 2: change their mind, right. Yeah, maybe he about it.

8:19 Speaker 1: It's like, you know what, I'm not going to do

8:21 Speaker 1: that or whatever. Okay, but that kind of a bob

8:25 Speaker 1: he's trying to make someone else also do that. That

8:28 Speaker 1: sounds like it feels like it's he's concerned about the

8:31 Speaker 1: optics of another coach going through and him not and

8:33 Speaker 1: what might be said after their factors.

8:35 Speaker 2: But if we already know, yeah, by the third round,

8:39 Speaker 2: everybody knows he's not going.

8:40 Speaker 1: Through, that's true for that reason. Okay, Yeah, that so

8:44 Speaker 1: I don't know. I thought that was kind of turned

8:45 Speaker 1: me off. Still do not like I don't like keep either.

8:52 Speaker 1: Take sure how do you know Keith. Sorry, I thought

8:56 Speaker 1: we were talking about somebody else. Never mind, I struggle

8:59 Speaker 1: with that. And also Pertusie, I have to call him

9:04 Speaker 1: Burt because I always want to call him Todd otherwise. Okay, yeah,

9:08 Speaker 1: so yeah.

9:10 Speaker 2: And I have more respect also for Bob as a goaltender,

9:15 Speaker 2: although I still think he was beatable last year.

9:18 Speaker 1: Funny about Bob, He's always beatable in theory, and then

9:22 Speaker 1: he just isn't. Yeah, I'm talk about a guy who's

9:24 Speaker 1: like more prone to going hot, Like I've never seen

9:27 Speaker 1: a goal, his entire reputations completely overpaid and watched up,

9:30 Speaker 1: and then he just turns it on and it is unbeatable.

9:32 Speaker 1: But history shows he should be beatable. Yeah, but then

9:35 Speaker 1: you but you're not feed them, So what is that?

9:37 Speaker 2: Okay, because the players, the team in front of him,

9:40 Speaker 2: I think is better. So if he's having an off night, yeah,

9:45 Speaker 2: but the team in front of him can basically cover.

9:48 Speaker 1: His sins for that game.

9:50 Speaker 2: Okay, they're gonna maybe lock down the shot attempts more

9:56 Speaker 2: so if he's going to be letting in more goals,

9:59 Speaker 2: but they they stopped more goals. You kind of it's

10:03 Speaker 2: a washy And that's how I think they beat the

10:06 Speaker 2: Bruins last year in the second round because the scoring

10:10 Speaker 2: bru and scoring right now, they couldn't score.

10:12 Speaker 1: And that wasn't because Bob. No, that was a problem

10:15 Speaker 1: we've been having for a large stunk of the season. Yes,

10:20 Speaker 1: but I mean it's you know, and when you talk

10:22 Speaker 1: about look Xac in the story this year and last year,

10:25 Speaker 1: you think about which goalies are overpaid. The legend of

10:29 Speaker 1: Bob is that he is no longer an overpaid goaling

10:32 Speaker 1: and swimming and cho Starkin ar Maybe.

10:35 Speaker 2: So happened though to Bob When he left Columbus to

10:40 Speaker 2: get his ten million dollars a year deal, Everyone was like,

10:45 Speaker 2: what the heck?

10:45 Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, that great. So who's fave veteran the veteran

10:51 Speaker 1: goaltender on an underperforming team that needed somebody to stand

10:54 Speaker 1: between the pipes? Yep. And I feel like it was

10:57 Speaker 1: it was paid that much to get him to go there. Yea,

11:01 Speaker 1: not because he felt like that was what I'm it was.

11:05 Speaker 1: I want him. I don't want to be in Ohio anymore.

11:07 Speaker 2: I want to be where the weather is nice year

11:10 Speaker 2: round and they're gonna pay me money.

11:11 Speaker 1: Sure, franchise, not not even the good one for the time, right,

11:16 Speaker 1: so like you need to sweeten the deal. But then

11:19 Speaker 1: I mean, they're top down, You've got the entire terrandigm up.

11:24 Speaker 1: The Florida Panthers has splipped where suddenly you're you're arguing

11:28 Speaker 1: whether or not Bob's that had been any dog? Are

11:30 Speaker 1: you never a ten million dollars goal tempt that wasn't

11:32 Speaker 1: I don't think that was the nature of the deal

11:34 Speaker 1: that brought there. You just said, you know, like and

11:37 Speaker 1: but now you're you know, now they're they got a

11:40 Speaker 1: stiff of being competitive. Yeah a few seasons ago and

11:43 Speaker 1: suddenly you're evaluating them like they're the Lightnings and they aren't. Right,

11:47 Speaker 1: they weren't.

11:48 Speaker 3: Well, they play a.

11:49 Speaker 1: Completely different game to what like the Lightning were.

11:52 Speaker 2: Everyone's talking about how oh in the last five years,

11:56 Speaker 2: no next year, the last six years that have gone

12:00 Speaker 2: through Florida. But those two teams I don't think play

12:05 Speaker 2: the same. Kina Pot like the way that the when

12:09 Speaker 2: Tampa Bay was that it's they were a much more

12:11 Speaker 2: They were more of an elite scoring team with a

12:15 Speaker 2: significantly better goaltender. Holda is playing like it nineteen ninety

12:22 Speaker 2: and I think that's because of Coke and bringing in

12:25 Speaker 2: and attracting players are aligned with that particular philosophy. Like

12:31 Speaker 2: I think what worked, Like that's a huge piece that

12:35 Speaker 2: I don't know that I've heard a lot of Rocky

12:38 Speaker 2: heads actually discussed in depth, is the power of the

12:44 Speaker 2: buy in and the culture for the player. So like

12:48 Speaker 2: Boston from twenty eleven until probably two or three years ago,

12:53 Speaker 2: that culture like, oh, everybody knows the culture, they want

12:55 Speaker 2: to be there.

12:56 Speaker 1: We all buy into it, and it worked, right if

12:58 Speaker 1: it's produced a team for like fifteen.

13:01 Speaker 2: Years, right, And then as we could all tell, as

13:05 Speaker 2: we talked about, as Maria mentioned back in the ball

13:08 Speaker 2: something's wrong in that losser room because something was happening

13:11 Speaker 2: to the culture of that team.

13:14 Speaker 1: And then you have Florida.

13:16 Speaker 2: I think that that's either Blue or that particular team

13:19 Speaker 2: that they all buy into this nineteen nineties style of play.

13:24 Speaker 2: They all like it, they're all good at it. It's

13:27 Speaker 2: completely different than the game that anyone else plays in

13:30 Speaker 2: the league right now.

13:31 Speaker 1: So they can beat that because those guys, the other

13:34 Speaker 1: guys don't know how.

13:37 Speaker 2: Play against that. They don't play that style. They're the

13:40 Speaker 2: only ones that play that style. And I just think

13:42 Speaker 2: that it is unbeatable. I don't know anything about Edmonton

13:46 Speaker 2: or how good they are.

13:48 Speaker 1: That's yeah, but I don't. I don't see anyone eating

13:52 Speaker 1: this team so famous last word, no, no, no, I

13:55 Speaker 1: would know. So I would to take what you said

13:59 Speaker 1: and is still it down like a nice it's new.

14:06 Speaker 1: If you were writing the story of this team darting

14:09 Speaker 1: three years ago of the Panthers, you would take a

14:12 Speaker 1: team that. Oh, all right, So before you even say that,

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15:18 Speaker 1: France, historically, even going back to twenty left, were vocal

15:23 Speaker 1: about chasing where they thought the league was gone. Yeah right.

15:26 Speaker 1: So the competing team in twenty eleven books similar to

15:32 Speaker 1: twenty thirteen, but very different than from the twenty nineteen team, right,

15:37 Speaker 1: and all of them and all of it. It was

15:39 Speaker 1: decided that the leak was moving away from the grinded

15:46 Speaker 1: out enforcer old time hockey stuff exemplified by feeling Sean

15:53 Speaker 1: Thornton to Florida. Right, and you were writing the story

16:01 Speaker 1: of these teams rated such that you can imagine Boston

16:07 Speaker 1: facing after a bus that is gradually pulling away from it,

16:10 Speaker 1: Yeah right, until they could no longer chase it, and

16:13 Speaker 1: they're left with where they are at now, whereas three

16:16 Speaker 1: seasons ago they get to Chuck go up against Boston

16:20 Speaker 1: and Maris loses it on the team and gets them

16:23 Speaker 1: to buy in on this. You know, clapshot Paul Newman

16:28 Speaker 1: full time hockey thing, yep, and why can't you play

16:31 Speaker 1: it this way?

16:32 Speaker 2: Right?

16:32 Speaker 1: And no one's really prepared for it. And now suddenly

16:36 Speaker 1: everyone's trying to be like Florida, where they haven't tried

16:39 Speaker 1: to be like Florida for the last twelve years.

16:42 Speaker 2: Well, and then makes me think of another thing. That's

16:46 Speaker 2: when Boston was at its yeat. That going back to

16:51 Speaker 2: that culture. That's something that no other team had, No

16:55 Speaker 2: other team had that, right, Florida has something that no

16:59 Speaker 2: other who can Yeah, and so you're visual of I

17:04 Speaker 2: just imagined Ton Sphoenie's facing after a bus. It's like, yeah,

17:09 Speaker 2: you're all these teams are going to try and emulate

17:12 Speaker 2: that style.

17:13 Speaker 1: But because it's all knock off, O good good?

17:17 Speaker 5: Yeah?

17:18 Speaker 1: Can I get an order of pries? Thanks?

17:21 Speaker 2: Nachos, I'm a pride speed number one fried pizza.

17:26 Speaker 1: It's not gonna lie. I was actually looking forward to nachos.

17:28 Speaker 1: Now I gotta do something. He railed. Looks like our

17:32 Speaker 1: season all plans. If you asked me when I walked

17:36 Speaker 1: in here, if I thought we would be ending up

17:37 Speaker 1: here by the side of the highway for the prom,

17:41 Speaker 1: I not in nowhere change in your order to fries

17:44 Speaker 1: leaving me just sorry please well means continue your thoughts.

17:50 Speaker 2: No, but like again, it's the teams that have something unique.

17:57 Speaker 1: Are the teams that I think can build and and

18:03 Speaker 1: build do build those mini dynasties. We're never gonna see

18:09 Speaker 1: dynasties like we saw already were based starting this week.

18:14 Speaker 1: Oh geez, don't don't get it out to yourself, but sorry,

18:20 Speaker 1: go on.

18:20 Speaker 6: No, but I mean, like, you know, decade, like you

18:23 Speaker 6: look at the halves from fifty years ago. Okay, that's

18:27 Speaker 6: never gonna that's you're never gonna have that again, right,

18:30 Speaker 6: or even four cups in a row for Islanders or

18:34 Speaker 6: Edmondon or whatever.

18:35 Speaker 1: Right, well, love for you, have a question for you

18:38 Speaker 1: when you're good.

18:38 Speaker 5: Yeah.

18:39 Speaker 2: So, like the closest that they can get in the

18:42 Speaker 2: modern era is like Pittsburgh's back to backgrounds or Detroit

18:47 Speaker 2: even had some the Devils had some, or Chicago the

18:53 Speaker 2: Bruins would have if they had won those cups that

18:56 Speaker 2: they didn't.

18:57 Speaker 1: Win, you know, And so Bruin should be like Chicago

19:01 Speaker 1: that they won. Most guys, yes, exactly, we'd probably we

19:04 Speaker 1: would probably still be exactly where we are now. Oh,

19:07 Speaker 1: but we may have two more cups. Instead we should

19:09 Speaker 1: have a bottom at least one more which sidebar.

19:13 Speaker 2: I thought for a long time that nothing was going

19:18 Speaker 2: to replace bitterness of the year we don't talk about.

19:24 Speaker 1: I got a couple of those whichun are you talking

19:25 Speaker 1: about twenty nineteen or twenty nineteen.

19:28 Speaker 2: And now I can say twenty nineteen, I talk about it.

19:32 Speaker 1: Because something worse as they're past that. Yeah, yeah, twenty

19:37 Speaker 1: nineteen sucks. That was more. But anyways, I mean, hey, listen,

19:40 Speaker 1: if you want to, if you want to tuck yourself

19:43 Speaker 1: a little bit about this whole thing. The for me

19:48 Speaker 1: wasn't you know you look at twenty thirteen. First of all,

19:52 Speaker 1: twenty eleven we won twenty twelve, what we lost to

19:54 Speaker 1: montre in the first round where I did not think

19:56 Speaker 1: we were releasing that that damn game and we didn't,

19:59 Speaker 1: all right, And then we go in twenty thirteen where

20:02 Speaker 1: we have Yoger instead of at Gauinla. But then twenty

20:04 Speaker 1: fourteen we had at Guinla and who got in the

20:07 Speaker 1: way of the puck and the net hit the puck

20:09 Speaker 1: square in the back of his shoulders against Montreal that

20:12 Speaker 1: went off. Brad marsham bag and then twenty nineteen run

20:16 Speaker 1: back instead of getting off the ice at the end

20:18 Speaker 1: of the first period. But in that first goal in

20:20 Speaker 1: that was Brad Marshall. Yeah, so I don't know, I

20:24 Speaker 1: still love him. I wish he wasn't gone, but it

20:27 Speaker 1: wasn't the center of a couple of Had he not

20:29 Speaker 1: been where he was, things probably would have gotten Like

20:32 Speaker 1: I chucked that up to the gods. Right, that's that's

20:35 Speaker 1: just Oh yeah, I know, Hey, it's gonna order food too. Yeah,

20:39 Speaker 1: I think I could have played Nacho Chicken. So I'm

20:45 Speaker 1: trying to be heart healthy. But earlier you mentioned Detroit,

20:48 Speaker 1: and I actually think that the words run is analogous

20:53 Speaker 1: to the Detroit because Florida played a system, yes, the

20:57 Speaker 1: same way that that Detroit did, whereas Edvington is uh

21:03 Speaker 1: superstar players that stand out there.

21:07 Speaker 2: There's nothing unique about them, right, Like they have McDavid

21:12 Speaker 2: and dry title, but like that's it.

21:17 Speaker 1: And you can't build a Stanley Cup, right.

21:22 Speaker 2: But you can't like build that dynasty on single players.

21:26 Speaker 2: If you could, then Vegas would have would have. That's

21:30 Speaker 2: why I think Vegas hasn't done anything, you know.

21:34 Speaker 1: I mean, I think there's a direct there's a direct

21:36 Speaker 1: comparison between You could draw a line between Edmonton with

21:39 Speaker 1: dry title and McDavid through Pittsburgh with Crosby and Malton yep,

21:47 Speaker 1: because like the majority of their their payroll goes to

21:49 Speaker 1: those two guys. You're just building a team around those guys. Yeah,

21:53 Speaker 1: they don't have I mean, unfortunately you got Stuart Skinner

21:56 Speaker 1: and you don't have Marc Andre Fleury. But even then,

21:59 Speaker 1: Mark Condrick Floria was questionable until he wasn't right, the

22:04 Speaker 1: guy that that couldn't catch a break until he caught

22:06 Speaker 1: four cups. So this could go, This could go either way.

22:12 Speaker 1: I don't know what to make of this series. One

22:16 Speaker 1: might think that that I mean, you can say they're

22:18 Speaker 1: gonna run it back and do it again. Yeah, it's

22:20 Speaker 1: largely the same structure. It's longly the same heroes, largely

22:23 Speaker 1: the same heroes, larger, the same systems. Maybe steam weren't

22:27 Speaker 1: a little something. I mean, I do think they're both better, Yes,

22:31 Speaker 1: I think they're a little bit more fire hardened as well.

22:33 Speaker 1: Edmonton certainly, like if they both.

22:36 Speaker 2: Got better to the same degree. Yeah, so my mind,

22:40 Speaker 2: that's still keeps puts Florida ahead.

22:42 Speaker 1: Perhaps the problem with Florida is that, without question, there's

22:51 Speaker 1: always one series where they where they get out ahead

22:53 Speaker 1: and then they start coasting. Like you can almost guarantee

22:57 Speaker 1: that there's going to be a point in time where

22:59 Speaker 1: they perceive them selves to be fine and they're not

23:02 Speaker 1: necessarily pop. Example, let's talk about last year finals, Okay,

23:07 Speaker 1: and then do you think they coasted in Game four?

23:11 Speaker 1: I think, well, I gotta I gotta go. Well, they

23:13 Speaker 1: were up three nothing and then almost flew the whole thing.

23:17 Speaker 1: They went down to nothing against Toronto, right, and then

23:21 Speaker 1: they uh, they pay They played Carolina right, up three

23:26 Speaker 1: nothing against Carolina and then suddenly they got blown out, right.

23:29 Speaker 1: I think I think they have a tendency to I

23:33 Speaker 1: don't know what it is, but they don't. One would

23:35 Speaker 1: think that a team don't like that would put the

23:38 Speaker 1: foot on the neck when they have the ability to

23:40 Speaker 1: do it, and they kind of do it. They kind

23:42 Speaker 1: of don't.

23:44 Speaker 7: But is it maybe because the players can do that

23:48 Speaker 7: are injured or like, like to Chuck, he's not He's

23:52 Speaker 7: obviously not himself and obviously not well mhm, he's a

23:57 Speaker 7: guy who would do something like that.

24:00 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm not talking literal foot on the deck I'm

24:01 Speaker 1: talking about, Like, let's interesting question, who do you think

24:07 Speaker 1: would get the murder on the open eye? Because Kentuck

24:08 Speaker 1: is clearly hurt me literally either But no, but like

24:13 Speaker 1: I honestly thought, I mean, here's the funny thing. What

24:16 Speaker 1: was the story of the last round? The story of

24:19 Speaker 1: the last round was Carolina on the verge of losing

24:22 Speaker 1: sixteen commerce final games in a row. Right, Yeah, so

24:26 Speaker 1: we're the ability to just demoralize another team. They're up

24:31 Speaker 1: three nothing? Why did they was that game? Why did they?

24:34 Speaker 1: And why did they go down to do nothing against Toronto?

24:37 Speaker 1: Like I that one didn't make sense? But that one

24:40 Speaker 1: did not make a lot of sense to me. And

24:43 Speaker 1: if we're back here we're talking about lessons learned. I

24:46 Speaker 1: don't know how you go up three games and nothing

24:49 Speaker 1: and almost lose it. Right, So clearly my mind's gonna

24:54 Speaker 1: my mind's very clearly going in that direction now that

24:56 Speaker 1: we're back in the playoffs again, to be like they're

24:59 Speaker 1: steamrolling through the opponents. But that Carolina thing was like, man,

25:03 Speaker 1: why'd you looks bad?

25:04 Speaker 2: You know?

25:06 Speaker 1: And and so there was I mean, to be clear,

25:08 Speaker 1: I never thought Carolina was going to come back, but

25:10 Speaker 1: it was like you had the ability to do something

25:13 Speaker 1: in and in kind of humiliating bro Bridimore, who was

25:17 Speaker 1: the he's about the last guy who the score ruggle

25:21 Speaker 1: in the in a in at a conference final when

25:24 Speaker 1: they went on and one that year, and now he's

25:26 Speaker 1: the coach, and it's like, I don't know. Yeah, I

25:29 Speaker 1: mean again, that's very small. That's a small thing. But

25:32 Speaker 1: if if any you're gonna look for any chinking forward

25:34 Speaker 1: his armor, you may look for it there. Because again,

25:37 Speaker 1: like I don't like, Edmonton is just not a it's

25:39 Speaker 1: not a team with a lot of personality. They're led

25:43 Speaker 1: by a man who's afraid of catch up. And I

25:45 Speaker 1: love it. Yeah, I mean you say he's afraid. I

25:50 Speaker 1: say he's still alive. So we don't know. Ah, here

25:54 Speaker 1: we go. But the dead silence is that the players

25:57 Speaker 1: have taken into the ice now, so look quiet now

26:00 Speaker 1: looking at the white ups, taking some time to admire

26:03 Speaker 1: the beards. Some of those are pretty uh yeah, i'd

26:06 Speaker 1: been David's tripping and I don't appreciate that. Well, he

26:11 Speaker 1: should know better. That's why they're gonna lose.

26:15 Speaker 2: No. I think the Carolina game that was another one

26:18 Speaker 2: that felt very much so like the gods were toying

26:22 Speaker 2: with everyone because that was the game.

26:24 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that was the game where the puck

26:27 Speaker 1: would never settle for Florida. It never settled, So that

26:30 Speaker 1: was in Florida, right, and it was bouncing all over

26:33 Speaker 1: the place. They could not make that thing do what

26:36 Speaker 1: they needed to do.

26:37 Speaker 2: And I'd said that in the discord and then the

26:41 Speaker 2: I think it is maybe the next day or whatever

26:43 Speaker 2: on thirty two thoughts.

26:45 Speaker 1: Literally one of them said, I don't know if you

26:48 Speaker 1: could see this on to me, but the puck was just.

26:51 Speaker 2: Bouncing everywhere, and I'm like you right, well, yeah everywhere.

26:57 Speaker 1: The gods have to give him month humble, I guess,

27:00 Speaker 1: I guess. So, uh, there it is the comp Have

27:03 Speaker 1: you been to the Hall of Fame?

27:04 Speaker 2: I have, Yeah, I have, although I think it was

27:08 Speaker 2: the fake cup that they have that right because it

27:11 Speaker 2: was summer.

27:11 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it makes sense and.

27:13 Speaker 2: I felt so I don't even know had it.

27:18 Speaker 1: I think it was in high school. The one thing

27:21 Speaker 1: to say about the Hall and I definitely want to

27:24 Speaker 1: go back because you don't necessarily realize until you were

27:27 Speaker 1: standing right next to it how much text is over

27:31 Speaker 1: every inch of that cup, not just on the rings. Yeah,

27:35 Speaker 1: around yeah, but around all the width and up around

27:39 Speaker 1: the cup and inside the cup there is every square

27:42 Speaker 1: inch of that bowl and all of the cylinders and

27:44 Speaker 1: rings are covered bit tight. That was gorgeous. Thank Yeah.

27:51 Speaker 1: It's kind of long because you enter into a enter

27:53 Speaker 1: it in the downstairs of the mall, which when you

27:57 Speaker 1: first like a mall, like what I think we would

28:00 Speaker 1: know and like in the United States, like there's a

28:03 Speaker 1: mall right there, Like, yeah, that's fast.

28:04 Speaker 3: It's like an.

28:06 Speaker 1: It's a small mall and it's like downstairs, so you

28:09 Speaker 1: think they're going into the basement of the mall and

28:11 Speaker 1: then you walk in and these exhibits, but but it

28:15 Speaker 1: goes I feel like it's walking into like an antil.

28:18 Speaker 1: Eventually you lose you lose track of where you are

28:21 Speaker 1: in this mall. Yeah, and then suddenly you're in this

28:23 Speaker 1: like vaulted cathedral and you're like, but I'm still somewhere

28:25 Speaker 1: in the mall. I don't know where I am anymore. Well,

28:28 Speaker 1: by that point you're in the whole bank, I guess,

28:30 Speaker 1: so we're in an old bank and all at that back. Yeah,

28:34 Speaker 1: really really quick, quite cool. But so that's my heart

28:38 Speaker 1: cell on going to the mall in Toronto, it goes

28:40 Speaker 1: to r exactly there it is. Here we go, we're

28:42 Speaker 1: yammering away Edmonds, you discorged the game eighteen fifty four. Uh,

28:48 Speaker 1: we go, we're off, Yeah, you're Caroline is so help

28:55 Speaker 1: beads on Florida wedding. Sometimes there one go for the

28:57 Speaker 1: series of motherfuckers. Hope everybody hustle. It's very far out

29:03 Speaker 1: of his street. There got a position. For get that

29:08 Speaker 1: that I chalk up to a defensive breakdown on Florida

29:11 Speaker 1: because there there for that, only too much blue around

29:15 Speaker 1: that crease. And then that one Florida.

29:19 Speaker 2: Was it a Florida defender who just went like flying

29:22 Speaker 2: like certain the tire job.

29:24 Speaker 1: See the guys, it doesn't well, it doesn't matter. You

29:27 Speaker 1: can't know he's so he gets tripped. I think he's tripped.

29:30 Speaker 1: She can't call that goaltender interference. He was tripped onto

29:34 Speaker 1: his butt, like where to god? Is it a goal?

29:37 Speaker 1: Even stop? I wish they had close cast to be clear.

29:41 Speaker 1: I don't think it's full tender interference, but I don't

29:43 Speaker 1: think I think part of it is also that, but

29:46 Speaker 1: only because he I don't think he really made enough

29:48 Speaker 1: contact with Skinner to make a difference. Yeah, this one's challenge.

29:53 Speaker 1: That's got to be g G. I you went down

29:55 Speaker 1: on a sewing. There was challenged because then Florida has

29:58 Speaker 1: a power player. Yeah, okay, Benethel on his own. I agree.

30:02 Speaker 1: I think Bennettel on his own because he didn't know

30:04 Speaker 1: that someone was there or that's the body part saying

30:07 Speaker 1: there because they had been to get a stationary Yeah.

30:10 Speaker 2: Well, regardless it was, it's still not goaltender interference.

30:14 Speaker 3: Right.

30:14 Speaker 2: If he falls, I give you fall like it's truly

30:17 Speaker 2: an accidental fall.

30:18 Speaker 1: Would that be considered so that we should save this

30:20 Speaker 1: for the intermission? I don't know. I don't know what

30:23 Speaker 1: the rules are. We needs the rules, and we have debate.

30:27 Speaker 1: Where are rules experts when we need them? Not just

30:30 Speaker 1: are good?

30:31 Speaker 3: I don't know.

30:34 Speaker 1: He's so angry, so angry, that's Whe'm going from. He's

30:42 Speaker 1: gonna stay in Florida. I don't know. If he wins,

30:47 Speaker 1: is that retiring? No, But if he wins, he may

30:50 Speaker 1: move cultray of homes. Oh no, no way, no way.

30:54 Speaker 2: I see him like we talked about the culture in

30:57 Speaker 2: the fifth he Yeah, he's that those.

31:00 Speaker 1: Are his people, those are his people. Yeah, And I

31:05 Speaker 1: think I don't.

31:06 Speaker 2: Know what if it was the just the sheer weight

31:10 Speaker 2: of the captaincy, because I think Mary Beth Puts said

31:13 Speaker 2: it in the discord that since leaving Boston he is

31:17 Speaker 2: playing like a cue weight.

31:19 Speaker 1: Has been lifted off his shoulders.

31:22 Speaker 2: And I don't know if it's just the general sheer

31:24 Speaker 2: weight of the captain I am recording.

31:27 Speaker 1: We're recording, all right, okay.

31:30 Speaker 2: Or if there was something else in Boston, like I

31:35 Speaker 2: think we all knew that he was not like Bergeron

31:40 Speaker 2: in the like the warm fuzzies department, right, And I.

31:46 Speaker 1: Don't know if he then thought that that's what he had.

31:48 Speaker 2: To be, and so he was trying to be something

31:50 Speaker 2: he's not and now he's back to being who he is.

31:53 Speaker 1: I don't know, but I got I got thoughts on this.

31:56 Speaker 1: I will dive on this till Marshaun is not the

31:58 Speaker 1: problem with the fucking team. He was like, you want

32:01 Speaker 1: to hang the entirety of of of a failed season

32:04 Speaker 1: around by sansday. I know you don't, no, no, no, no. Hypothetically, figure,

32:07 Speaker 1: why didn't you know what? You take the week a

32:09 Speaker 1: week goal skip scorer and playmaker that will not stop

32:13 Speaker 1: until his hips explode out of his body, fat back,

32:17 Speaker 1: and put them on a functioning team. That it's a

32:19 Speaker 1: system in place where everyone knows their role. And look

32:22 Speaker 1: at him flourished. A few months ago people were questioning

32:26 Speaker 1: how much he had his tank. Don't want questioning that anymore, so.

32:30 Speaker 8: I think, and I think that though that questioning happening

32:34 Speaker 8: further a couple of years mm hmm, like he just

32:38 Speaker 8: doesn't have it anymore and blah blah blah.

32:40 Speaker 1: But I sipper intata system. Then I think they had

32:44 Speaker 1: aunced him on wobbly lick. If you want to talk

32:48 Speaker 1: about the personnel there at m H do you want

32:53 Speaker 1: to talk about the birth? The personnel the berther on

32:57 Speaker 1: a birth are on law left.

33:00 Speaker 2: What he's telling me the my constructive team, some portly

33:04 Speaker 2: constructed team.

33:05 Speaker 1: It's a proably constructed team with questionable coaching and a

33:11 Speaker 1: team that was deeply, deeply suffering from the spindrome of

33:16 Speaker 1: the pearl that the copper tears. I I think I

33:21 Speaker 1: think that everybody thought it was gonna be okay, I

33:26 Speaker 1: get right, And you've got the only guy that remembers

33:31 Speaker 1: that it's not automatically guaranteed. It's the guy we traded

33:35 Speaker 1: to Florish. Yeah right, yeah, So as I listened to

33:38 Speaker 1: Even Morning in Broom not too long ago, about who's

33:41 Speaker 1: gonna be the next captain. Oh, I'd love to see maciplites,

33:43 Speaker 1: you know what? The guy I want as a captain.

33:45 Speaker 1: The guy that was that was overheard leaving a practice

33:48 Speaker 1: either last season or before the season a boor thing.

33:52 Speaker 1: Tighten it up, it's not good enough. And that Marshan.

33:55 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah

33:58 Speaker 1: over the guy that never happened, nothing could ever happened,

34:01 Speaker 1: was winning in his hotel, right, yeah, that's youth in

34:04 Speaker 1: an experience. Yeah, and the entire and and there are

34:08 Speaker 1: a lot of people being like, oh, was Marshan the

34:10 Speaker 1: problem guy? Oh I don't think that at all. No,

34:12 Speaker 1: No keeping people from moving up. Was he preferring batteries now,

34:18 Speaker 1: you know? Was he not the right man for the

34:21 Speaker 1: moment to meet the captain?

34:22 Speaker 2: No? No, because we saw how many times in this

34:25 Speaker 2: terrible season he literally was dragging them to the finish

34:30 Speaker 2: to a win.

34:31 Speaker 1: Yeah, until Aosta remembered how to finish a play sometime

34:35 Speaker 1: around g I new free Marshawan was the only one, right, Yeah,

34:40 Speaker 1: he was the leading sport was and in our pause

34:44 Speaker 1: we were saying he's the only guy carrying the team.

34:46 Speaker 1: And then Fosta starts scoring. Where did she know it?

34:50 Speaker 1: Picky moves to Pasta's line yep, and then suddenly, oh,

34:54 Speaker 1: how much how much longer do we have of Marshawn's

34:58 Speaker 1: good years? Should be continue to pay three million dollars

35:01 Speaker 1: while Martian's making well, while Macavoy is making a weapon,

35:05 Speaker 1: and you know Pasta was making what nine times making

35:10 Speaker 1: ten and change or whatever? Uh, we blew it. We

35:15 Speaker 1: absolutely blew it. Marsham's perfectly flying captain. Yeah, I'm one

35:23 Speaker 1: percent satisfied with everything he did on the Bruins. The

35:25 Speaker 1: only thing that happened was that they didn't build it.

35:29 Speaker 1: You didn't have enough left to The young guys were

35:32 Speaker 1: people that that were used to adversity or complete through

35:35 Speaker 1: it or do whatever. I what's kind of like, right,

35:39 Speaker 1: So I always like to compare a team to like

35:44 Speaker 1: the office.

35:45 Speaker 9: So I'm now hearing you talk about this kind of

35:49 Speaker 9: makes me wondering if the situation was like if you've

35:52 Speaker 9: ever worked for a stretch of time in a job

35:57 Speaker 9: that was really toxic.

35:59 Speaker 1: And with slowly like eating your soul.

36:03 Speaker 2: And you are still putting out, you know, high quality

36:08 Speaker 2: work because you've got a really good at work ethic.

36:11 Speaker 1: And you believe in it. And there are individuals that

36:15 Speaker 1: you work with on a regular basis that you still

36:17 Speaker 1: really enjoy working.

36:18 Speaker 2: With and like they make you know, the day okay,

36:21 Speaker 2: but you've got, you know, all this other toxic.

36:24 Speaker 1: Shit that you're dealing with. It kind of takes away

36:28 Speaker 1: your sparkle. And I think that maybe that's what had

36:32 Speaker 1: happened to him.

36:33 Speaker 2: And he got a new job and the workplace is

36:36 Speaker 2: amazing and it's eighty degrees in sunny every day.

36:39 Speaker 1: Nobody knows who.

36:40 Speaker 2: He is.

36:42 Speaker 1: Time.

36:43 Speaker 2: I know he's having fun at work again, and that's

36:47 Speaker 2: an incredible high when you experience. Now that's something that

36:52 Speaker 2: like a lot of people can that can like that

36:55 Speaker 2: could resonate with And that explains.

36:58 Speaker 1: A lot, I would agree. And the biggest example of

37:05 Speaker 1: that is Marshdown's point totals in this postseason. Because of

37:09 Speaker 1: that goal, he might still be leading the Panthers in

37:11 Speaker 1: points from the third fucking line in postseason. Yeah, Jesus, Yeah,

37:19 Speaker 1: I mean I think I think if you could, if

37:20 Speaker 1: you looked up the stats, yeah, because they're making a

37:24 Speaker 1: big deal that during the Carolina season for a series

37:26 Speaker 1: that he was leading the Panthers at one point during

37:29 Speaker 1: this point season in points. That's why I'd find you

37:32 Speaker 1: could say it's you can say it's pressures off, but

37:35 Speaker 1: you're probably one percent sure. I mean that there proved

37:38 Speaker 1: but the thing once and this is where it really

37:40 Speaker 1: came down to it. If he had his choice, he

37:42 Speaker 1: wouldn't have left. No, I don't think she wanted to leave.

37:46 Speaker 2: I think she saw the writing on the wall and

37:49 Speaker 2: decided to take ownership of his story and his experience,

37:53 Speaker 2: and she wanted a chance.

37:55 Speaker 1: For the pack. We got a Donnie rostart and I

37:59 Speaker 1: can't put this is the harder. But there's a little

38:04 Speaker 1: bit the dust up in front of the Loullie Bob, Yeah,

38:07 Speaker 1: Sam Bennett in the middle of it. It's gonna that

38:10 Speaker 1: was actually straptic right under the right Yeah yeah, uh yeah.

38:16 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I'm aligned with you one hundred percent

38:19 Speaker 1: with what you're saying. My main deal with this whole thing,

38:22 Speaker 1: it's that uh much like and and you've heard me

38:26 Speaker 1: to use this analogy before. It's like, this is when

38:29 Speaker 1: you break up with your girlfriend thinking that it's this

38:33 Speaker 1: is as good as it could be. Yeah, and she

38:35 Speaker 1: immediately starts dating other people. Speaking from experience, I'm just

38:38 Speaker 1: saying like, if you're you're watching a romantic comedy, this

38:42 Speaker 1: is the moment where you go, oh no, oh she

38:45 Speaker 1: did a glow up and she's never been happier. Yeah,

38:48 Speaker 1: and I still suck. It was the problem. Yep. He

38:51 Speaker 1: just went off and got married. You did, and you

38:54 Speaker 1: know what, and unlike Gray Book happy, unlike Ray Borok,

38:57 Speaker 1: I'm not going to be in the in the stands

38:59 Speaker 1: going I'm just so glad you happy. You're not you

39:03 Speaker 1: could have, don't. I mean, everybody with pork was like, oh,

39:05 Speaker 1: I'm just so happy. I don't know. Oh I didn't

39:09 Speaker 1: help with me. Just serves to be happy. I saw

39:11 Speaker 1: him give an interview. Did you see this recently? Did

39:16 Speaker 1: they called him? And he's like, I'm not gonna does

39:18 Speaker 1: a slap in the face to yeah unless they sign

39:22 Speaker 1: off on.

39:23 Speaker 2: I thought that was really respectful because I think, yeah,

39:27 Speaker 2: and I think you know, there are similarities between his

39:33 Speaker 2: situation and Markham's situation, but they're not identical. Okay, they're

39:37 Speaker 2: not identical. I'm sure there was to some degree, for pork.

39:42 Speaker 2: You know, I think he's what the longest serving captain.

39:45 Speaker 2: He was there for well twenty two years, not twenty

39:49 Speaker 2: two years, he was there for twenty one years.

39:52 Speaker 1: And as far as I understand the situation.

39:56 Speaker 2: Uh, she almost wrote the the post twenty twenty five

40:02 Speaker 2: fifty to the Panthers.

40:04 Speaker 1: Well that's Ray Marshall.

40:07 Speaker 2: You know, I think that was an amicable trade to

40:11 Speaker 2: give him that opportunity.

40:13 Speaker 1: I don't know if he had to say and where

40:16 Speaker 1: he was gonna go yep.

40:17 Speaker 2: But.

40:19 Speaker 1: I want him to win. I want Marshall. I'm not

40:22 Speaker 1: rooting for Florida.

40:23 Speaker 2: I'm rooting for Brad because he should have had his

40:27 Speaker 2: name on the Cup in twenty nineteen.

40:29 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I wish no billain Man. This is entirely

40:34 Speaker 1: a fault of the being and not recognizing what they had,

40:38 Speaker 1: not realizing the soh. I hope that he was not

40:41 Speaker 1: the problem with.

40:42 Speaker 2: I hope that Camny is doing in his deuces watching

40:48 Speaker 2: this postseason being like hmmm, yeah, I.

40:53 Speaker 1: Mean again, and I don't even really hanging around, Neely said,

40:55 Speaker 1: I don't. I think it was a full a full

40:59 Speaker 1: team collapse. I don't fault the people that didn't that

41:02 Speaker 1: don't have the goods yet, like Low where I was young,

41:06 Speaker 1: there are a lot of young people that are been

41:08 Speaker 1: very and there were a lot of new guys.

41:09 Speaker 2: Even though there were veterans, there were new guys like

41:11 Speaker 2: you don't like Sidorov said. He admitted he's like, look,

41:15 Speaker 2: I'm I'm a veteran, but I didn't feel like I

41:18 Speaker 2: had the rights too not to speak up, but to

41:21 Speaker 2: you know, take that leadership role because he was new.

41:24 Speaker 1: Like it's just like again in a company and you're new.

41:28 Speaker 1: You know, you may have leadership qualities.

41:30 Speaker 2: But you're not just going to walk in and be like,

41:33 Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you all how to do things here.

41:36 Speaker 2: Even though I started last week, nobody are It's interesting.

41:42 Speaker 1: But because I going back to you guys, uh you

41:47 Speaker 1: spoke with Mo and talking about the defensive stuff kind

41:51 Speaker 1: of started to figure it out. But I I will

41:53 Speaker 1: tell you, I'm not really interested into the Sidorov's take

41:56 Speaker 1: on his with the leaders that like granted your new

42:00 Speaker 1: on the team, Yeah all right, maybe you need to

42:03 Speaker 1: play well, try to figure it out. You think you're

42:04 Speaker 1: there at a very specific role. You're basically there for

42:08 Speaker 1: the postseason. But like him ending up in the box

42:11 Speaker 1: as often as he did, and then saying that at

42:15 Speaker 1: the end of the season. Yeah, it's like he's like

42:17 Speaker 1: a guy coming in being like, I know, I'm new

42:19 Speaker 1: at this company and I'm trying to keep my trying

42:22 Speaker 1: to keep my head down, so I'm gonna I don't exactly,

42:25 Speaker 1: it's like, well, maybe you want to stop tripping on

42:27 Speaker 1: that that fucking plug and on plugging the entire server

42:30 Speaker 1: three times a day. Start with that. You don't need

42:33 Speaker 1: to pop up, pop your head up in meetings, and

42:35 Speaker 1: we end lean in on on on the direction of

42:37 Speaker 1: the mission statement of this company. I'm miss asking you

42:41 Speaker 1: and not unplug the server every day time exactly. That

42:46 Speaker 1: might switches a sign that says do not turn off,

42:49 Speaker 1: and you turn it off two times a day. Stop

42:51 Speaker 1: doing that. But I'm so glad you're really thinking about

42:56 Speaker 1: what you might say in a company need. That's my

42:58 Speaker 1: take on siding off. Right now, that's sold on.

43:01 Speaker 2: We'll have to well, No, you were with us when

43:04 Speaker 2: we did our player review with him last August, right, you.

43:08 Speaker 3: And we were you there?

43:09 Speaker 1: No, you were you were undergrounds. Is there something wrong

43:13 Speaker 1: in the locker room? And why is it? That was

43:17 Speaker 1: my That was my statement in in like November.

43:21 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, no, we.

43:23 Speaker 2: Uh we were doing our uh trade acquisition uh clear

43:29 Speaker 2: profile and we mentioned in one of them that, well,

43:34 Speaker 2: we're going to have to do another player profile review

43:38 Speaker 2: of last year's free agency acquisition one year out.

43:44 Speaker 1: Because I think that Dora has grown on me in

43:49 Speaker 1: a surprising way. I did a better place with him,

43:53 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, because he figured out like everything most said

43:57 Speaker 1: about him was right around. He called him a lazy player,

44:03 Speaker 1: which is the hard criticism to level at any occup player,

44:05 Speaker 1: but he is. But he doesn't chase a play, and

44:08 Speaker 1: when he does, he chased it right out of position

44:12 Speaker 1: and exposes the goaltender. And it's back where I did

44:15 Speaker 1: like his game is when I would see him after

44:18 Speaker 1: the f one and simply just ride him into the

44:21 Speaker 1: corner away from the goalie. He's very good at that,

44:25 Speaker 1: and if that's all he did all season, I would

44:27 Speaker 1: be very adi. Yeah, well maybe and maybe that. I

44:31 Speaker 1: mean again, we're we're so we're so screwed. I mean,

44:37 Speaker 1: we're me again. Even started with the conversation about Mark

44:39 Speaker 1: Shawn and when and I use the right captain for

44:41 Speaker 1: the moment, like our our coaching staff outside of goalie

44:45 Speaker 1: Bop is just a wreck. The people drawing the plays,

44:49 Speaker 1: calling the plays, devising the strategies were never headed in

44:55 Speaker 1: the right direction for the entirety of this season, and

44:58 Speaker 1: so until we until we've got a new system in place,

45:05 Speaker 1: it is hard to really kind of evaluate any of

45:08 Speaker 1: these players on on their merriats, you know, I mean,

45:12 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, what was a great quote

45:13 Speaker 1: from Montgomery at the very beginning was that, like, I

45:15 Speaker 1: don't think you understand what we're trying to do here,

45:17 Speaker 1: and speaking about sidor Oh no, I don't remember that. Yeah,

45:22 Speaker 1: But at the same time you had a coach that

45:24 Speaker 1: was honestly out the door as well, So like where

45:26 Speaker 1: is the problem, right? You know which, again, the trade

45:31 Speaker 1: deadline comes like the people we dealt, you could make

45:34 Speaker 1: cases for all of this really comes down to, like

45:37 Speaker 1: I don't understand what the plan, but the scheme is

45:39 Speaker 1: at all anymore? You know, I think that a big

45:42 Speaker 1: I think it's been dropped in the lapse of Pastornach

45:44 Speaker 1: and McAvoy with the hope that it's going to figure

45:47 Speaker 1: that somebody's gonna figure something out. And I don't think

45:49 Speaker 1: that's what got you where you are now. Every time

45:52 Speaker 1: I see a clip of say Maurice, who's probably the

45:57 Speaker 1: most animated coach out there right now, but I remember

46:00 Speaker 1: when you found the one of him from two seasons ago. Yeah,

46:05 Speaker 1: in between period with like Kats getting down on the

46:08 Speaker 1: on the ground, It's like, maybe I feel like that's

46:10 Speaker 1: what this team needs. The team does not meet Paul Maurice.

46:13 Speaker 1: I'm not saying no, no, no, no no. Nobody needs

46:15 Speaker 1: Paul Maurice and Marie's household. It's arguable that does not

46:19 Speaker 1: meet Paul Maurice. But I think that that whatever coach

46:24 Speaker 1: comes next shouldn't be a hard ass like Katy and

46:27 Speaker 1: should not be a players coach like Monty. Yeah. I

46:31 Speaker 1: think it just needs to be a person that will

46:34 Speaker 1: pull the whole team out on masks. Did you do this?

46:37 Speaker 1: You do that this is the plan and convince them

46:40 Speaker 1: that they can succeed. Again, Yes they did, and there's

46:44 Speaker 1: nobody left in the room. You know, if Macca boys

46:47 Speaker 1: suddenly piped up and said, guys, this is call me

46:50 Speaker 1: to freedom, I don't know that it beneficssarily falls And

46:53 Speaker 1: it's very difficult for someone as gifted as Pasta to

46:55 Speaker 1: be like guys, just do what I do. You know,

47:01 Speaker 1: why did I score while sliding on my face? You know,

47:04 Speaker 1: which was the first half of the season. All of

47:07 Speaker 1: his goals came from like beautiful goal. Why is he

47:10 Speaker 1: you know, the sideways getting like away from the net

47:14 Speaker 1: and you know, calling on assass and doing whatever you

47:18 Speaker 1: can't folk he cannot carve a week. Yeah, that other

47:22 Speaker 1: people can very easily squat. And one of the reasons

47:25 Speaker 1: why I liked Marshaun so much as captain because he

47:28 Speaker 1: was a guy they didn't work twice it started to

47:30 Speaker 1: be taken after seriously. Yeah, and his entire career Yeah,

47:33 Speaker 1: and he followed through and yeah, and he never stop. Yeah.

47:38 Speaker 1: And if you're looking for any kind of example, is

47:42 Speaker 1: be the hardest working guy out there. Yes, That's why

47:45 Speaker 1: I knew from day one.

47:45 Speaker 2: I was like, he's the perfect person to be a

47:48 Speaker 2: captain because he's going to show people this is how

47:51 Speaker 2: are you have to work right to be on this team?

47:54 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and I I've heard the criticisms of oh well,

48:00 Speaker 1: at the very beginning, he was fevering playing with veterans

48:03 Speaker 1: over playing with someone like Hyceel and maybe he kept

48:06 Speaker 1: cell down too long or whatever. His job it's not.

48:10 Speaker 1: And also, who was the guy who was talking about

48:12 Speaker 1: was talking about Morgan geeking here? Oh by the way,

48:14 Speaker 1: I guess he was right, Yeah, because who what if

48:18 Speaker 1: Morgan geeky turned out to be at the end of

48:19 Speaker 1: this season, right right? Or something like Marsan who who

48:24 Speaker 1: had an entire career everything working his way from the

48:27 Speaker 1: fourth line, who needs to be seeing the questions level

48:30 Speaker 1: that someone like Babyan lives helping, like why is he

48:32 Speaker 1: need on this team? It's like, because you're asking the

48:34 Speaker 1: wrong guy. It's baby and Ysel why he's not on

48:37 Speaker 1: this team. It's not gonna get handed to you. Something

48:40 Speaker 1: is handed to you now your captain does not believe

48:42 Speaker 1: anything should be handed to you, So prove it right, right,

48:46 Speaker 1: And I don't think anybody in the And again you

48:49 Speaker 1: can make that. You can make the case that after

48:52 Speaker 1: the perfect season, right then meeting into your millennial season

48:57 Speaker 1: where for an entire year, I'm sorry, Centennial Millennium. Honestly, honestly,

49:04 Speaker 1: my problem is with Millennium. No exactly actually even remembers

49:14 Speaker 1: the centennial season where you had the Bruins greats parading

49:17 Speaker 1: in and out of your stadium every single day per year.

49:19 Speaker 1: Of course you're going to have like a honeymoon is

49:23 Speaker 1: over and hangover as you're trying to figure out where

49:25 Speaker 1: your identity is. But the solution to that is to

49:28 Speaker 1: work and not assume that those two seasons are are

49:33 Speaker 1: going to exemplify your entire career. Asked Tyler Sagan, what

49:38 Speaker 1: it's been like. Yeah, you know, he's barely gotten the

49:43 Speaker 1: sniff of another cup and he was the golden child

49:47 Speaker 1: of twenty eleven. Thanks for coming to my ted talk.

49:50 Speaker 1: What are you talking about? Oilers? So the period's over,

49:55 Speaker 1: period's been over, The game has been over three hours.

49:59 Speaker 1: Bartender is act really like flicking the lights? That's not true.

50:03 Speaker 1: It's past nine shots on goal fifteen to five, which

50:08 Speaker 1: I will say, but in favor of Edmonton.

50:12 Speaker 2: And I got to tell you watching the Panthers this postseason,

50:18 Speaker 2: that's a tell that they might not win.

50:23 Speaker 1: Oh okay, explore that. Yeah, if they're not aheading shots

50:29 Speaker 1: in the first period, you feel like they're not coming

50:32 Speaker 1: to play.

50:33 Speaker 2: I don't know that it's necessarily the first period, but

50:37 Speaker 2: in general, I've noticed so I think I said this

50:40 Speaker 2: on a recent a recent podcast episode where so we've

50:46 Speaker 2: been talking again about the trade deadline acquisitions and like

50:49 Speaker 2: our favorite stats that we immediately go to for like

50:53 Speaker 2: quick understanding of a situation and so like Fourria's favorite

50:56 Speaker 2: is plus minus right. For my favorite, like real quick

51:01 Speaker 2: is in game scots on goal. Okay, if I know

51:05 Speaker 2: the team well enough, I can tell that.

51:08 Speaker 1: Will often tell me, okay, what's that? What's the situation? Right?

51:12 Speaker 2: I guess I know it's not the end all be all,

51:13 Speaker 2: but for me it's my quick like temperature deals.

51:17 Speaker 1: And I've noticed with Florida all the games that day

51:21 Speaker 1: have won, they obliterate.

51:24 Speaker 2: The opposing team in shots okay, and they're actually being

51:30 Speaker 2: out shot kind of by.

51:31 Speaker 1: Like a lot, I think fifteen to five. So that's it. Yeah, yeah,

51:36 Speaker 1: you know I'd beinon as three.

51:37 Speaker 2: Times as many shots on goal. I mean, Bob is great,

51:42 Speaker 2: but again, as we talked earlier, Bob is he's about

51:46 Speaker 2: he's the most beatable great goalie out there. I think

51:50 Speaker 2: you thinking about all the great goaltenders that are in

51:52 Speaker 2: the league right now.

51:53 Speaker 1: So otter Hella bucks the stirkin. Yeah, he's the one I.

51:59 Speaker 2: Would get is the most beat took, like without considering

52:03 Speaker 2: the players in front of them.

52:04 Speaker 1: Okay, so that makes me a little bit worried, like ten.

52:10 Speaker 2: Does Florida have the ability to help him defensively well

52:14 Speaker 2: enough tonight? They have not historically, but those have all

52:19 Speaker 2: happened in well. No, the Tampa at Temple Toronto games,

52:24 Speaker 2: they lost the first two and they were out shot.

52:26 Speaker 2: They lost that one at home and they were out

52:29 Speaker 2: shot and had to go back to Toronto.

52:32 Speaker 1: Same thing in Carolina.

52:33 Speaker 2: So it looks like, uh, Florida has the momentum, but

52:40 Speaker 2: it's only the first period. Yeah, so they're gonna have

52:43 Speaker 2: to They're gonna have to up their shots for me

52:46 Speaker 2: to feel like they could.

52:51 Speaker 1: But again, there's still forty minutes ago. No, but I

52:54 Speaker 1: think there's something to what you're saying here. I'm gonna

52:57 Speaker 1: get tired. Yeah, those are the stopped he said. He's

53:01 Speaker 1: think like he's stopping. Yeah. How many shots is he like?

53:05 Speaker 1: Shot attempts? Because you have to be in the position,

53:07 Speaker 1: you have to be ready for a shot attempt. It's

53:10 Speaker 1: not like it's necessarily easier. I would I would say

53:13 Speaker 1: that to your point board. His game is essentially a

53:18 Speaker 1: lot of shots chaos in front of the day. Yeah,

53:20 Speaker 1: and his mother in the shot total would not indicate

53:24 Speaker 1: that that they're on their game. They have been, they're

53:29 Speaker 1: getting lot they've been getting quality chances. Yeah, those come

53:32 Speaker 1: when they come, but you can't depend on them. Although

53:35 Speaker 1: would you say that based on the shot count right now, Uh,

53:39 Speaker 1: Bob is hot? I think Bob is all right.

53:43 Speaker 2: Based on that different significant difference in shots, I think

53:48 Speaker 2: she's lunch and so maybe it's a again a hockey

53:53 Speaker 2: Gods situation because the Martian goal.

53:56 Speaker 1: I mean, he had an open net effectively. I also

53:59 Speaker 1: don't think that Skinner is a good goaltender. Don't like

54:04 Speaker 1: I don't like Chef.

54:06 Speaker 2: He's an NFL goaltender and he's had some pretty incredible games.

54:11 Speaker 1: Why are there so many young people here? Like, it's Wednesday,

54:15 Speaker 1: It's Wednesday, Wednesday, and all many folks come on down

54:19 Speaker 1: to be days. You're here with the youths exactly. So yeah, man,

54:25 Speaker 1: eventful first period? Yes, uh, I keep one more Skinner

54:30 Speaker 1: Skinners having Like, yeah, it makes sense he's having a

54:34 Speaker 1: skinner game.

54:35 Speaker 2: I feel like, so maybe the this will be an

54:39 Speaker 2: anomaly game where Florida.

54:41 Speaker 1: Has less fewer shots at goal. I mean, so the

54:46 Speaker 1: entire discussion about whether or not Bob is a hoh

54:49 Speaker 1: goalie or not. And if you'll apply that to Skinner

54:52 Speaker 1: more like a question it or not. Skinner is just

54:55 Speaker 1: gonna play. Okay, yeah, he actually gonna and it's was

55:00 Speaker 1: it not? Because right now it's three goals off eight shots.

55:02 Speaker 1: That that that's not good, bad, very most of those

55:06 Speaker 1: have been I don't know. It was pretty well screened

55:09 Speaker 1: on the Bennett one and uh marshaan wid what was

55:14 Speaker 1: this one? I even asked, but this one the borders

55:17 Speaker 1: it all alone? Well then that's on the defenseman. Oh

55:21 Speaker 1: my god, look at that? All right? Edmonton players falling

55:26 Speaker 1: into each other again, falling down. It's like a hole

55:30 Speaker 1: an ice full of pop for Notts right now. Oh god,

55:32 Speaker 1: everyone's just falling over instead of shooting. Edton seems to

55:35 Speaker 1: be playing like the whoa that he he? Wow? That

55:44 Speaker 1: one right up? All right? Edmnton just scored it about

55:46 Speaker 1: three to two. Two scored. But that guy, I have

55:51 Speaker 1: no idea. I'm not eat it up.

55:54 Speaker 2: That was.

55:56 Speaker 1: But they're kind of playing like the uh inexperience tonight.

56:01 Speaker 2: I think otherwise they've Edmondson's made a lot of really

56:04 Speaker 2: billy mistakes.

56:06 Speaker 1: I don't think I did an what anybody? Oh elbow

56:12 Speaker 1: did it and then did it trickle in? Let's do

56:14 Speaker 1: the I got an environment. Oh bad luck. That's a

56:21 Speaker 1: game book, it's a game now. Yeah, my dad says

56:25 Speaker 1: Bennett Stuck just went up third in. I don't like that, guy, No,

56:30 Speaker 1: I don't like it. Do you think you should say that?

56:33 Speaker 1: Phone me? Un positive? But I will ask you the question.

56:36 Speaker 1: You can think about it. A great episode of the

56:39 Speaker 1: fact that Abram was eating his dinner inches from alive,

56:42 Speaker 1: Mike h Bennett doesn't knock Sto wars out what happens.

56:48 Speaker 1: M still goes to seven games by tong Lan. We'll

56:52 Speaker 1: never know, We'll never know. I don't know. I don't know.

56:56 Speaker 1: I don't know either Stars was good.

56:58 Speaker 10: But I do think that, like yes, said a thousand times,

57:03 Speaker 10: goaltending wins cups, goaltending isn't the only thing, like yes,

57:08 Speaker 10: you have to have that can be the difference maker.

57:12 Speaker 2: And there's whatever is wrong with Toronto is it's at

57:17 Speaker 2: the core. And until they fixed that that you're not

57:21 Speaker 2: gonna you're not gonna see.

57:22 Speaker 1: Them go anywhere. I mean, I think the thing that

57:26 Speaker 1: I was hearing a lot of criticists of Toronto that

57:30 Speaker 1: there are team of individuals that that doesn't punct it

57:34 Speaker 1: as a team.

57:36 Speaker 3: Yeah.

57:36 Speaker 2: I mean that's kind of like our point about that

57:38 Speaker 2: culture where those teams where if that's what they are,

57:43 Speaker 2: they might only win one cup.

57:45 Speaker 1: Yeah right, Like that's what I see, And I don't know.

57:49 Speaker 1: But then again, I don't watch West Coast Hockey, so

57:52 Speaker 1: I don't watch enough for bounce. I would agree. I

57:56 Speaker 1: think Edmonton's got maybe one cup at them.

57:59 Speaker 2: Right, And granted in regular season, I only see Florida

58:04 Speaker 2: play four time, yeah right, and I see Edmonton play

58:07 Speaker 2: two times.

58:07 Speaker 1: But I know what kind of team Florida is. Yeah,

58:11 Speaker 1: I know. So I don't know. Maybe I don't know.

58:14 Speaker 1: Maybe I'm not wrong about it, but I would to

58:17 Speaker 1: think that I can pick up on a team on

58:20 Speaker 1: the kind of team they are fairly quick. I mean,

58:22 Speaker 1: my thing about god, I can't even talk about Florida

58:26 Speaker 1: this question promise like you lose a couple of people

58:29 Speaker 1: on Florida. Yeah, Florida still say it's Florida. Yeah, maybe

58:32 Speaker 1: without could talk, maybe without Bennett. It's to do a

58:35 Speaker 1: different feast. But her culture comes in, yeah, and it's

58:40 Speaker 1: so boring. But I think I mean what we made

58:43 Speaker 1: me raised, I raised the ship of THESEUS argument, yes,

58:47 Speaker 1: earlier with Boston, that too many pieces are pulled out.

58:49 Speaker 1: It's not the same thing anymore. Yeah, Florda's not there yet,

58:53 Speaker 1: but I know there are only two use your feet

58:57 Speaker 1: large components on adventure. Yeah, and if you lose them,

59:01 Speaker 1: he was one of them, right, probably the whole thing

59:04 Speaker 1: falls apart. Well, they've and they built around those two guys,

59:08 Speaker 1: and they did for a couple of.

59:09 Speaker 2: Games a little stretch at one point this year where

59:11 Speaker 2: both of them were out.

59:13 Speaker 1: The team wasn't doing great Bice, Oh how was that not?

59:19 Speaker 1: I sing, Oh my god? Oh the game has picked

59:22 Speaker 1: up speed, Yes, let speed, which it's a point bit

59:25 Speaker 1: dead air because there's a lot of back and forth

59:26 Speaker 1: going on right now. Yeah, thirteen minutes left from the

59:29 Speaker 1: second or to someth three to two, and they aren't

59:33 Speaker 1: catching up with their shots on goal.

59:35 Speaker 2: I will say, Edmonton, it is twelve minutes left and

59:40 Speaker 2: they only scored only shot once on goal and Florida

59:46 Speaker 2: has doubled.

59:47 Speaker 1: So that's huge.

59:48 Speaker 2: Yep. I will say, you know, watching some of those

59:53 Speaker 2: other games where Florida completely obliterated the opponent, primarily that happened.

1:00:00 Speaker 1: I think if Carolina, Like, yeah, those were boring.

1:00:04 Speaker 2: I mean they certainly would be fun if it was

1:00:06 Speaker 2: you know, my team were like, yeah, I love this,

1:00:08 Speaker 2: but it can get boring and I do much more

1:00:12 Speaker 2: so enjoy and appreciate a game like this where it's

1:00:16 Speaker 2: two very good team that's actually battling it out.

1:00:19 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, definite makes the sport the superior. Uh the West?

1:00:24 Speaker 1: For you? What was the best series? Feels like saw

1:00:30 Speaker 1: during this post? Mm hm, who watched a lot of

1:00:33 Speaker 1: hockey this? Yeah, that's hard to remember. I mean the

1:00:37 Speaker 1: first round is always out the top tier in my mind. Yeah,

1:00:41 Speaker 1: that's gonna be your best hockey.

1:00:43 Speaker 5: Uh.

1:00:44 Speaker 1: And I think I've watched quite a few, even of

1:00:46 Speaker 1: the Western ones, although not like this California series.

1:00:50 Speaker 2: I liked the Dallas Uh if they played first they know,

1:00:56 Speaker 2: or who played Saint Louisa when.

1:01:01 Speaker 1: That was a good series I watched?

1:01:03 Speaker 3: That was that was good?

1:01:07 Speaker 1: Yep, that was that's where they played first round? That

1:01:09 Speaker 1: was good.

1:01:11 Speaker 2: I think I really enjoyed, Uh, the Ottawa series. They

1:01:16 Speaker 2: did a great job. The what's his name, the hockey guy?

1:01:21 Speaker 2: He made an excellent point that if Ottawa had won

1:01:26 Speaker 2: a six, they.

1:01:28 Speaker 1: Would have won the series. And I think, yes, I agree,

1:01:32 Speaker 1: that was a good one.

1:01:33 Speaker 2: And then of course watching Toronto lose to Brad mart

1:01:35 Speaker 2: and I know, how could I not take that as

1:01:38 Speaker 2: number one? This is a good I mean, granted, we're

1:01:41 Speaker 2: it's ten minutes into the secondary, okay, one and I'm

1:01:44 Speaker 2: already pretty pleased.

1:01:45 Speaker 3: And I can't hear it.

1:01:47 Speaker 1: I trusts.

1:01:50 Speaker 2: Uh.

1:01:51 Speaker 1: We were watching a hockey game. We're not sitting on

1:01:54 Speaker 1: the side of the highways. Make it the stuff up

1:02:01 Speaker 1: as we go. Yeah, I can do that. I just know,

1:02:05 Speaker 1: sweet people wait for the highway forbid. I really liked

1:02:09 Speaker 1: the Dallas Winnipeg saves.

1:02:11 Speaker 2: Uh.

1:02:12 Speaker 1: The further we got into that, parts of that last

1:02:15 Speaker 1: game were, O, well that was Dallas probably that was

1:02:19 Speaker 1: wild the best game. Yeah, I saw, that's right.

1:02:22 Speaker 2: That one did go to seven because I forgot that

1:02:24 Speaker 2: Ben Edmonton feet uh, Dallas in five games and that

1:02:30 Speaker 2: was disappointed son six? Was it was it over time

1:02:35 Speaker 2: in six Dallas nurse Twinnipeg or was that SEVEI No,

1:02:38 Speaker 2: I think that was seven games and that was and

1:02:40 Speaker 2: that they'd go to over timer.

1:02:42 Speaker 1: No, Yeah, that was a wild, wild game. Yeah. Uh

1:02:47 Speaker 1: so for betting that one takes it? Yeah, well, I mean,

1:02:50 Speaker 1: there's a soft spot in my part because eventually Canada

1:02:53 Speaker 1: beats to one another cup they will let's say they

1:02:56 Speaker 1: have to, but they will. Well, they're gonna happen. It's

1:03:01 Speaker 1: gonna happen, just like don'yr it's well gonna die and

1:03:05 Speaker 1: can but alto I room for Winnipeg because it's the

1:03:10 Speaker 1: smallest Canadian bark hip and really, yeah, it's so small,

1:03:14 Speaker 1: and so I do think that it would actually be

1:03:17 Speaker 1: hilarious when like the smallest Canadian market is the one

1:03:20 Speaker 1: that actually find me went to Cuff and the rest

1:03:22 Speaker 1: of the could bees like, I mean, well, and I

1:03:30 Speaker 1: like the white out. That's kind of cool. It sucks

1:03:32 Speaker 1: that they can't, you know, Ella Buck needs to deal

1:03:35 Speaker 1: with his gifts, like his demon, my weird dear for gold.

1:03:40 Speaker 2: And then what made it was so disappointing for me

1:03:44 Speaker 2: about Dallas' conference series is then like the same damn

1:03:49 Speaker 2: thing happened to Otter, and I love Otter.

1:03:53 Speaker 1: He is practic that it's in the gifts of the outside.

1:03:57 Speaker 1: Well that was he was done dirty the way.

1:03:59 Speaker 2: That it was done outside of Boston, and with the

1:04:04 Speaker 2: retirement of Marc Andre Fleury, uh Otter is my next

1:04:09 Speaker 2: favorite full tender.

1:04:11 Speaker 1: I really like him a lot.

1:04:14 Speaker 2: Uh, He's got a little bit more personality and I

1:04:16 Speaker 2: just like, I like how he plays, and I've seen

1:04:19 Speaker 2: him do some pretty phenomenal things. So I don't know,

1:04:21 Speaker 2: I just kind of like am gravitated for it. I

1:04:23 Speaker 2: gravitate to him, Like, yeah, I wrote that mant.

1:04:30 Speaker 1: Calla buck I think is a little too theoria.

1:04:33 Speaker 11: I don't know, Yeah, I mean I think for someone

1:04:36 Speaker 11: who is as good as he is, uh tell yeah, perform.

1:04:42 Speaker 11: I don't know who it was that uh said it.

1:04:44 Speaker 1: Somebody on another pod callibuck in the postseason is what

1:04:48 Speaker 1: Boston fans think grasp was Yeah, And I wish I

1:04:53 Speaker 1: remember who said it. Wasn't me not taking credit for it,

1:04:57 Speaker 1: but that was a comment that I heard that maybe

1:05:00 Speaker 1: like put my coffee bug down as I was about

1:05:02 Speaker 1: to take a sip. It was like, yeah, yeah, that's

1:05:04 Speaker 1: that's yeah, it shouldn't be that way.

1:05:08 Speaker 2: And yet now I wonder who's gonna get that treatment

1:05:11 Speaker 2: now that like everybody has gone, who are they gonna picky?

1:05:14 Speaker 1: What the fans?

1:05:15 Speaker 2: Who are they gonna pick to just like you know,

1:05:18 Speaker 2: dump on like it was mac Chrislick and shake the brass.

1:05:21 Speaker 1: It was too crul like, who are they gonna give

1:05:23 Speaker 1: the Chris to figure out?

1:05:28 Speaker 2: Right? Right? Like they arguably will be like we'll see

1:05:31 Speaker 2: he's terrible because it makes one mistake, but at actuality

1:05:34 Speaker 2: he's really he's very good.

1:05:37 Speaker 1: Who was after Frederick? And I don't remember what he said?

1:05:40 Speaker 1: Uh now because replacement? Have you seen Freddie? I mean

1:05:45 Speaker 1: maybe he's probably out there. What's the number?

1:05:47 Speaker 2: Now?

1:05:48 Speaker 1: That's the thing. This goes right back to what he

1:05:50 Speaker 1: said at the very beginning. Good callback don't think about

1:05:54 Speaker 1: him right and I'm watching a bunch of blue shirts

1:05:57 Speaker 1: out there. I don't feel him. Now, why would you?

1:06:01 Speaker 2: He's someone like objectively tank yeah, like statistically, I mean

1:06:09 Speaker 2: in everything that I was looking at.

1:06:10 Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw this.

1:06:11 Speaker 2: In the discord, but at the end of the year,

1:06:14 Speaker 2: I like to do my player usage that so I

1:06:19 Speaker 2: run all the data through the bottle that I built,

1:06:22 Speaker 2: and it looks at the average time on ice and

1:06:27 Speaker 2: how they rank compared to other players on their team

1:06:32 Speaker 2: and other players not on their team based on if

1:06:36 Speaker 2: they're forward or defenseman and against other forwards and defenseman.

1:06:42 Speaker 1: And he was terrible, like he dropped off big time.

1:06:46 Speaker 1: In the last year. I was like, yeah, so he

1:06:48 Speaker 1: was never scratched, but then he was also not being used.

1:06:53 Speaker 1: Proved the point. But why we were all so pissed off,

1:06:57 Speaker 1: Like then, why is he resting for a game? Why

1:07:02 Speaker 1: is he sitting on that bench?

1:07:04 Speaker 2: Why is management again, to go back to your point,

1:07:08 Speaker 2: why is management not putting Providence players in instead? Because

1:07:15 Speaker 2: then if you are going to play a Providence player

1:07:19 Speaker 2: as much as you were playing him at least, then

1:07:22 Speaker 2: you're giving.

1:07:23 Speaker 1: This young guy experience sitting there on the bench with

1:07:28 Speaker 1: veterans and whatnot. I will ever really know why Frederick

1:07:34 Speaker 1: was given a pass when other people for crying out

1:07:37 Speaker 1: a loud.

1:07:37 Speaker 3: Speeky was bench.

1:07:39 Speaker 2: And even if you want to say like, oh he

1:07:40 Speaker 2: deserved it, sure, okay, and then he came back and

1:07:43 Speaker 2: he was a better player, So why then wouldn't you

1:07:45 Speaker 2: do the same thing to Frederick in the hopes that

1:07:47 Speaker 2: he would make him a better player.

1:07:49 Speaker 1: I don't get it. I don't I will always remember

1:07:52 Speaker 1: what the behind the beat? Where was it? Esposito was

1:07:59 Speaker 1: like watching a game from the box and point out

1:08:03 Speaker 1: like a Freddy fight and was like, pretty would have

1:08:05 Speaker 1: done well with us, you know, And I was like that,

1:08:09 Speaker 1: that's the guy you choose, like you want to take.

1:08:12 Speaker 1: You would have won more Cups if I could choose

1:08:13 Speaker 1: one guy from this squad right now at the back

1:08:15 Speaker 1: with us and guys friend Frederick, not Pasta, not even

1:08:20 Speaker 1: march On got during the lunch era, although that.

1:08:26 Speaker 12: Is his career would be over with now, yeah, because

1:08:29 Speaker 12: he would have had to retire.

1:08:30 Speaker 1: But I there's a part of me. I mean, and

1:08:33 Speaker 1: again I don't I don't go with the conspiracies or whatever,

1:08:35 Speaker 1: but like there just seemed to be this this thing

1:08:39 Speaker 1: where management maybe film from the top down, you're gonna

1:08:43 Speaker 1: force Breddy to be the player we wanted to be. Yeah,

1:08:45 Speaker 1: and any moment we get hey, yes, bo, you want

1:08:48 Speaker 1: to say something cool about Freddie while we roll on

1:08:50 Speaker 1: this for trying to make fetch happen. Yeah, can't make

1:08:53 Speaker 1: you can't make fred happen. I can't.

1:08:55 Speaker 2: I would like to point out that the shots one

1:08:57 Speaker 2: Bowl seventeen.

1:08:59 Speaker 1: There gonna win this game? Do you think they are?

1:09:01 Speaker 1: They're gonna have this game? They're gone back, they are

1:09:04 Speaker 1: there because.

1:09:05 Speaker 2: Edmonton has had two shots on goals right in seventeen minutes,

1:09:10 Speaker 2: sixteen minutes.

1:09:11 Speaker 1: That's not good. No, no, it's not. This is a

1:09:13 Speaker 1: disaster of a second period for Edmonton. I will say

1:09:16 Speaker 1: that if Edmonton makes it out of this period, yeah,

1:09:21 Speaker 1: it's anybody's game. I don't think Florida was prepared for

1:09:23 Speaker 1: the first I don't think Edmonton was prepared for the second.

1:09:25 Speaker 1: And if they go out of this period. But two

1:09:27 Speaker 1: minutes left, shots at seventeen, tied to two. So you're

1:09:31 Speaker 1: telling me, whoever scores the next goal, it's gonna win.

1:09:34 Speaker 1: I what I'm telling you is that whoever scores more

1:09:37 Speaker 1: goals the third period is gonna win this well, due

1:09:43 Speaker 1: channeling my John Madden listen, ever puts the punk in

1:09:47 Speaker 1: to the dead four times in the third period, we

1:09:51 Speaker 1: look like you're gonna win this game. Carolinian, Oh, I

1:09:54 Speaker 1: mean it boils down to the fact that, like I

1:09:57 Speaker 1: can't escape from the fact that, like I, I don't

1:10:01 Speaker 1: necessarily want a Panther's dynasty to be at things.

1:10:04 Speaker 2: But it already is at the end of the day. No,

1:10:08 Speaker 2: but it is to some degree. Three three troops to

1:10:13 Speaker 2: the Cup Final.

1:10:14 Speaker 1: He didn't But okay, yes, they left their mark. Okay,

1:10:17 Speaker 1: that's a legacy. I guess I would say that there's

1:10:19 Speaker 1: a legacy there, Yes, you know, uh, I mean I

1:10:23 Speaker 1: for for what Detroit did in the nineties, right, But

1:10:28 Speaker 1: if they I's the only one one of those times

1:10:30 Speaker 1: he wouldn't talk about the McDonald. I don't want to

1:10:33 Speaker 1: be old and gray and adulging that the Panthers did

1:10:36 Speaker 1: they still like I'm picking down the road. I also

1:10:41 Speaker 1: think that for for whatever it is, Connomic David should

1:10:44 Speaker 1: have a mean for Fox's sake, Jack Eichel as a cup,

1:10:47 Speaker 1: Jack Eichel as a cup, and CONNOMICC David doesn't. I'm

1:10:50 Speaker 1: gonna say that again for for anybody who's still listening

1:10:52 Speaker 1: to build Jack Eichel, who looks like one of ned

1:10:57 Speaker 1: Flanders kids fully grown, he does, Oh my god, I'll

1:11:02 Speaker 1: never unsee that. Yeah, uh, i's a snave on the

1:11:06 Speaker 1: Stanley cups and Conor McDavid doesn't. You will. But how

1:11:10 Speaker 1: old is uh? Trouble here? You have to check on

1:11:14 Speaker 1: your phone, check my phone. I think I will find us.

1:11:17 Speaker 1: I mean, I have no rational I have no rational

1:11:22 Speaker 1: way to back up anything I feeling right now and

1:11:24 Speaker 1: called the series, I'm gonna say existential dread it SIPs

1:11:28 Speaker 1: if my calling up, I don't, I don't even know.

1:11:32 Speaker 1: I just I think we're going to be tortured because

1:11:34 Speaker 1: the gods let laugh at us. I don't want to

1:11:36 Speaker 1: live the rest of the next couple of years wondering

1:11:39 Speaker 1: Brad Barshan goes into the hall as a panther, and

1:11:42 Speaker 1: if he starts winning cups with them, he may How

1:11:45 Speaker 1: does that work? I think you get to choose what

1:11:47 Speaker 1: jersey you were if you go into the hall. Folks,

1:11:50 Speaker 1: listeners are still here. I'm being extremely selfish and quite

1:11:54 Speaker 1: irrational here I've been. I've been confused since hegral. Anybody

1:11:59 Speaker 1: who's to talk to me, Vince then see me on

1:12:02 Speaker 1: the seal as done. I'm not the same man. I

1:12:06 Speaker 1: don't know what I need to do again. Nothing makes

1:12:09 Speaker 1: sense anymore. Well, I just learned today that Mikola's first

1:12:14 Speaker 1: name is Nicola, not not no Miko, not Miko. Was honestly,

1:12:22 Speaker 1: I thought you said the same thing twice. No, I

1:12:24 Speaker 1: did say, guys, his name is Ico, Noto. It's crazy.

1:12:29 Speaker 13: I just the name is Nico with an N, not

1:12:33 Speaker 13: Nico with an M. I thought it was Miko Mikola.

1:12:37 Speaker 13: All right, all right, that's how much I pay attention.

1:12:41 Speaker 1: So we're all learning things tonight. All right, how old

1:12:43 Speaker 1: is he's eight? He got, he's got, He's got at

1:12:47 Speaker 1: least a decade, you know, but he's here now. No,

1:12:51 Speaker 1: I don't know. I got mean, I got, Yeah, I guess,

1:12:53 Speaker 1: I got. I guess when it comes back, Dad, I guys,

1:12:55 Speaker 1: I'll skin in this game. I yeah.

1:12:58 Speaker 2: Well, it's like in the first like the first round

1:13:01 Speaker 2: is the best round and the fourth round is the

1:13:04 Speaker 2: second best round.

1:13:05 Speaker 1: Because especially in a season in the year when you

1:13:09 Speaker 1: don't have a team in the running.

1:13:13 Speaker 2: Watching the first round was the most enjoyable. Yeah, first

1:13:18 Speaker 2: round of hockey that I have.

1:13:19 Speaker 1: Experienced in over a decade. You know what, it wasn't

1:13:24 Speaker 1: stressed if the Bruins weren't in it. I could bounce

1:13:29 Speaker 1: from game to day.

1:13:31 Speaker 2: I could stop watching and not feel like I couldn't

1:13:36 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Right, I wasn't depressed after

1:13:39 Speaker 2: a first round. Yeah, that perfect season is the first

1:13:44 Speaker 2: time in my entire life where I was depressed for.

1:13:49 Speaker 1: A couple of days after watching a hockey game. Yeah,

1:13:54 Speaker 1: I mean, this is how naive I was at that

1:13:57 Speaker 1: point in time, because in my brain, that was the

1:14:00 Speaker 1: first season in a long tun right, actually was able

1:14:04 Speaker 1: to watch it almost every single game that season, and

1:14:08 Speaker 1: they did what they did. And that was also the

1:14:10 Speaker 1: year that my daughter discovered the game. And I remember,

1:14:15 Speaker 1: even though we lost, I was like, in my brain

1:14:19 Speaker 1: as that season ended, I was still like, I think,

1:14:23 Speaker 1: what a great time for her to start watching this.

1:14:25 Speaker 1: I don't think we're ever going to be bad again.

1:14:29 Speaker 1: And then so I don't know that I was absolutely heartbroken, yeah,

1:14:35 Speaker 1: at the end of that season, because I was like,

1:14:36 Speaker 1: look what we just you know, in the playoffs of

1:14:39 Speaker 1: the playoffs that anything can happen, and I don't know,

1:14:41 Speaker 1: And I think that the hangover continued to the Centennial season,

1:14:44 Speaker 1: even though we did make get out of the first

1:14:47 Speaker 1: and that one, still like what a season that was,

1:14:50 Speaker 1: like just so many crazy things to see, you know, Yeah,

1:14:55 Speaker 1: but now here we are now and everything horrible and

1:14:59 Speaker 1: and I'm emotionally dead inside. So that's that's where I'm at.

1:15:02 Speaker 2: You know, they're gonna pull Skinner, And clearly based on

1:15:05 Speaker 2: how the second period has gone for that and for

1:15:09 Speaker 2: this this period, the third period has started to build.

1:15:12 Speaker 1: For that, Yeah, the defense is just not there anymore.

1:15:16 Speaker 2: Like since the end of the first period they have

1:15:20 Speaker 2: we gotten one five, seven, more chats on goal, so

1:15:25 Speaker 2: they're not moving in the direction that they need to

1:15:28 Speaker 2: be moving it still and the fact that Florida has

1:15:32 Speaker 2: gotten twenty more sat Yeah, and there is no sustained

1:15:39 Speaker 2: pressure and admitted offensive zone. Now this is a lot

1:15:44 Speaker 2: of in and out and yeah, looking very familiar to me.

1:15:49 Speaker 1: Yes. Uh, the once they pull skinner, I mean they're

1:15:52 Speaker 1: gonna be cooked. You're basically it's something the third deck.

1:15:55 Speaker 1: They should just pull it down. Yeah, right, just end it. Yeah,

1:15:59 Speaker 1: and you know what, I also, that is amazing one

1:16:03 Speaker 1: Infanton player. It's across the blue line. Four panthers on

1:16:08 Speaker 1: the check him at the same time. Yeah, and it's

1:16:11 Speaker 1: back out of the back, out of the out of

1:16:13 Speaker 1: the head, back out of it admits it's uh, it's nice.

1:16:16 Speaker 1: That was that's Florida hockey fort Oh oh oh whoa,

1:16:26 Speaker 1: oh all right, I okay. They did say whoever scored

1:16:31 Speaker 1: the next goal is probably gonna win. Okay, don't like this.

1:16:35 Speaker 1: It's been a game four shots. Yep, it's been weirdly lopsided. Uh,

1:16:42 Speaker 1: that was buddy, this was built wether. I don't know

1:16:45 Speaker 1: if you can say it's lucky. Caroline, you and I

1:16:48 Speaker 1: both saw this you called it two seconds before it happened.

1:16:52 Speaker 1: That wasn't a fluke, that was a that was a breakdown. Yeah,

1:16:56 Speaker 1: and the guy was very needed to be very good.

1:17:00 Speaker 2: Well up side ye again, same as their previous cool

1:17:05 Speaker 2: look strapped kicking them out of the circle.

1:17:08 Speaker 1: You live, okay, Yeah, I don't care for that. Hey,

1:17:13 Speaker 1: look there's the burge round guy. So is he there

1:17:17 Speaker 1: for Brad?

1:17:18 Speaker 3: Or is there?

1:17:20 Speaker 1: I don't know what's it there for you. No one

1:17:24 Speaker 1: is going to show up and root for trench record.

1:17:25 Speaker 1: Run stop talking. I just stop that sentence. Yeah I

1:17:31 Speaker 1: did not. Maybe Adrian won't pick up on that. I'm

1:17:33 Speaker 1: gonna wat that slide. I'm not finding that slide that

1:17:37 Speaker 1: it is Patrice And he's like, Brad hies me, oh

1:17:40 Speaker 1: my god, Yeah, I've been been. Definitely looks like they're

1:17:42 Speaker 1: working harder. It's great. Well yeah that kind of gave

1:17:44 Speaker 1: him some light. Yeah. Every every ten minutes I dripped

1:17:48 Speaker 1: back into wistfully talking about Brad Marshall and was like, no,

1:17:51 Speaker 1: you sound pathetic. Let's picture we get this on air.

1:17:54 Speaker 1: So my main thing is the way in the circumstances

1:17:58 Speaker 1: under under all right, let me let me pay this

1:18:01 Speaker 1: out five years from now he's retired, he comes back

1:18:04 Speaker 1: to the fold. I'm fine, Ultimately, it's fine mine, I

1:18:08 Speaker 1: mean mine do right. Yeah. My main thing is if

1:18:14 Speaker 1: he decides that it was bad enough that he's like,

1:18:17 Speaker 1: I'm good, don't need to come back, right. My main

1:18:21 Speaker 1: thing is, like you will get who it was those

1:18:24 Speaker 1: who we accent the centennial thing. Thornton wasn't there, right,

1:18:30 Speaker 1: and so for everything he meant to the franchise, if

1:18:34 Speaker 1: he's not, you know, guest appearing on Nessen and hanging

1:18:38 Speaker 1: out with the rest of the boys over this, that

1:18:41 Speaker 1: is a loss that extends beyond saying that it's a

1:18:45 Speaker 1: business and you got to think about the picture. No, no, no, no, no,

1:18:48 Speaker 1: there is there's unrealized value and a personality like him.

1:18:55 Speaker 2: Before they did it, I said they would be insane

1:18:57 Speaker 2: to do it because the long damp.

1:19:02 Speaker 1: Amptimes I mean, you sound like very long rant work before.

1:19:11 Speaker 2: He was treated away young enough that he also had

1:19:15 Speaker 2: a highed career in San Jose. How many years was

1:19:20 Speaker 2: he there versus in Boston.

1:19:22 Speaker 1: Oh, you're right, right, and yeah, that's that's a very

1:19:25 Speaker 1: purer point. But they were bringing everybody like they brought

1:19:29 Speaker 1: so many people back and you know that that was

1:19:33 Speaker 1: my that was my thing.

1:19:34 Speaker 5: I was like I.

1:19:37 Speaker 1: Was, and it's get at and then it's to go.

1:19:39 Speaker 1: Then it's to go.

1:19:41 Speaker 2: So believe they'll be pulling skater Eddy bolberga well not anymore.

1:19:45 Speaker 2: Un last Florida can get one dagger. It bends on

1:19:49 Speaker 2: how tired Bob, and he's pretty busy early on. So

1:19:53 Speaker 2: the first game's gotta be one of the most difficult.

1:19:57 Speaker 2: Didn't get ready for and release start because of.

1:20:01 Speaker 1: All the oh are you here to mourn with us?

1:20:04 Speaker 5: There?

1:20:04 Speaker 2: We are.

1:20:07 Speaker 1: Here for bread, Yeah, here for bread. Yeah, okay, you're

1:20:11 Speaker 1: here for Brad. You know what so much to me

1:20:12 Speaker 1: last night he said, I'm just getting into hockey. I like,

1:20:15 Speaker 1: that's what of Panthers I think?

1:20:16 Speaker 2: And I was like, oh why he said, I really

1:20:18 Speaker 2: like Brad Marshaun and I was like, stabby in the heart.

1:20:21 Speaker 1: I don't know, man, We're here for Brad. Uh huh

1:20:24 Speaker 1: that form the Anthers. We're here earlier. Yeah, we've been

1:20:27 Speaker 1: here at all time. Go cheered together.

1:20:31 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, to get that super late to my jersey

1:20:36 Speaker 2: and they're like, yeah, turn up, we're gonna said to

1:20:40 Speaker 2: some of these lame I got two others sad, bruits bad,

1:20:45 Speaker 2: don't just go into overtime sit it in a half minutes.

1:20:48 Speaker 1: I'm losing faith. So you know what's interesting, because I

1:20:54 Speaker 1: heard you guys talking earlier about you guys being happy

1:20:56 Speaker 1: that ton that these broadcasts, I will say my respect

1:21:01 Speaker 1: for peaking super bo that's going some Yeah, it was.

1:21:06 Speaker 1: I always found these when it seem the gimmicky at

1:21:10 Speaker 1: the very start of it. But the more of the

1:21:15 Speaker 1: reposts of hymns UH preparing the hockey greats NPA greats

1:21:21 Speaker 1: in the grades, and if UH continued, Willing missed it

1:21:25 Speaker 1: back that claim ups with facts. Uh maybe realized that

1:21:30 Speaker 1: he actually has a lot of intelligent things to say.

1:21:34 Speaker 1: That was close. I think he has a lot of

1:21:37 Speaker 1: great Now it's gonna get tippy, just uh, I don't

1:21:42 Speaker 1: have to he can look bad into his reticket in

1:21:45 Speaker 1: the shops.

1:21:46 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know this the last commercial break well back,

1:21:51 Speaker 2: why oh this is that weird commercial? It's this guy

1:21:56 Speaker 2: There was a oh yeah, you didn't see your behind

1:21:58 Speaker 2: in the discord. There was the whole thing with this

1:22:01 Speaker 2: guy walking around a cup at that and he saw

1:22:05 Speaker 2: like a post it now and he's like, why is

1:22:07 Speaker 2: this say, Paul business Net.

1:22:12 Speaker 1: And then the joke in the discord was, I mean,

1:22:15 Speaker 1: but we don't know who you are. So I like

1:22:20 Speaker 1: the announcers better on TNT, like lay by play game

1:22:28 Speaker 1: can't be better. Uh, some of the panel is very good,

1:22:34 Speaker 1: like and that summer terrible, Like Retzki is terrible. He's

1:22:38 Speaker 1: about as exciting as past. Yeah, he's good. Who's that

1:22:47 Speaker 1: other guy that I asked about? Ian got his name?

1:22:53 Speaker 1: And then obviously Hay, I love thanks the bust. He's

1:22:58 Speaker 1: definitely picking up here. It's not really a slowed down

1:23:01 Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, it's like more space. I am

1:23:06 Speaker 1: reacting to edmund usibility. Yeah, they really took over. Yeah,

1:23:14 Speaker 1: and or it. It's giving a bit of rule for

1:23:17 Speaker 1: them to try to make some of these tricky passes

1:23:20 Speaker 1: with well that was a good say. Yeah, I mean

1:23:28 Speaker 1: you have the room to try and make some a

1:23:29 Speaker 1: little bit of flashy places. But they're also uh not

1:23:32 Speaker 1: giving up on possession. Yeah, they are able to battle

1:23:36 Speaker 1: the puck back from Florida. Yeah, which is encouraging well

1:23:42 Speaker 1: for them to getting higher, right, aren't They're the they're

1:23:46 Speaker 1: the old man team right now.

1:23:49 Speaker 2: Freedman was going on about how this particular taint like

1:23:53 Speaker 2: in the context that it was because they were older.

1:23:57 Speaker 1: They really, I mean heavily got sleep science. They got

1:24:03 Speaker 1: like a sleep doctor. Really, so they.

1:24:08 Speaker 2: Have opted for I think the last couple of seasons

1:24:11 Speaker 2: that when they're on the road, if you know a

1:24:13 Speaker 2: lot of teams will leave right away, like it's o'clock

1:24:18 Speaker 2: at night, they more often than not opt to stay

1:24:22 Speaker 2: and sleep there.

1:24:23 Speaker 1: Everybody gets better sleep and then travel the next day.

1:24:26 Speaker 2: And that's what they did. They traveled at the last

1:24:29 Speaker 2: possible minute to go up to Edmonton. Interesting, Yeah, I

1:24:33 Speaker 2: did it last year too. Everybody's a year older.

1:24:37 Speaker 1: I would say that makes sense because that often performance

1:24:43 Speaker 1: is baked into everybody's analysis of the team when they

1:24:46 Speaker 1: travel brick all this season won't be like, oh, well

1:24:48 Speaker 1: they get out till three in the morning and then

1:24:50 Speaker 1: prob so if that's part of your yeah, that's part

1:24:55 Speaker 1: of your h you know, pre dame analysis that people

1:24:59 Speaker 1: likely h to perform because they didn't get oh oh

1:25:02 Speaker 1: my goodness, wow, that was good stay for the few

1:25:06 Speaker 1: minutes both sides.

1:25:08 Speaker 14: Yeah, although I did think at this point in the

1:25:13 Speaker 14: season it's going over.

1:25:15 Speaker 1: Everybody.

1:25:17 Speaker 2: Everybody is at their keep performance level. Like this is

1:25:23 Speaker 2: the max and I get doing that kind of stuff,

1:25:27 Speaker 2: you know, during the regular season because of what you're

1:25:30 Speaker 2: doing that entire season is building your endurance and convintion

1:25:34 Speaker 2: to get this point so that way you can actually

1:25:38 Speaker 2: keep going, Oh my god, I'm gonna go to overtime.

1:25:44 Speaker 2: I would love to see those Uh did you read

1:25:48 Speaker 2: those fake tools for if hockey goes into six overtimes?

1:25:55 Speaker 1: Man, you've got to catch up. I know, I know,

1:25:58 Speaker 1: I do.

1:25:58 Speaker 2: I have to.

1:26:00 Speaker 15: So someone had posted like, oh, if I can't goes

1:26:04 Speaker 15: into six overtimes, then they have fifteen players on each

1:26:11 Speaker 15: side on the ice for the whole the rest of

1:26:13 Speaker 15: the game.

1:26:14 Speaker 1: And then someone was like, well, and then in the

1:26:16 Speaker 1: fifth overtime that's when they introduced two bucks. It's gonna

1:26:22 Speaker 1: be a heartbreak again. Regardless, I think now, I really

1:26:28 Speaker 1: do think that prediction was gonna be right. I was

1:26:32 Speaker 1: predicting because you've had a couple of well, no, I

1:26:34 Speaker 1: mean Johnson goal first, follow the shots on goal? What

1:26:37 Speaker 1: happened there? I said, I less, they turn it around

1:26:40 Speaker 1: and the next team to score, it's gonna win. I

1:26:43 Speaker 1: had been to the scored that goal, So.

1:26:48 Speaker 2: Wow, what if Florida doing Holy moly, they are chasing

1:26:53 Speaker 2: their tail.

1:26:54 Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely seems like I had been taking roll and

1:26:58 Speaker 5: play last few minutes, and.

1:27:01 Speaker 1: For it it didn't seem to be. What's more, you

1:27:04 Speaker 1: screaming about let it go out of play. That's what

1:27:06 Speaker 1: they're saying. It is out of play. But it was

1:27:08 Speaker 1: it touched, which I thought that they did introduce the

1:27:13 Speaker 1: rule that that's reviewable to what that they played the

1:27:16 Speaker 1: puck after it went out of play. I don't know

1:27:19 Speaker 1: what's the group say. The place should have been whistled dead,

1:27:24 Speaker 1: wasn't it the timing? And so there should be a

1:27:26 Speaker 1: face off in that zone as opposed toulfare But I'm

1:27:30 Speaker 1: just now, I'm just talking because I don't know what

1:27:32 Speaker 1: nice one. I don't even know if there let's see

1:27:36 Speaker 1: what happened. I played hockey.

1:27:40 Speaker 12: Yeah, right, Edmonton's motivated to the score because they don't

1:27:43 Speaker 12: want to get yelled at by Connor David again, so

1:27:46 Speaker 12: embarrassing because it was maybe by no play has already.

1:27:52 Speaker 1: Gone on and stops because it's like eighteen seconds. Oh TV, baby,

1:28:00 Speaker 1: there's terrible. I bread out of material like forty five

1:28:03 Speaker 1: minutes ago. Oh my god, they are coming out hot.

1:28:06 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I don't know.

1:28:08 Speaker 2: If this were Boston, then that means it was gonna

1:28:10 Speaker 2: go in the other direction and they would loose.

1:28:14 Speaker 1: Wait is that not what everyone experienced? I think dry

1:28:17 Speaker 1: ste out there, not a hold. They're not gonna call anything.

1:28:20 Speaker 1: They better not call anything.

1:28:22 Speaker 3: Come up.

1:28:24 Speaker 1: Already, it's tense over time. Come on, get back on side. Boy.

1:28:33 Speaker 1: How many shots on gold at Edmonton? How they had

1:28:35 Speaker 1: thirty five going into it?

1:28:36 Speaker 2: Right?

1:28:37 Speaker 1: Yeah?

1:28:38 Speaker 5: I think japan Pas had like five shots and the

1:28:40 Speaker 5: other times the party thing, yeah, definitely been They've been

1:28:43 Speaker 5: coming out hard, but they've they've been just sort of

1:28:47 Speaker 5: throwing it at the deck.

1:28:48 Speaker 1: I don't get. I don't have a sense that had

1:28:50 Speaker 1: been running around on their own zone at all. So

1:28:53 Speaker 1: I think there's just been oh my god, it's been this.

1:28:57 Speaker 1: This name's nearly ended like ten times. Wow. Wow, I'll

1:29:01 Speaker 1: get that most post season over time, grand marsham mccoor.

1:29:05 Speaker 1: You could tie it if you get this one.

1:29:07 Speaker 3: Yeah, right.

1:29:07 Speaker 1: The another reason not to trade him, I'm gonna be

1:29:10 Speaker 1: I've been in stoppable achieving. I hadn't processed anything right,

1:29:15 Speaker 1: So I'm like things happened that I turned the TV

1:29:19 Speaker 1: off and I went away and I didn't come back.

1:29:22 Speaker 1: It's kind of neatly folded by Turkey. Put it away

1:29:25 Speaker 1: the time for child is thing exactly. Oh my god,

1:29:32 Speaker 1: Oh my god, boy, all he's still standing.

1:29:39 Speaker 2: Oh there's not a lot of fu Yeah, there's not

1:29:46 Speaker 2: a lot of protection.

1:29:48 Speaker 1: Why would you see? This is this is West.

1:29:51 Speaker 2: People don't like Floria. I mean that was unnecessary. The

1:29:57 Speaker 2: effectivements of their game blocky standpoying. But yeah, it's absolute

1:30:01 Speaker 2: cheap shots. We have part of it, right, I can't.

1:30:04 Speaker 2: I don't know whether not they'd be as effective if

1:30:06 Speaker 2: they didn't do that.

1:30:07 Speaker 1: Right.

1:30:09 Speaker 2: Well, it's like the idea that well, of course they

1:30:11 Speaker 2: do it, because if they're all doing it, what are

1:30:14 Speaker 2: they gonna throw the whole team?

1:30:17 Speaker 1: Nelly? Look what's the exception.

1:30:19 Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be a lucky mount. Oh but

1:30:22 Speaker 2: I think it's starting to get tired.

1:30:23 Speaker 1: Yeah, well yeah, but they're so now they team is

1:30:28 Speaker 1: both teams seemed to be very kiddy, Yeah, getting old.

1:30:31 Speaker 1: No one's running around a lot, no one's playing with

1:30:34 Speaker 1: the group, sloppy. Everyone is going very hard.

1:30:39 Speaker 2: Oh but.

1:30:44 Speaker 1: This now just now has the feeling now to getting

1:30:48 Speaker 1: in Florida forty to twenty nine.

1:30:52 Speaker 14: They had they've taken stopped from sport stop. It seems

1:30:57 Speaker 14: like this is gonna be part of stay to get

1:31:00 Speaker 14: exactly how you're seeing someone for you to twenty nine

1:31:04 Speaker 14: and you get it, get a found from the sunlight.

1:31:07 Speaker 1: Right, it's both the way and but that I feel

1:31:12 Speaker 1: like it now. Yeah, I've been to them really taking

1:31:15 Speaker 1: it to them in a hard way. Uh back check.

1:31:20 Speaker 1: It's kind of not existing at this point. Really. I

1:31:23 Speaker 1: think they're gas yeah, all down to the goalie. Wow.

1:31:28 Speaker 1: Oh but love of God, can you please end? And

1:31:31 Speaker 1: there their game is so physical that, uh, you can't

1:31:35 Speaker 1: stay the you know, no long time.

1:31:37 Speaker 2: I also wonder like how the coach manages someone like

1:31:42 Speaker 2: Connor McDavid berry because like you don't want to underutilize

1:31:48 Speaker 2: him because you don't know how long the period is

1:31:50 Speaker 2: obviously going to be, so do you play him like

1:31:54 Speaker 2: it's power play and I'm out there as much as possible,

1:31:58 Speaker 2: but he's risky completely Literating's.

1:32:02 Speaker 1: David one of the players that is sort of like

1:32:04 Speaker 1: when he goes, he goes, like when when he decides

1:32:07 Speaker 1: when he's going to go, like the way you know

1:32:10 Speaker 1: pork used to be, where it's just like, yeah, let

1:32:14 Speaker 1: that that people and they just let him go.

1:32:20 Speaker 2: No, I think uh, I think there's a lot more tension.

1:32:24 Speaker 2: Thing went like when they do that, it is unbelievable. Yeah,

1:32:29 Speaker 2: and this is that I'm actually dressed with Edmonton right now.

1:32:33 Speaker 2: They are They're not given forward any space. They're not

1:32:38 Speaker 2: waiting to see what word is going to do and

1:32:39 Speaker 2: then try to grade to it. Uh, panther gets possession.

1:32:44 Speaker 2: Somebody just starts chipping out and it's working. They're stripping

1:32:49 Speaker 2: the buck off the Panthers quite a bit. Yeah, so

1:32:52 Speaker 2: kudos to them.

1:32:54 Speaker 1: They live there three left, Ah, what is gonna happen

1:33:03 Speaker 1: that something? But see, yeah, like an eternity ago, I

1:33:11 Speaker 1: think so. I think he's lived on the end of

1:33:13 Speaker 1: the proud last year, the end of the first period. Yeah,

1:33:16 Speaker 1: you had suggested that Blorida didn't have it because that

1:33:21 Speaker 1: their shots are very low, they're not coming out hard

1:33:24 Speaker 1: mm hmm. I feel as other effort just stood a

1:33:29 Speaker 1: fairly good effort by the Panthers. Edmonton had a larger effort.

1:33:35 Speaker 1: I I don't know that Florida has underperformed in this game,

1:33:39 Speaker 1: but I feel like Edmonton has exceeded extrications. I don't.

1:33:44 Speaker 1: I don't know how you feel about that.

1:33:45 Speaker 2: You're fair but not I'm not right away, I'd say

1:33:50 Speaker 2: they exceeded expectations by.

1:33:53 Speaker 1: Holding the third period and having a fledge like the data.

1:33:58 Speaker 1: And I don't think that.

1:33:59 Speaker 2: Anyone would have really expected that, especially to come from

1:34:02 Speaker 2: someone not named Pick David or dry title.

1:34:05 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, got pick with the blue.

1:34:09 Speaker 3: Line right title for the win.

1:34:25 Speaker 1: And when I say the next bowl next the team

1:34:30 Speaker 1: that's the next.

1:34:31 Speaker 3: Goal win.

1:34:34 Speaker 2: In the third perios the next team the score was

1:34:37 Speaker 2: gonna win it.

1:34:39 Speaker 1: You could you just say that you were you were?

1:34:41 Speaker 1: You felt epic didn't have this game in the first

1:34:43 Speaker 1: period and proven right, I know my hockeys. You want

1:34:49 Speaker 1: to know my hockey. No, actually I think we know

1:34:55 Speaker 1: the hockey. C love Cleve Pop's got a glove problem.

1:35:02 Speaker 1: After they be so who who had dry title and

1:35:06 Speaker 1: left them barkop cop right, there's there were too many

1:35:10 Speaker 1: people hards. So they were being both very aggressive up

1:35:15 Speaker 1: up high, which.

1:35:16 Speaker 2: Was funny because when they started the p K they

1:35:20 Speaker 2: were very tight, like they were doing the box really

1:35:25 Speaker 2: really tight, not being aggressive, and in that moment they

1:35:29 Speaker 2: decided to be to try a little.

1:35:30 Speaker 1: Bit aggression and darkok was out of out of it.

1:35:35 Speaker 1: Oh my god, how many extra games will ultimately be

1:35:40 Speaker 1: played by the time this entire series? Uh man, that

1:35:46 Speaker 1: was some pullet one game one game in Yeah, pretty

1:35:51 Speaker 1: good effort on both sides. How do you feel about

1:35:54 Speaker 1: where we go from here?

1:35:55 Speaker 2: Who do you?

1:35:55 Speaker 1: Who do you? Who? Do you think it's gonna take

1:35:57 Speaker 1: the series? The whole thing? Yeah? I mean, obviously one

1:36:02 Speaker 1: game is not that that's a that's a shitty metric,

1:36:06 Speaker 1: but like neither team got run out of the run

1:36:08 Speaker 1: out of the barn tonight, it was pretty pretty good

1:36:11 Speaker 1: effort on both sides. So like, I mean, how are

1:36:14 Speaker 1: you how are you feeling? I definitely think it's gonna

1:36:18 Speaker 1: go seven.

1:36:19 Speaker 2: I think it went seven last year and it was

1:36:24 Speaker 2: and this was even better and even more.

1:36:29 Speaker 1: About you don't see how this stuffn't go.

1:36:33 Speaker 2: I mean, we'll see sact question after game two because

1:36:37 Speaker 2: I want to see how Florida.

1:36:40 Speaker 1: I definitely think that Edmonton has Edvington. I don't know

1:36:44 Speaker 1: Edmonton's playing better. They got they got beaten the fat

1:36:48 Speaker 1: three games in a row and then for it, it

1:36:49 Speaker 1: didn't show up for three more games. And the game

1:36:53 Speaker 1: seven last year was pretty soundly for it as I thought,

1:36:59 Speaker 1: like I fell like the INTI was pulled in them all,

1:37:01 Speaker 1: but I don't think that they were in it. Yeah,

1:37:06 Speaker 1: I mean and and trying not to sound tripe for

1:37:08 Speaker 1: any of my definition Edmonton. Edmonton did not want to

1:37:11 Speaker 1: lose this game, and I just realized that they were

1:37:14 Speaker 1: not going to lose this game and then didn't. But

1:37:18 Speaker 1: I think that Florida showed.

1:37:20 Speaker 2: Up yeah, well about them deciding that they weren't going

1:37:24 Speaker 2: to lose it. I think that they made that decision in.

1:37:28 Speaker 1: The third period and that was the difference. Paper Yeah,

1:37:32 Speaker 1: and say go Bees. You always say Brad, Brad, Brad,

1:37:38 Speaker 1: b Brad

1:37:44 Speaker 2: Mhm h