Should the Bruins Re-Sign Victor Arvidsson? | Ep. 144

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0:50 Speaker 1: Welcome in everyone to another episode of Bruins Tape to tape.

0:54 Speaker 1: I will be your host today. I am Maria from Watertown.

0:58 Speaker 1: Before I introduce my lovely co host, I just want

1:02 Speaker 1: to give you a little bit of background on what

1:04 Speaker 1: we're doing this summer. We're continuing our series of revisiting

1:09 Speaker 1: the Boston Rulins roster in terms of who may stay,

1:13 Speaker 1: who may go, those we might want to keep, what

1:16 Speaker 1: our projections might have been early on in the season

1:20 Speaker 1: for some of the roster players and where things ended

1:23 Speaker 1: up today. But this episode, our profile will be on

1:27 Speaker 1: Victor Ardwardson. So with that being said, welcome in, my

1:31 Speaker 1: friend Caroline. How are you today? Good?

1:34 Speaker 4: How are you boo? Excellent?

1:37 Speaker 2: I'm excited to come back to Victor Irvinson because he

1:42 Speaker 2: was one that I think we were really excited about

1:44 Speaker 2: and we didn't really know a ton of and I think.

1:47 Speaker 4: I'm pretty happy with how that one turned out.

1:50 Speaker 1: I think we are both going to be patting ourselves

1:54 Speaker 1: on the back to some degree because we did a

1:57 Speaker 1: profile on Victor Arberdson back in August of twenty twenty five,

2:02 Speaker 1: and again we didn't know a whole lot about him.

2:05 Speaker 1: We knew of him, but because he predominantly played the

2:08 Speaker 1: majority of his career with the Nashville Predators and then

2:11 Speaker 1: spent a little bit of time with the Edmonton Oilers,

2:14 Speaker 1: we didn't get to see a lot of arvidsim I'm

2:17 Speaker 1: going to let you be the leadoff hitter with regard

2:20 Speaker 1: to what we said then and where we are now

2:24 Speaker 1: with Victor.

2:25 Speaker 4: Yeah, I love this pickup.

2:27 Speaker 2: So as a brief overview, we got him technically as

2:31 Speaker 2: a trade, although it really felt like a free agency

2:33 Speaker 2: signing because I believe it even was.

2:36 Speaker 4: Announced in the morning of July first, before free agency

2:40 Speaker 4: opened up at noon that day.

2:42 Speaker 2: Like you said, this is a player who has spent

2:44 Speaker 2: if not all, majority of his career out West. He

2:48 Speaker 2: also had a stint in LA and that was one

2:50 Speaker 2: of the things that we.

2:51 Speaker 4: Hadn't forgought about.

2:53 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was one of the things that we had

2:54 Speaker 2: discussed about his ability to fit in with whatever Marco

2:58 Speaker 2: Sturm's system was going to look like, because they had

3:01 Speaker 2: that personal connection from both of them being in LA

3:05 Speaker 2: At the same time, it certainly felt like Arvidson wanted

3:11 Speaker 2: out of Edmonton and Edmonton was in a we need

3:14 Speaker 2: to shed some cap space situation, and so it worked

3:18 Speaker 2: out for both of them because Arvidson had to sign.

3:21 Speaker 4: Off on leaving and where he would go, and he

3:24 Speaker 4: chose Boston.

3:25 Speaker 2: So another reason why it felt a little bit like

3:27 Speaker 2: a free agency signing, not just because of the time,

3:30 Speaker 2: and he came.

3:32 Speaker 4: In fairly cheap.

3:34 Speaker 2: He had a two year contract for four million for

3:38 Speaker 2: each year in Edmonton. And of course then the second

3:41 Speaker 2: year I was in Boston and there was a trade

3:45 Speaker 2: the Bruins turned over a twenty twenty seven defierent. I

3:49 Speaker 2: don't know what the value of that pick is, but

3:51 Speaker 2: I think Lewin's made out the Bruins. I think we're

3:54 Speaker 2: pretty fine with doing that because that was certainly a

3:59 Speaker 2: cap sheds situation for Edmonton, and I think the only

4:03 Speaker 2: potential downside that we could even assume with Victor Arbinson

4:08 Speaker 2: coming in was.

4:10 Speaker 4: A little bit his age. He's thirty three, and so

4:13 Speaker 4: for a forward, you might.

4:15 Speaker 2: Start to see a little bit of slippage in terms

4:17 Speaker 2: of speed and agility and recovery. And that piece was

4:21 Speaker 2: the biggest question mark, which was is he going to

4:24 Speaker 2: be healthy. He had some back issues in the past,

4:28 Speaker 2: and he's had he's missed some time in the past,

4:31 Speaker 2: and so that was really the only question mark.

4:33 Speaker 4: On the flip side, he.

4:34 Speaker 1: Hasn't played legitimately close to a full season since twenty sixteen.

4:40 Speaker 1: Twenty seventeen with Nashville, he played eighty games and then

4:44 Speaker 1: it's been a slow kind of missing games since then.

4:48 Speaker 1: Even with the Bruins this season, but it was the

4:50 Speaker 1: most that he's played in a while.

4:52 Speaker 2: In twenty twenty three, that was the year he only

4:55 Speaker 2: played eighteen That was the significant surgery year. So he

5:00 Speaker 2: and he was there for three seasons and only one

5:03 Speaker 2: season with Edmonton. I assume that they wanted to bring

5:06 Speaker 2: him in for all the same reasons that I think

5:09 Speaker 2: anyone would want to bring someone like him in. He's

5:12 Speaker 2: I think he's a little bit of a dark horse,

5:13 Speaker 2: and I think that's also how we perceived him coming

5:16 Speaker 2: in and having spent an entire season watching him, I

5:20 Speaker 2: would even still call him a dark horse, especially compared

5:23 Speaker 2: to other members of the Boston Bruins. But he turned

5:27 Speaker 2: out to be a very reliable player and someone that

5:30 Speaker 2: you could expect to be clutched in a lot of

5:34 Speaker 2: really important situations. Not just the fact that he was

5:38 Speaker 2: able to be a part of a line that was

5:41 Speaker 2: almost unchanged all season because of just how well they

5:46 Speaker 2: worked together, and that being the line that was centered

5:48 Speaker 2: by Pablo Zaka, and then he shared a wing position

5:52 Speaker 2: with Casey Middlestaff now and that line. Let me just

5:55 Speaker 2: let us just add because this is very important to note.

5:58 Speaker 2: At one point during the Redgular season that Trio was

6:02 Speaker 2: probably the Bran. They were the Brulin's best lie but

6:06 Speaker 2: they were one of the best lines in hockey.

6:09 Speaker 4: They were at a pretty good club.

6:11 Speaker 2: Yeah, And he one of the other things that I

6:13 Speaker 2: really enjoyed about him, And I will say, I don't

6:16 Speaker 2: know if we actually touched on this. Besides his speed,

6:20 Speaker 2: he's got an excellent skating ability and his ability to

6:23 Speaker 2: enter the zone. A pretty reasonable shooting percentage nine point

6:27 Speaker 2: three is what he actually ended up with at the

6:29 Speaker 2: end of this season, and the percent of shots on

6:31 Speaker 2: net was almost sixty four percent, so he was certainly

6:35 Speaker 2: not afraid to take shots. His predicted shooting talent is

6:38 Speaker 2: above average for the season, and I think what should

6:43 Speaker 2: not be shocking whatsoever. One of the newer metrics that

6:47 Speaker 2: we've been discussing as of late and will continue to discuss,

6:51 Speaker 2: because I think this is really important when we're considering

6:54 Speaker 2: the trades are going to be coming, and free agency

6:57 Speaker 2: is going to be coming, and who's going to be

6:58 Speaker 2: leaving and who's going to be coming in considering can

7:00 Speaker 2: you get someone better than what you currently have? Is

7:04 Speaker 2: the goals above replacement and the wins above replacement and

7:07 Speaker 2: the standings points above replacement. So how much does this

7:10 Speaker 2: player contribute to the team with goals to wins and

7:15 Speaker 2: points in the standings and should be no surprise whatsoever.

7:19 Speaker 2: Who is number one pretty much across the board David

7:23 Speaker 2: Pasternat Obviously he's the most talented player on the team,

7:27 Speaker 2: but number two for goals above replacement, Victor Arvidson. He

7:32 Speaker 2: had a tremendous year. He had an incredible impact, even

7:37 Speaker 2: though he didn't play.

7:37 Speaker 4: Eighty two games.

7:39 Speaker 2: His ability to be impactful in the time that he

7:42 Speaker 2: was on ice was significant, and I really am wondering

7:48 Speaker 2: what is going to happen with him and his contract

7:51 Speaker 2: because I'm not sure what else the front office is

7:56 Speaker 2: actually looking for and what they want now. Are they

7:59 Speaker 2: hoping that they can can get someone who is maybe

8:02 Speaker 2: statistically more like him but for less or who is younger,

8:07 Speaker 2: who could they can have for a lot longer. But

8:09 Speaker 2: I will say that we have not seen a consistent

8:14 Speaker 2: veteran presence on this.

8:17 Speaker 4: Team in years.

8:18 Speaker 2: We've talked about the last five seasons as being a

8:22 Speaker 2: little bit more chaotic, more volatile, because there hasn't been

8:27 Speaker 2: that steady Eddy presence that we saw for the previous

8:31 Speaker 2: fifteen seasons. We've seen a variety of players come in

8:35 Speaker 2: to serve that role, but they've never stuck around for

8:38 Speaker 2: more than two seasons because they do tend to be

8:40 Speaker 2: older players. These are the guys have seen everything. Arvidstin's

8:44 Speaker 2: been to the Stanley Cup Final, he was with Edmonton

8:47 Speaker 2: when they lost the second time to the Panthers. So

8:50 Speaker 2: I don't really know what they're thinking in terms of

8:53 Speaker 2: contract extensions or whatnot. But and as we get closer

8:57 Speaker 2: and closer a worry that they're going to have him walk.

9:02 Speaker 2: He's a high energy, transition driving middle six winger. He

9:06 Speaker 2: brings a lot of pace, which Boston does not have

9:10 Speaker 2: much of, good for checking pressure, a ton of shot generation,

9:14 Speaker 2: offensive zone movement, and chaos. That's something that we need.

9:19 Speaker 2: But he's not he's not a playmaker per se.

9:23 Speaker 1: He's not flashy. But he does his job. He does

9:26 Speaker 1: his job, he works hard, he's responsible with the puck.

9:31 Speaker 1: He's got good speed, he's got good hands, he has,

9:35 Speaker 1: as you stated, a shoot first mentality, which is was

9:40 Speaker 1: sorely needed by this sorely needed by this team. We're

9:43 Speaker 1: not going to do any revisionist history because it's already

9:46 Speaker 1: hot enough in my office today. I don't want to

9:48 Speaker 1: get myself all worked up. But in sixty nine games,

9:51 Speaker 1: if you had told me that, in just even playing

9:54 Speaker 1: sixty nine games, Victor dwitzten would have contributed twenty five

9:58 Speaker 1: goals and twenty nine assists. Eve been playing a full season.

10:02 Speaker 1: So this player definitely has values. Now the pros and

10:06 Speaker 1: cons of that is another team might see that value

10:11 Speaker 1: as well, and that could translate into a bigger payday

10:15 Speaker 1: for Victor Arvidson. And not a payday that the Ruins

10:19 Speaker 1: can ill afford to fall into. Perhaps I would like

10:23 Speaker 1: him not to be a casualty of a roster that

10:27 Speaker 1: has limited financial flexibility right now.

10:30 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's again, it's what is his ask from his camp.

10:35 Speaker 2: I'm sure that money and term are obviously the biggest

10:39 Speaker 2: sticking points, because that's basically all these contracts are four

10:43 Speaker 2: million dollars. And if you think about who else is

10:46 Speaker 2: out there as a forward, you've got someone like Charlie Coyle,

10:50 Speaker 2: who again this is a pro Charlie Coyle podcast. However,

10:55 Speaker 2: the Columbus Blue Jackets just offered him and absolutely astonished

11:00 Speaker 2: extension for someone who is mostly suited for the third line,

11:07 Speaker 2: can perform well second line. So again, a middle six.

11:12 Speaker 1: Reminds you of listeners of Charlie's deal, because I want

11:16 Speaker 1: to cut out some subtle differences.

11:18 Speaker 2: It's a six year, six million dollar AAV contract. And

11:24 Speaker 2: look and Charlie's how old and Charlie is basically the same.

11:29 Speaker 2: He's thirty four years old and Victor Arvidson is currently

11:34 Speaker 2: he just turned thirty three, so they're the same age. Now, granted,

11:37 Speaker 2: there might be listeners who may say but Charlie is

11:40 Speaker 2: a center and Arvidson is a wing, all right, but

11:44 Speaker 2: we're still talking about a middle six player with different Yeah,

11:48 Speaker 2: they have different skill sets.

11:50 Speaker 1: All the players have skill sets. Charlie has longevity, and

11:54 Speaker 1: when I say longevity, he is a workhorse. He very

11:58 Speaker 1: rarely misses for any significant period of time. And he

12:03 Speaker 1: has also established himself as a leader. He was a

12:08 Speaker 1: leader on that Columbus Blue Jackets team. I think I

12:12 Speaker 1: believe that he exhibited leadership qualities while he was here

12:16 Speaker 1: in Boston. He never was rewarded for that with being

12:20 Speaker 1: provided with an a and I don't even know how

12:22 Speaker 1: often he got an alternating game that someone was out,

12:25 Speaker 1: which sometimes I found a little I don't know, kind

12:27 Speaker 1: of left a little sour taste in my mouth on occasion.

12:29 Speaker 1: But that's where I see the differences in those players.

12:33 Speaker 1: Is that Charlie, Charlie's going to be there the game

12:36 Speaker 1: after game. Now where Victor he's got this history. Now

12:40 Speaker 1: he's going to miss ten fifteen, likely ten to fifteen

12:43 Speaker 1: games a year, if not more than that. You could

12:46 Speaker 1: maybe work that into the equation or a reasonable contract

12:51 Speaker 1: with reasonable term. What I don't want to see the

12:54 Speaker 1: Bruins do is take a thirty three year old forward

12:57 Speaker 1: and give him six or seven years.

13:00 Speaker 4: That's crazy. You can't and I don't think that they would.

13:03 Speaker 3: But there are some crazy contracts up, as we have

13:07 Speaker 3: discussed in previous episodes already, namely the various limp Holme

13:11 Speaker 3: contracts that will put me at.

13:14 Speaker 4: Mid mid middle late thirties.

13:16 Speaker 1: Honestly, if I had a choice in this situation, if

13:19 Speaker 1: both Elias lind Home and I know Elias is a

13:22 Speaker 1: center and Victor is not a center, but if I

13:26 Speaker 1: had to pick and both players were in the same situation, sorry,

13:30 Speaker 1: I'm going to make Victor Arvidson a priority over Elias Lundvill.

13:34 Speaker 1: That's just how I feel about what those players have

13:38 Speaker 1: brought to this roster.

13:40 Speaker 2: Yeah, and for Victor Arvidson, who does this team want

13:44 Speaker 2: to be because it's not just what veteran presence is

13:48 Speaker 2: going to be there. That's going to be a constant

13:50 Speaker 2: or a consistent voice in the room to assist the

13:55 Speaker 2: leadership corps because no matter who ends up as captain,

13:58 Speaker 2: the leadership corps is still younger. And although Pasternak is

14:04 Speaker 2: turning thirty, but what are they going to try and prioritize.

14:08 Speaker 4: Is it going to be that.

14:10 Speaker 2: Defensive structure they're gonna aim to have those shut down

14:14 Speaker 2: games where that's very minimal scoring, or are they going

14:18 Speaker 2: to start to try and invest in more goal scorers.

14:22 Speaker 2: Because if that's the case, then there has to be

14:25 Speaker 2: a very good reason why they would not re sign

14:28 Speaker 2: Victor Arbitson because he not only like we said, his

14:33 Speaker 2: shooting percentage is very high with that shot first mentality,

14:37 Speaker 2: he absolutely performed in a way in regards to the

14:41 Speaker 2: number of goals that he scored and his expected goals.

14:43 Speaker 2: The guy is a sniper. He was one of the

14:45 Speaker 2: top goal scorers. He clearly makes a measurable and meaningful

14:51 Speaker 2: impact on the team's ability to score goals. Listen, what

14:56 Speaker 2: have we been crying about and whinding about for years years?

15:00 Speaker 2: Lack of secondary scoring. Lack of secondary scoring.

15:03 Speaker 1: Now, it did dry up in the playoffs at scoring

15:07 Speaker 1: dried up in the series against Buffalo. If to me,

15:10 Speaker 1: it was somewhat, I don't want to say significant, but problematic.

15:14 Speaker 1: When Victor Arbuston went down with his injury too, I

15:18 Speaker 1: think that had an impact on what the Bruins were

15:22 Speaker 1: or weren't able to do against the Sabers and his

15:26 Speaker 1: impact with the wins above replacement. He has a two

15:29 Speaker 1: point one wins above replacement and four standing points, which

15:33 Speaker 1: means it's effectively the same thing that he If you

15:36 Speaker 1: were to bring in some other average player or replacement player,

15:40 Speaker 1: he was contributing and making two more wins happen than

15:44 Speaker 1: you would expect under other circumstances. That's four more points.

15:47 Speaker 2: And in an Atlantic division that is arguably the best,

15:51 Speaker 2: most competitive division in the entire league, every single stinking

15:56 Speaker 2: point matters, every goal matters. And so what is the

16:00 Speaker 2: alternative I don't know, but his overall impact on the

16:05 Speaker 2: game elevated. I think the product on the ice when

16:08 Speaker 2: it comes to the Boston Bruins, because it's either been

16:11 Speaker 2: for the last couple of years flat or a bit

16:15 Speaker 2: of a circus in not a good way. And so

16:18 Speaker 2: he brought in a level of play, a quality of

16:22 Speaker 2: play where you saw very positive territorial play, a lot

16:27 Speaker 2: of offensive driving value that he brought to the table.

16:30 Speaker 4: And I really hope that we don't.

16:32 Speaker 1: Lose this guy. No, yeah, yes, I agree with you.

16:35 Speaker 1: I would like them to keep him. I see more

16:39 Speaker 1: upside than downside, other than the injury factor with him.

16:43 Speaker 1: I guess what you can say about him is that

16:47 Speaker 1: at least it's not the same injury over and over again.

16:50 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's good or a bad thing.

16:52 Speaker 1: Whereas with Elias Slntolme, all we keep hearing about even

16:55 Speaker 1: from the day, even before he even got here, we

16:58 Speaker 1: keep hearing about this back injury that keeps hindering his

17:02 Speaker 1: play or his ability to play up to the level

17:06 Speaker 1: that we were expecting him to play.

17:09 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.

17:10 Speaker 1: And it sounds like I'm going at Elia slung Woman.

17:13 Speaker 1: Maybe I am a little bit because even when he

17:17 Speaker 1: wasn't or we didn't hear about the back injury, there

17:20 Speaker 1: were stretches where he was invisible. And I don't see

17:23 Speaker 1: that in Victor Arditz. I think we were excited about

17:27 Speaker 1: what this guy could bring to the table. Yes, and

17:31 Speaker 1: he to me, he proved himself worthy, or he has

17:34 Speaker 1: proven himself worthy of getting another contract from the Bruins

17:40 Speaker 1: at a reasonable price. Now he's got a factor in

17:43 Speaker 1: as well. Right, he's thirty three years old. He has

17:46 Speaker 1: a difficult time playing a full season if he likes

17:49 Speaker 1: it well enough here in Boston, and by all accounts,

17:52 Speaker 1: it sounds like he does, and he did. Let's meet

17:56 Speaker 1: in the middle here and make a deal.

17:58 Speaker 2: Agreed, agreed, So I would like to certainly see him

18:01 Speaker 2: come back. If not, then the Bruins are going to

18:04 Speaker 2: have to try and find somebody who can drive the

18:06 Speaker 2: puck the same way.

18:08 Speaker 1: Who is going to now another hole and you're already

18:12 Speaker 1: fulfilled roster, right? Who else can Boston bring in then?

18:17 Speaker 2: Who has the same level of pace that for checking, pressure, transition, offense,

18:24 Speaker 2: possession driving someone who's strung on the puck. We've got

18:26 Speaker 2: a number of players on the Bruins team that they

18:29 Speaker 2: can get the puck, but they can't keep the puck

18:31 Speaker 2: because they just are strong.

18:33 Speaker 1: If you're Audredson and his agency, you're obviously going to

18:37 Speaker 1: use that to your advantage. Right, this might be his

18:39 Speaker 1: last contract. Let's face fast, right it could be. With

18:42 Speaker 1: that being said, you want to make it a good

18:45 Speaker 1: payday for yourself before you sail off into the sunset exactly.

18:49 Speaker 4: So a plus to Victor Arvidson this year.

18:53 Speaker 1: No, it's fun in my see, I'm a heart a

18:55 Speaker 1: great no, because he didn't get a full season. I

18:58 Speaker 1: would give him an a plus or I guess, but

19:01 Speaker 1: I'm like a minus B plus, A minus B plus.

19:05 Speaker 2: For me, the reason why I'm giving him such a

19:07 Speaker 2: high rating is because of just how efficient he was

19:10 Speaker 2: when he was there.

19:12 Speaker 1: I'm just like, it's hard for me to give anybody

19:15 Speaker 1: on the Ruins roster an A plus. I just think

19:19 Speaker 1: that is like a standard of the level of performance

19:23 Speaker 1: is through the room, right, but also.

19:25 Speaker 2: Knowing they knew all of that going into the season,

19:28 Speaker 2: and I think if you look at him from the

19:31 Speaker 2: lens of we know he's injury prone, that it is

19:34 Speaker 2: a possibility. But he made a significant impact while he

19:39 Speaker 2: was there. And I think if for what I hesitate

19:43 Speaker 2: to think, for as stupid as we think the frontal

19:47 Speaker 2: is most of the time, you know that he's going

19:50 Speaker 2: to be likely injury prone, there has to be a plan.

19:53 Speaker 2: There has to be something to manage that. So those

19:58 Speaker 2: things consider a plus.

20:00 Speaker 1: Trade.

20:01 Speaker 2: Let's see a reasonably good signing who or at least

20:04 Speaker 2: someone who can do what.

20:05 Speaker 4: He that's valid the trade itself.

20:08 Speaker 1: The grade on the trade, Yes, I will grant you

20:11 Speaker 1: that that is definitely an A plus because you've got

20:14 Speaker 1: a very serviceable, steady, reliable and when I say reliable,

20:18 Speaker 1: when he's on the ice, he's reliable, you know what

20:20 Speaker 1: trying to get, you know what you're going to get

20:23 Speaker 1: for a draft pick that would likely may not amount

20:26 Speaker 1: to anything. And we know, given the way, honestly, given

20:30 Speaker 1: the way that the Bruins staff assesses young talent, we

20:34 Speaker 1: could have given away a diamond in the rock because

20:37 Speaker 1: they're too numb to see one when they're scouted.

20:39 Speaker 2: So yeah, and I would argue actually that Arvidson probably

20:42 Speaker 2: even overperformed a little bit, or at least maybe not.

20:45 Speaker 2: I certainly didn't expect the amount of goal scoring, but

20:48 Speaker 2: I have to imagine the scouts knew what he's doing.

20:51 Speaker 1: No, but that was a nice find by Marco Stern

20:54 Speaker 1: to put that group together, and Pavel Zaka certainly mows

21:00 Speaker 1: definitely benefited from that. Let's not forget the PAP two.

21:04 Speaker 1: It sounds like, from what's already percolating in the rumor

21:08 Speaker 1: mil that the Bruins are making Populzaka a priority in

21:13 Speaker 1: terms of extending him, and what that contract may be

21:17 Speaker 1: could have an impact on what you do with Arkidson.

21:21 Speaker 4: Could it? Certainly could.

21:22 Speaker 2: You've also got still one more year of Keithy Middlestaff.

21:26 Speaker 2: His contract is a five point seven to five cap hit.

21:30 Speaker 4: That's It's not a cheap line by any stretch.

21:33 Speaker 2: No, no, but if you think about it, the number

21:36 Speaker 2: of points that line scored certainly exceeded what we were

21:41 Speaker 2: saying was a requirement from the second line.

21:44 Speaker 1: By that line basically got the goaltending, and that line

21:48 Speaker 1: basically got them into the playoffs the second half of

21:51 Speaker 1: the season. Late, I would say, late.

21:53 Speaker 2: Yeah, And Zaka he's eligible for a contract extension in

21:58 Speaker 2: July at four to seven. I think you're very correct

22:03 Speaker 2: in your assumption that if they see him as staying

22:06 Speaker 2: part of the Boston Bruins for another stretch of time.

22:10 Speaker 1: He's It sounds like when you read between the lines

22:13 Speaker 1: listening to Neelie and Sweeney, that they want Pavel Zaka

22:17 Speaker 1: to be a part of this rebuild and this kind

22:21 Speaker 1: of core nucleus that you're going to work around.

22:25 Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, so we shall see. It's also entirely possible.

22:28 Speaker 2: Then ultimately what ends up happening is that there's just

22:31 Speaker 2: no room. But I hope that's not the case. But

22:35 Speaker 2: I definitely want to see more players like him come

22:37 Speaker 2: into this lesson's orbit. I think we should preface that

22:39 Speaker 2: first by saying what I want them. What I want

22:42 Speaker 2: to see first is have a clear concise definition of

22:47 Speaker 2: what kind of team you want to be. The going

22:49 Speaker 2: back and forth and going back and forth from one

22:51 Speaker 2: extreme to another. Let's cut the shit now and decide

22:55 Speaker 2: what you want to be as an organization and how

22:58 Speaker 2: you want to play and define it and get players

23:01 Speaker 2: for the most part that play within that system and structure.

23:05 Speaker 2: But we'll see if that comes to fruition. So I

23:08 Speaker 2: think all in all, I think we're both in agreement

23:11 Speaker 2: that Victor Arvidson was a success on the Gruins. We

23:14 Speaker 2: would like to see him return in a Bruins uniform

23:19 Speaker 2: for a reasonable price and a reasonable term. Yes, yep,

23:23 Speaker 2: absolutely so, thank you for listening, folks. We're going to

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