Is Marat Khusnutdinov the Future of the Bruins? | Ep. 93
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🎙️ Marat Khusnutdinov came to Boston via the Minnesota Wild, the team that drafted him, as part of a trade deal for Justin Brazeau. At only 22 years of age, can Bruins management properly develop him into a future star, or will he stall out like the other young kids?📲 Follow us on X, Instagram & Blue Sky ➡️ @TapetoTapeMK
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Speaker 1: Hey Bruins fam. Before we air this week's episode.
Speaker 2: About Marat Husnadinov, we wanted to share some thoughts about
Speaker 2: the new Bruins head coach, Marco Sturm.
Speaker 3: As I'm listening to the Bruins press conference officially welcoming
Speaker 3: Marco Sturm as their newest head coach. In listening to
Speaker 3: Marco talk about the strengths and weaknesses of this current
Speaker 3: roster as constructed, it struck me how painfully far away
Speaker 3: the Boston Bruins are to returning to championship caliber form.
Speaker 3: Based on what we're seeing in the Stanley Cup Finals,
Speaker 3: the road to a rebuild for the Boston Bruins is
Speaker 3: likely going to be long and hard, simply based on
Speaker 3: what I'm seeing out of the Florida Panthers and the
Speaker 3: Edmonton Oilers. If that is what the Ruins will aspire
Speaker 3: to be again, which is a playoff contending team, And
Speaker 3: while I appreciate Marco's enthusiasm and his candor in how
Speaker 3: he spoke about the strengths and weaknesses of the Boston
Speaker 3: Bruins as currently constructed, It's very hard to garner an
Speaker 3: enormous amount of enthusiasm for a new head coach when
Speaker 3: you have really no true idea what your roster is
Speaker 3: going to be come opening day. I hope that Marco
Speaker 3: is ready for what is going to be an extreme
Speaker 3: challenge for him, because this is a fan base that
Speaker 3: is not going to suffer fools lightly any longer. And
Speaker 3: if things don't trend upward for the Boston Bruins, my
Speaker 3: fear is that our management team will once again be
Speaker 3: looking for a fall guy, and I would hate to
Speaker 3: have that fall guy be Marco Sturm. It's very difficult
Speaker 3: for any of us to assess what kind of a
Speaker 3: job a new head coach will or won't do until
Speaker 3: you know what he or she will have to work with.
Speaker 3: This is one step in the right direction. I will
Speaker 3: give management that much do. However, we need to see
Speaker 3: what changes will be made to the roster who stays
Speaker 3: and who goes before any of us can have any
Speaker 3: forethought into potentially what this Bruins team can or can't
Speaker 3: do for the upcoming season.
Speaker 2: I completely agree with Maria. In addition to her comments,
Speaker 2: I want to throw out some shade to Kevin DuPont
Speaker 2: from The Globe at forty one three in the press
Speaker 2: conference this MENSA candidate asked a legitimate question cloaked in misogyny.
Speaker 4: Marco Kevin Dubaddian, I'm curious about the one position open
Speaker 4: on the coaching staff from a variety of areas. You
Speaker 4: think more in terms of an old guy, a young guy,
Speaker 4: special teams person, a new guy, or that spectrum of
Speaker 4: associate coach. And lastly, and be careful with this with
Speaker 4: your wife and daughter here, would you consider a woman
Speaker 4: for that position?
Speaker 2: So, Kevin, what did you mean by that moronic comment?
Speaker 2: Please do tell me, because it sure sounds like you
Speaker 2: would assume that a woman behind the bench means that
Speaker 2: something inappropriate would happen, and that there's something inappropriate in
Speaker 2: a coach wanting a woman behind the bench. But it's
Speaker 2: only something that the women in your family shouldn't hear about, right,
Speaker 2: It's okay for the boys to hear about it.
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Speaker 2: Bruins Tape to Tape. I'm your host this evening, Caroline
Speaker 2: with a K, and this is our next episode about
Speaker 2: our trade deadline acquisitions for the Boston Bruins. You're listening
Speaker 2: in on June eleventh, and I am here with my
Speaker 2: fantastic co host, Maria from Watertown.
Speaker 1: Hi Maria, Hi Caroline. What's going on? Oh?
Speaker 2: You know, living the dream, waiting for October to come around.
Speaker 1: It seems like an eternity since we have seen the
Speaker 1: black and gold on the ice. This has been unusual,
Speaker 1: unusual waters for fans of the Boston Bruins this season.
Speaker 3: But you know, we're here to try to make everyone
Speaker 3: feel a little bit that are about the Bruins roster?
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, isn't that what we're going to do?
Speaker 2: Obviously, And as we get closer and closer to free agency,
Speaker 2: it's yet another kind of tricky season because there are
Speaker 2: a lot of different rules and a lot of different
Speaker 2: things to understand about these contracts.
Speaker 6: What's the UFA, what's an r.
Speaker 1: What does all this mean?
Speaker 2: And so one of the interesting results I suppose of
Speaker 2: this year's trade deadline is the fact that the Boston
Speaker 2: Bruins acquired three RFAs restricted free agents, So not exactly
Speaker 2: what you would call a rental, which is what you
Speaker 2: might call someone who was a UFA.
Speaker 1: They have the right to go wherever the heck they
Speaker 1: want to go. RFAs are a.
Speaker 2: Completely different beast, and there are two different kinds of RFAs,
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Speaker 1: How long you have been in the business.
Speaker 2: Yeh, No, today we're going to be talking about Marat Who'snadinov?
Speaker 2: Which I was just thinking about this the other day
Speaker 2: and kind of chuckling to myself, Boy did we struggle
Speaker 2: with his name?
Speaker 1: And now I.
Speaker 3: Kind of won't even say it now it just rolls
Speaker 3: right off the ton Marat.
Speaker 1: He don't sell it yet.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just need to say it like he was
Speaker 3: part Italian, so it would just roll off my tongue exactly.
Speaker 2: So, uh, Who'sadinov was part of a package deal that
Speaker 2: included uh, former Boston Bruin Jacob Blauco, who will talk
Speaker 2: about in next week's episode, and the two of them
Speaker 2: came to Boston for Justin Brazo, who was actually having
Speaker 2: a pretty good year. He you know, uh, basically was
Speaker 2: with Austin for a little over a year because he
Speaker 2: had signed the previous February, and then his year kind
Speaker 2: of plateaued, and I think, which was kind of a bummer.
Speaker 2: But I know, and I'll speak for myself, and I'm
Speaker 2: sure you agree in this that last year when Jacob
Speaker 2: Choe was traded away, I was a little sad.
Speaker 1: All the tools, he was.
Speaker 2: Great, I was personality, but you know, again, we're going
Speaker 2: to talk about him next week. But so I was
Speaker 2: thrilled to see him, but I was intrigued by this
Speaker 2: young Russian player apparently barely speaks English, that's how new
Speaker 2: he is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think he and Zadorov or quickly
Speaker 3: became BFFs.
Speaker 2: Yes. Well, and if you recall from last August when
Speaker 2: we did our player profiles on some of our new siinees,
Speaker 2: Zadorov was one of the first you know, Russians to
Speaker 2: sign with Boston in quite a while. Yes, you know,
Speaker 2: we had Orlov. We traded for him. He was a
Speaker 2: rental that doesn't really count, and so I was intrigued
Speaker 2: by how a Russian player would fare on the Boston
Speaker 2: Bruins because typically they have not gone far. It's just
Speaker 2: a you know, correlation is not equal causation, but interesting tidbit.
Speaker 2: And now we have two.
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Speaker 1: So we are back talking about marat whusnandinov.
Speaker 2: He is a twenty two year old left handed center,
Speaker 2: and let me tell you you're going to be hearing
Speaker 2: about another left handed center after this.
Speaker 1: We have them in spaids right now.
Speaker 3: Apparently they the rights centers, but that's that's another question.
Speaker 2: Uh Who's Nadinov was drafted in the second round, thirty
Speaker 2: seventh overall back in twenty twenty by Minnesota. He played
Speaker 2: seventy five games last season. He scored five goals, seven assists,
Speaker 2: He got twelve points, and he was a negative eleven
Speaker 2: minus eleven.
Speaker 1: Kind of a theme as we talked about last week with.
Speaker 2: Being in the red as well, and I believe our
Speaker 2: remaining players at least one more.
Speaker 3: Also in the red. But we do in defense of
Speaker 3: us pointing that out. Yes, as far as the ten
Speaker 3: their tenure with the Boston Bruins on this season, we
Speaker 3: went from having a defensive structure that some was non
Speaker 3: existent and for those players who also spent time on
Speaker 3: the penalty kill unit, you know, our goaltending wasn't up
Speaker 3: to par. Our, defensive structure wasn't up to par. Our
Speaker 3: you know, penalty kill units were not up to par.
Speaker 1: We're giving up more gold.
Speaker 3: So again we point these stats out because their stats, however,
Speaker 3: they they shouldn't. They shouldn't define right the be all
Speaker 3: and end all for these players because they came into
Speaker 3: let's face facts, a shotty a shitty situation. Okay, there's
Speaker 3: no other way to put it. They came to the
Speaker 3: Bruins at a shitty time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not a good time, no no.
Speaker 2: So Also, now keep in mind again he's twenty two
Speaker 2: years old. He's he's a bit younger, he's newer in
Speaker 2: the league.
Speaker 1: He's currently you know, playing fourth line minutes.
Speaker 2: So you know, his stats might not not might not
Speaker 2: knock your socks off. But again keep in mind, this
Speaker 2: guy is super young. I think he's gonna have a
Speaker 2: lot to show and being an RFA, unless Boston really
Speaker 2: doesn't feel like keeping him around, they're gonna hold on
Speaker 2: to him.
Speaker 1: So just two other quick stats for you.
Speaker 2: His COURSI four, which is basically, you know, how many
Speaker 2: times he's making an attempt. His percentage there was forty
Speaker 2: two and a half, so also not particularly spectacular. But
Speaker 2: and and again a large percentage of his season was
Speaker 2: in Minnesota, so not knowing really what their system.
Speaker 1: Was, what they were all about, you know, hard to
Speaker 1: really judge, but.
Speaker 6: Not awesome.
Speaker 2: However, if you recall from last week's episode, my favorite statistic,
Speaker 2: one of them being the individual points percentage. Again considering
Speaker 2: for all the goals that that player is on the ice,
Speaker 2: for how many of those did he touched where he
Speaker 2: got a point?
Speaker 1: He was actually in really good shape.
Speaker 2: He had a seventy one point forty three individual points percentage.
Speaker 2: And if you consider the fact that he's getting you know,
Speaker 2: maybe third line, fourth line minutes, that's relatively impactful.
Speaker 1: So that says a lot.
Speaker 2: It's something that he could potentially contribute to Boston. Now,
Speaker 2: the last thing I want to kind of run down
Speaker 2: before we talk about him a little bit is again
Speaker 2: his RFA status. So he's a restricted free agent, particularly
Speaker 2: because of his year, his age, he's twenty two years old.
Speaker 2: He's definitely not you know, worked in the NHL long enough.
Speaker 1: So this.
Speaker 2: He's also coming off of his first contract in the NHL,
Speaker 2: So he now has arbitration rights.
Speaker 1: So he's known as an RFA arb if you will.
Speaker 2: And so this means that the Boston Bruins can retain
Speaker 2: his negotiating rights and can extend a qualifying offer to
Speaker 2: maintain those rights if they cannot agree on a new contract.
Speaker 2: Whusnadinov now has the option to file for salary arbitration,
Speaker 2: allowing the independent arbiter to come in.
Speaker 1: And determine the salary.
Speaker 2: If you recall, obviously the highly painful situation with Jerby's wayman,
Speaker 2: I was just gonna go with this RFA with arbitration rights,
Speaker 2: But so is Trent Frederick a couple of seasons ago
Speaker 2: as well. So Again, being an RFA means the player
Speaker 2: cannot choose directly to leave the team as if he
Speaker 2: were an unrestricted free agent, which means he can go
Speaker 2: wherever he wants. He wants to stay, he can try
Speaker 2: and negotiate a deal there. If he doesn't want to stay,
Speaker 2: he can go someplace else. Boston is the one that
Speaker 2: has to kind of break up with him. Again, That's
Speaker 2: how we got Morgan Gigee, so knowing this, seeing a
Speaker 2: little bit of what he had to offer. What are
Speaker 2: your thoughts on Maret Husnadinov? Do you expect a qualifying offer?
Speaker 2: What do you think is going to happen with this guy?
Speaker 3: I I think the Bruins want to keep him. I
Speaker 3: think they want to keep him at a price that
Speaker 3: works for them. I don't know what this young and
Speaker 3: might be looking for. Again, he's only twenty two. He's
Speaker 3: only twenty two years old. You know, he likely wants to,
Speaker 3: I would guess not be a player that is being
Speaker 3: moved from team to team to team. I think it's
Speaker 3: really helpful to have a veteran like Nikita Zadorov, you know,
Speaker 3: on the same team with him to help guide him
Speaker 3: along both, you know, with a little bit of the
Speaker 3: language barrier that he's still working through. Again, and I'm
Speaker 3: going to sound like a broken record, but I'm going
Speaker 3: to take the same Maria from Watertown Company line. When
Speaker 3: it comes to young players, the Bruins need to fish
Speaker 3: or cut bait, which to me is right. You finally
Speaker 3: need to decide that you're going to make the commitment
Speaker 3: yep two, help grow and develop a young player like Merrit,
Speaker 3: put him in, put him in the right spot for me,
Speaker 3: that would be fourth line, right, And again you get
Speaker 3: yourself into a situation where he starts right in, you know,
Speaker 3: training camp day, and he's showing you that maybe you
Speaker 3: know he can handle more than that. Then yeah, awesome,
Speaker 3: But you know these are these again, and because these
Speaker 3: are restricted free agents. My other hesitation is the bumbling,
Speaker 3: bungling boobs that manage Boston Bruins and how they conduct
Speaker 3: themselves when it comes to these types of negotiations.
Speaker 1: Do you think.
Speaker 2: That he might spend any time down in Providence. I mean,
Speaker 2: he clearly didn't do that last season in Minnesota because
Speaker 2: he ended up with a grand total of seventy five games,
Speaker 2: or if he did, it was very brief. Do you
Speaker 2: think that that could be something that happens. I think
Speaker 2: it's dependent on how the rest of your roster starts
Speaker 2: to look in what you do at the draft with
Speaker 2: the draft picks that you have. Yeah, Now, hopefully, hopefully,
Speaker 2: when there's a new coach in place, training camp opens,
Speaker 2: rookie camp, right, these players are all going to be told,
Speaker 2: in no one certain terms, there were jobs you need
Speaker 2: to earn your jobs. Yeah, they'll be you know, there'll
Speaker 2: be structure, they'll be competition, they'll be guidance. A lot
Speaker 2: of that to me depends on what are you putting together.
Speaker 1: Here for these young players.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, and I think I'll be really curious
Speaker 2: to see how he does at camp. I mean, let's
Speaker 2: be honest, I'm super curious about this year's camp in general.
Speaker 1: In general, because it was such a.
Speaker 3: Well so many times this is what this is the
Speaker 3: spin that we get that it was, you know, camp
Speaker 3: sounded like a shit show, you know.
Speaker 2: But we commented on that agent went right right, We didn't.
Speaker 1: We didn't need Camp and Dawn to tell us that.
Speaker 2: No, So I'll be curious to see how he does there.
Speaker 2: And then you know, I fully expect them to retain
Speaker 2: his rights. They're gonna give him, you know, I mean contractually,
Speaker 2: they're obligated to give him a pay bump per you know,
Speaker 2: the minimum increase very similar to a cost of living
Speaker 2: increase that you or I might get at work. So
Speaker 2: you know, I certainly don't think that they're going to
Speaker 2: be offering him any kind of like significant extension.
Speaker 1: You know, he's eligible for that as part of the deal.
Speaker 1: July first, So what was he making when he came
Speaker 1: to US league minimum?
Speaker 6: I believe, now I have to check.
Speaker 1: I'm just curious. Oh no, he was making a lot more.
Speaker 2: Uh So, his cap hit was the nine twenty five,
Speaker 2: which is just above league minimum. But he was eligible
Speaker 2: for bonuses this this year as well, So he had
Speaker 2: an aav of one point three five million dollars and
Speaker 2: a bonus of eight point fifty signing bonus of you know,
Speaker 2: ninety two thousands, So nine twenty five, I mean still
Speaker 2: basically minimum wage in the NHL. I mean, you'll probably
Speaker 2: get bumped up to get a little bump.
Speaker 3: He'll get a little bump again. He is only he
Speaker 3: is only twenty to only twenty two. He's still got
Speaker 3: things to.
Speaker 2: Prove, right, He's not a you know, super phenom or
Speaker 2: what have you. But he I liked what I saw
Speaker 2: out there. I liked, you know, his presence on the ice.
Speaker 2: He was where he.
Speaker 1: Needed to be.
Speaker 2: Obviously, with a seventy one point four individual points percentage.
Speaker 2: She was on the ice when he needed to be
Speaker 2: on the ice. Unfortunately, he was also on the ice
Speaker 2: when things were not going well.
Speaker 1: I know, but I hadn't.
Speaker 3: Brought it out of fool, but that was the case
Speaker 3: for virtually, you know, anybody on that roster not named
Speaker 3: Morgan Geek or David Pasternak.
Speaker 2: Right, So yeah, so you know, and he wants to
Speaker 2: stay in Boston, Pernessen, So you know, he's going to
Speaker 2: be motivated to stick around and probably say yes to
Speaker 2: whatever they give him. And I think it's probably gonna
Speaker 2: be fair. You know, when you're looking at his player usage, did.
Speaker 1: You say fair? And Boston Brulins, are you.
Speaker 2: All right when it's when they cost this little Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's fair.
Speaker 1: It's the only.
Speaker 2: Time he's gonna get a fair deal in Boston because
Speaker 2: they're contractually obligated to give him an increase as an RFA,
Speaker 2: So that's literally it. So again, he is another one
Speaker 2: that I think he's gonna show us a lot of
Speaker 2: what kind of player he is that with a full
Speaker 2: year under his belt in Boston, if he were part
Speaker 2: of a trade package, Maria, how would you feel about that?
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 3: Again, I would feel okay for the young man because
Speaker 3: I think you might be better served just because you know,
Speaker 3: I don't have again, I don't have a ton of
Speaker 3: faith and confidence in how we have worked with and
Speaker 3: developed young players.
Speaker 1: And again I.
Speaker 3: Feel like I'm regurgitating the same thing from the prior episode.
Speaker 3: But do you know, do you have faith in how
Speaker 3: we have the organization has handled some of our younger
Speaker 3: players that were supposed to be something right if they
Speaker 3: require tested high draft picks right in choosing these players,
Speaker 3: and then you the eventuality is you wind up either
Speaker 3: they don't meet their full potential, you end up trading them,
Speaker 3: and then they do meet.
Speaker 1: A little bit higher potential. So is it the player
Speaker 1: or is it you guys. Yeah, no, I.
Speaker 2: Think you're I completely agree with you, because if a
Speaker 2: player comes into Boston, and we kind of talked about
Speaker 2: this in the last episode that if.
Speaker 1: They require any degree of polish, I start to get
Speaker 1: a little nervous. So again, Jack Sudnika is a great
Speaker 1: example in recent times. You know, he wasn't David Pasternach.
Speaker 2: He needed polish, he needed development, and he kind of
Speaker 2: got hung out to dry and his career.
Speaker 1: I think it cost him his career quite frankly.
Speaker 2: David Pasternach is different because David Pasternach.
Speaker 1: Didn't really need any polishing.
Speaker 2: Patrice Bergeron didn't need any developing, Brad Marshan didn't need developing.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm worried about Marshan started when when camp
Speaker 1: started his he was fourth line. He was fourth line exactly.
Speaker 3: He was sent down to Providence, came back and then
Speaker 3: again he is not on the same stratosphere as you
Speaker 3: know David David Pasternach, but he turned himself into an
Speaker 3: elite player.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: I want to have faith because things went so poorly
Speaker 3: this past season for the Bruins that there hopefully have
Speaker 3: been a lot of lessons learned in that we have
Speaker 3: got to do better by these young players. They're gonna
Speaker 3: make mistakes. How many times did we say last season?
Speaker 1: Right? What? How could this.
Speaker 3: Possibly get any worse to some of those young guys
Speaker 3: up from PROD. They're gonna make mistakes anyway they make.
Speaker 3: I mean, are they gonna their mistakes? Is gonna be
Speaker 3: any worse than the mistakes we watched veterans players make?
Speaker 2: I mean no, because if we're gonna lose, who cares
Speaker 2: if we lose by three goals or we lose by
Speaker 2: ten goals. If the loss is coming, you might as
Speaker 2: well invest in some of that youth.
Speaker 1: And this is also why I.
Speaker 2: Do worry about Matt Potra and I worry about someone
Speaker 2: like Who's Nadinov because both of them are so young.
Speaker 2: This is going to be a really critical period in
Speaker 2: their development in terms of how they can.
Speaker 1: Take their game to the next level.
Speaker 2: And I think that from what I saw from Who's
Speaker 2: Nadinov again, that he requires some polish, he requires some education.
Speaker 2: You know all of these things, but what do you
Speaker 2: expect when you walk into a room.
Speaker 1: Participate on a team where it's just completely other chaos?
Speaker 2: Now, lessons can be learned other than well, this was hard,
Speaker 2: not just like necessarily physically, but like you know, emotionally
Speaker 2: and psychologically to be on a team when everybody is
Speaker 2: so down. Maybe got a little bit of an emotion education,
Speaker 2: but that was about it, you know.
Speaker 3: So yeah, and there has to be an institutional change
Speaker 3: on their approach because it's going to be really difficult.
Speaker 3: Like we can try to guestimate all of this all
Speaker 3: we want, but if the philosophical approach that the organization
Speaker 3: has with respect to young players doesn't change, it's the
Speaker 3: very definition of madness when you keep doing the same
Speaker 3: thing over and over again and you expect a different result.
Speaker 3: Is that is my concern and my fear for young
Speaker 3: players like Who'stadinov and middle stat You need they still
Speaker 3: need guidance right right, And I know you're not in
Speaker 3: the business of doing that, but you just had one
Speaker 3: of the worst years in franchise history. So you got
Speaker 3: to start somewhere. And if it means with you know,
Speaker 3: giving these young players that you acquired, you agreed to
Speaker 3: take them, then you gotta you have to you have
Speaker 3: to make that commitment and you need to see it.
Speaker 6: Throw exactly exactly.
Speaker 1: So that's all she wrote. About Marit Housnadina. Any final thoughts, Maria,
Speaker 1: I just want this.
Speaker 3: I I just am looking forward to the Bruins doing
Speaker 3: something of significance come July one. I hope that I'm
Speaker 3: not going to be disappointed. But we shall see, we
Speaker 3: shall see. I mean it's the same same management duo
Speaker 3: in place, so I'm not sure how much is going
Speaker 3: to change, but again, hopefully that was what happened last season,
Speaker 3: was a big enough bucket of cold water on top
Speaker 3: of both their heads to wake them the hell up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would, I would have to think at least
Speaker 2: that at minimum. But as always, make sure you rate
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