A Quiet Trade Deadline for the Boston Bruins | Bruins News | Ep. 133

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0:50 Speaker 3: Welcome in everyone to another episode of Bruin's Tape to Tape.

0:54 Speaker 3: We are recording today's episode on Monday, March ninth, host

1:00 Speaker 3: Olympic Break where the NHL is back in full swing.

1:04 Speaker 3: I will be your host for today's episode. I'm Maria

1:07 Speaker 3: from Watertown, and I want to welcome in my lovely

1:12 Speaker 3: co host Caroline with a K. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome

1:17 Speaker 3: back to the chaos that is the sprint to the

1:21 Speaker 3: finish of the playoffs of the NHL regular season.

1:25 Speaker 2: Oh my god, Maria, it's a it's a scary time

1:29 Speaker 2: to be a Bruins fan right now. It's very nerve

1:31 Speaker 2: wracking because we're all a little traumatized from a year ago.

1:38 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, we made it through the trade

1:41 Speaker 3: deadline relatively unscathed. But we have lots to digest and

1:48 Speaker 3: break down since the Bruins came back to playing regular

1:51 Speaker 3: season games from the Olympic breaks. Some of it okay,

1:57 Speaker 3: some of it not so okay. So we're going to

2:00 Speaker 3: set the table today. We're going to start with talking

2:04 Speaker 3: about the what the Bruins did or didn't do at

2:08 Speaker 3: the trade deadline. We'll talk about what is now becoming

2:13 Speaker 3: a serious area of concern, which is the Bruins' inability

2:18 Speaker 3: to win on the road. We're going to talk about

2:22 Speaker 3: the madness that will be the finish to this twenty

2:27 Speaker 3: twenty six NHL season, and a little bit of breaking

2:31 Speaker 3: news that happened before we started recording in that and

2:36 Speaker 3: this came through from Scott McLoughlin, in that the Ruins

2:42 Speaker 3: signed a defenceman, Frederick Brunet, to a two year contract

2:50 Speaker 3: extension with an annual cap hit of eight hundred and

2:53 Speaker 3: seventy five thousand dollars. Not earth shattering, but still a decent,

2:58 Speaker 3: decent signing. Yeah, by the Bruins agreed.

3:02 Speaker 2: Well, and we know friend of the Pod Mary Beth

3:06 Speaker 2: has been a fan of Brunets for probably a couple

3:09 Speaker 2: of years now. We've been talking about I'm glad to

3:11 Speaker 2: see that the Bruins are going to give them a chance.

3:15 Speaker 2: So let's before we get into the nitty gritty of

3:18 Speaker 2: everything we need to discuss related to the Bruins, let's

3:22 Speaker 2: do our little spin around the rank because it was,

3:26 Speaker 2: in fact the trade deadline on Friday, And while some

3:31 Speaker 2: teams I think were aggressive, I think other teams were

3:35 Speaker 2: a little bit appalled by the asking prices for some players,

3:40 Speaker 2: and I frankly thought that some general managers would be

3:45 Speaker 2: in a little bit greedy, if I might say so myself.

3:50 Speaker 2: But there were clearly moves that were made by certain

3:53 Speaker 2: teams that clearly show that they're, you know, in a

3:57 Speaker 2: retool or rebuild mode, whatever is the new buzzword that

4:02 Speaker 2: teams are using. And we'll start with the Washington Capitals

4:07 Speaker 2: who raided away, you know, long time legend of legend

4:15 Speaker 2: their more most recent Cup win era, although it's been

4:20 Speaker 2: already oh my god, pushing almost ten years, right. So

4:27 Speaker 2: Don Carlson, John Carlson, who has a very tight relationship

4:33 Speaker 2: with Alex Ovechkin. And now the speculation is, you know

4:38 Speaker 2: it will this be OB's final year? Yeah, I mean,

4:43 Speaker 2: does he want to stick around? But what clearly is

4:48 Speaker 2: a rebuild or retool for the Washington Capitals. Yea. And

4:53 Speaker 2: I wouldn't blame him to not you know, his situation

4:57 Speaker 2: is his particular situation is different than that of Sidney

5:00 Speaker 2: Crosby and the fact that Alex Ovechkin is going to

5:04 Speaker 2: be forty one years old in September, and when sid

5:09 Speaker 2: signed his most recent extension, he's younger. He was born

5:15 Speaker 2: in eighty seven, so he's two years younger than him,

5:19 Speaker 2: so he had more time around to do something and

5:24 Speaker 2: to give back to the organization and try and get

5:28 Speaker 2: it into a good place by the time he were

5:30 Speaker 2: to leave. If Washington is looking at the current situation

5:34 Speaker 2: and saying, Okay, we have to do a retool at

5:37 Speaker 2: forty one years of age, I don't think there is

5:41 Speaker 2: a problem whatsoever with him going off into the sunset

5:47 Speaker 2: at this point in time, because it could take multiple years,

5:51 Speaker 2: and at that particular age, he's already accomplished pretty much

5:55 Speaker 2: everything that any NHL skater would ever want to accomplish,

6:00 Speaker 2: So I wouldn't blame him.

6:05 Speaker 3: And the Tampa Bay Lightning saw the return of Corey Perry,

6:11 Speaker 3: which means she needs signals. You know, they're you know,

6:14 Speaker 3: seriously trying to contend they must have felt that they

6:18 Speaker 3: needed that veteran kind of you know, been there, done

6:23 Speaker 3: that guy. This isn't his first stint with.

6:26 Speaker 2: That's an underscore a goal in his first game there

6:29 Speaker 2: with the Tampa Bay Lightning after the trade deadline too. Yeah, well,

6:34 Speaker 2: him being a veteran of playoff games, high stakes playoff

6:40 Speaker 2: games is an understatement because how many Stanley Cup Game

6:45 Speaker 2: sevens has he been in coming Stanley Cup final games?

6:48 Speaker 2: Has he lost it? I'm right?

6:50 Speaker 3: And it's funny because I heard a commentator I don't

6:54 Speaker 3: know what game I was watching over the weekend, who

6:57 Speaker 3: thought who said that he was pretty certain that Corey

7:01 Speaker 3: Perry would be in the Hall of Fame, but which

7:05 Speaker 3: I kind of like, what really just based on his

7:10 Speaker 3: longevity statistics?

7:11 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't I don't know. Maybe, I mean

7:14 Speaker 2: he even followed his career that closely, but I don't know.

7:17 Speaker 2: I don't know that he would necessarily be a first ballot,

7:21 Speaker 2: but who knows, he could. I guess it could happen.

7:24 Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, it wasn't a great trade deadline.

7:27 Speaker 3: There wasn't a lot of you know, big hockey deals

7:30 Speaker 3: being made for the most part, and I think you know,

7:33 Speaker 3: listening to like you know, Darren Dreger and others talk

7:38 Speaker 3: about the rationale for that is that, you know, the

7:41 Speaker 3: the league itself put a kibosh on the fact that

7:48 Speaker 3: you could turn these contracts and spin them around and say, okay,

7:51 Speaker 3: one team is I forget what the terminology is, but okay,

7:56 Speaker 3: this guy their retention clause, and that has put a

7:59 Speaker 3: bit of a a damper on some of the activities

8:04 Speaker 3: and has hindered some of the you know, the back

8:07 Speaker 3: back and forth, which.

8:09 Speaker 2: I mean, we talked about this, We've talked about this

8:12 Speaker 2: for years now, where I would kind of jokingly call

8:15 Speaker 2: it the financing aspect of a trade deal where how

8:20 Speaker 2: many other teams are going to get involved? And then

8:24 Speaker 2: by retaining a certain portion of that trades salary, you

8:30 Speaker 2: effectively were having other teams pay for your acquisition of

8:36 Speaker 2: a player. You know, were they breaking They weren't breaking

8:42 Speaker 2: rules when they did it, although now it's.

8:44 Speaker 3: No, but they were exploititing once again a loophole at

8:48 Speaker 3: the same correct just like the LTIR clause.

8:52 Speaker 2: And at some point when you feel that people are

8:55 Speaker 2: taking advantage of that and it's being misused. Yeah right,

9:00 Speaker 2: somebody has to step in and make a change, now,

9:04 Speaker 2: does it? Does it? Is it a buzz kill? Yeah,

9:07 Speaker 2: it is a buzz kill. But yeah, Well, I have

9:11 Speaker 2: to say, though, what I love about the trade deadline is,

9:15 Speaker 2: no matter what happens, whether it's a blockbuster crazy day

9:21 Speaker 2: like we all experienced last year or a more quiet

9:26 Speaker 2: affair like it was this year, it still tells you

9:31 Speaker 2: so much about what different gms are thinking about their clubs.

9:35 Speaker 2: So I think the teams that stood out to me

9:39 Speaker 2: in this trade deadline Colorado Avalanche, indicating their seriousness about

9:49 Speaker 2: going all the way. They brought back Nazen Kadri, which

9:52 Speaker 2: I love, love that love that they did some bulking

9:57 Speaker 2: up in that regard. You mentioned into Tampa Bay, which

10:01 Speaker 2: is a team that I wasn't It wasn't that I

10:03 Speaker 2: wasn't considering them in the mix, but we've talked about

10:10 Speaker 2: how the East is very tight, and so because there's

10:14 Speaker 2: gonna be a bloodbeath to get out of the West. Yes,

10:17 Speaker 2: so they signalled to me, Tampa Bay signalled, hey, we

10:23 Speaker 2: really do believe that we can go far. And then

10:30 Speaker 2: what I was again, I'm I'm pleased as a hockey fan,

10:35 Speaker 2: I am not pleased as a Bruins fan, but the

10:39 Speaker 2: Buffalo Sabers for the first time participating in serious business

10:45 Speaker 2: on the trade deadline. Yeah, I mean again Adams, I

10:50 Speaker 2: don't know, I don't know what he'd been doing for years,

10:54 Speaker 2: but he made the organization a joke, a joke. They

10:59 Speaker 2: met business, they were active, and they're saying to everyone,

11:05 Speaker 2: we're not going to squander these last six weeks because

11:09 Speaker 2: it's been has it been fifteen years now, or it's

11:12 Speaker 2: been a long time, it's been a long time. They

11:15 Speaker 2: are in first place in the Atlantic, in the Atlantic

11:20 Speaker 2: right now? Yes, okay, first place. Yes, that's why as

11:24 Speaker 2: a Bruins Fanompton is a beast. Time age to take

11:29 Speaker 2: Thompson is a beast.

11:30 Speaker 3: Yeah, But how do you think they feel talk about

11:33 Speaker 3: a little bit of drama to this trade deadline?

11:35 Speaker 2: Yes.

11:36 Speaker 3: So there's been you know, all kinds of rooms speculation

11:39 Speaker 3: about Robert Thomas from the Saint Louis Blues. Yes, and

11:43 Speaker 3: he apparently lopped a trade. Yes in the Buffalo Sabers. Yes, now,

11:49 Speaker 3: and I understand when that happens, right, it comes out

11:53 Speaker 3: not only does management look bad, but it makes the player,

11:58 Speaker 3: I think to something. Now, the player is only exercising

12:03 Speaker 3: the right to which they negotiated, right, and.

12:06 Speaker 2: There could be a wide variety of reasons. Just because

12:09 Speaker 2: they say no doesn't necessarily mean that they hold some

12:17 Speaker 2: kind of disdain or animosity for that particular organization organization.

12:22 Speaker 2: We thought, Lenis Almark say no to a trade a

12:25 Speaker 2: number of years ago out to California, just a couple

12:29 Speaker 2: of years ago, because anyone's going to be you know,

12:31 Speaker 2: and they're in school. But that's their right.

12:34 Speaker 3: It's their right. Yeah, it's their right to do that, right.

12:37 Speaker 3: But here's what I don't understand. Why would you negotiate

12:43 Speaker 3: and lead the organization to believe because by all accounts,

12:48 Speaker 3: Buffalo believed that they had a deal to bring Robert

12:52 Speaker 3: Thomas to that Do you remember that happened to the

12:54 Speaker 3: Bruins many years ago with Jerome Aginla.

12:57 Speaker 2: I'll never forget it. He were sitting at a at

13:00 Speaker 2: the TD Garden before the trade deadline and looking through

13:05 Speaker 2: social media here reading reports again lit of Boston again,

13:10 Speaker 2: Lit of Boston. We were like Jesus, we don't give

13:12 Speaker 2: a crap what happens with this game today? We got

13:15 Speaker 2: Jerome again from the Penguins.

13:17 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, no, he said no, right, he

13:22 Speaker 3: said no.

13:23 Speaker 2: So but that I do blame management for that, Yes, yeah,

13:30 Speaker 2: I mean, why would you go so far down the

13:35 Speaker 2: negotiation pathway if like, wouldn't you know, wouldn't wouldn't that

13:40 Speaker 2: be a conversation, a priority conversation that you have with

13:46 Speaker 2: said players agent. Hey, we're getting really close to a

13:51 Speaker 2: deal with this team that benefits our organization. Is this

13:55 Speaker 2: gonna fly with your guy? Right? Yeah?

13:59 Speaker 3: But then it all becomes public knowledge, right, and then

14:03 Speaker 3: it right, and so then what happens is sometimes fans

14:07 Speaker 3: being fans, the fan.

14:09 Speaker 2: Base takes it out on said player Claire. Yeah, and

14:15 Speaker 2: you know that's that's that's really crappy. That's really crappy

14:19 Speaker 2: because you don't know necessarily his motivation, right, he doesn't

14:24 Speaker 2: want to go there. He doesn't even have to give

14:26 Speaker 2: you a reason. It's not obligated. If he earned the

14:30 Speaker 2: right to say no, and he's no, that's part of

14:33 Speaker 2: his conscience's prerogative. But those were the teams that I got.

14:38 Speaker 2: Did uh had a really good trade deadline? Obviously there

14:43 Speaker 2: are other teams, the Mammoths too. The Mammoth got Mackenzie Wieger. Yeah, yeah,

14:50 Speaker 2: so it sounds like they're you know, they're not messing

14:52 Speaker 2: around either. They want an opportunity the playoffs, to make

14:56 Speaker 2: the playoffs and make some noise. I mean, I think

14:59 Speaker 2: I've said it a couple times on this pot the Cup.

15:03 Speaker 2: The Cup is going to go through the West this year.

15:06 Speaker 3: I will be shocked, shocked if any team out of

15:11 Speaker 3: the East ends up hoisting the Stanley Cup this year.

15:15 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I agree. I think, not to say that

15:19 Speaker 2: the West is easier, but the fact that in the East,

15:26 Speaker 2: the let's see the how many points does the last

15:33 Speaker 2: place team have? I mean, Seattle has sixty seven points

15:41 Speaker 2: and the fifteenth placed Toronto Maple Leafs in the East

15:47 Speaker 2: have sixty five.

15:49 Speaker 3: God, I hope they don't make Oh God, wouldn't that

15:52 Speaker 3: be delicious to tell them?

15:55 Speaker 2: Like it just it just goes to show you just

15:58 Speaker 2: how much more competitive the East is. The fact that

16:02 Speaker 2: almost every single team in the East would be right

16:08 Speaker 2: in the thick of the West for a top spot.

16:14 Speaker 2: It's crazy, it's crazy. But you know, with that particular

16:18 Speaker 2: trade and then also the cadri trade that also signaled

16:23 Speaker 2: that you know, Calgary was trying to make a push

16:27 Speaker 2: before the Olympic break to see if they could really

16:29 Speaker 2: turn things around because things were starting to get better

16:32 Speaker 2: for them, and I think that they then decided to

16:38 Speaker 2: make the leap before it was too late and opted

16:44 Speaker 2: to go the retooling route as opposed to trying to

16:52 Speaker 2: make something happen and then have a highly disappointing end.

16:57 Speaker 2: So I have respect for teams like that because they're

17:03 Speaker 2: not more going to happen in the off season, I

17:05 Speaker 2: think once yeah, and they're not throwing in the towel,

17:08 Speaker 2: per se or send enough their team for failure like

17:12 Speaker 2: the Bruins. But I think some gms were trying to

17:15 Speaker 2: fleece each other. And I'm glad that the gms on

17:18 Speaker 2: the other end were like, yeah, no, hell no, top

17:23 Speaker 2: prospects and picks and we'll get to that as it

17:25 Speaker 2: re leads.

17:26 Speaker 3: To the Bruins. But it just seemed like, you know,

17:31 Speaker 3: some gms again were trying to fleece other gms and

17:35 Speaker 3: maybe see how vulnerable are desperate other teams would be.

17:41 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I think there was also a lot more

17:43 Speaker 2: sellers this year than in the past, and so if

17:48 Speaker 2: people were trying to get you know, if there were

17:52 Speaker 2: gms who had a lot of parts that they wanted

17:55 Speaker 2: to sell, but nobody wanted them. Others wanted other parts

18:00 Speaker 2: of the team. They found themselves in a situation where

18:05 Speaker 2: they could say, all right, we'll give me some completely

18:07 Speaker 2: outrageous right right right right, so, and don't look now,

18:12 Speaker 2: but the Buffalo Saber I mean, that's this is crazy.

18:15 Speaker 2: They they could be this year's Cinderella story. Honestly, they

18:20 Speaker 2: really could. Can you imagine?

18:24 Speaker 3: And I and I have to say, you know, I'm

18:26 Speaker 3: always rooting for our Boston Bruins when loser draw, but

18:31 Speaker 3: if and when that changes, I'm going to be pulling

18:33 Speaker 3: for these Sabers.

18:34 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think their fan base deserves I agree. I

18:38 Speaker 2: agree the long suffering Buffalo fans. I mean that's just

18:43 Speaker 2: I think. I'm also just a hockey fan. I'm also

18:46 Speaker 2: a hockey fan, and yes, I love good hockey and

18:49 Speaker 2: I and who doesn't like a Cinderella story? Absolutely? Yeah, yeah,

18:56 Speaker 2: So the trade deadline was you know, I don't know

18:58 Speaker 2: I would give it a if I had to give

19:00 Speaker 2: it a grade in terms of, you know, the wow factor. See, yeah,

19:08 Speaker 2: I didn't think there was anything wow about it this year. Yeah, yeah,

19:14 Speaker 2: I mean there weren't with the with the trade deadline

19:18 Speaker 2: being frozen for so long too because of the Olympic break.

19:24 Speaker 2: You know, the big name Panarin happened before, and then

19:28 Speaker 2: everyone kind of forgot about it because it happened literally before,

19:33 Speaker 2: And I feel like the cadri story got buried. I didn't.

19:40 Speaker 2: I wasn't through our chat and I missed it and

19:45 Speaker 2: it came out. It's like it was not at it.

19:48 Speaker 3: I think that came in under the wire. I think

19:51 Speaker 3: that deal came in under the wire. The other the

19:54 Speaker 3: deal that wasn't done, which everyone was expecting to have done,

19:58 Speaker 3: which would have been the Rangers dealing off any Trocheck.

20:03 Speaker 3: And to the credit of the Rangers, right, they weren't

20:06 Speaker 3: getting the offer of the return that they felt they should.

20:10 Speaker 3: So still a good player, and you're not going to

20:12 Speaker 3: give someone away for nothing, you know, how does that

20:16 Speaker 3: help you retool or rebuild? So he is still a

20:21 Speaker 3: New York Rangers for the time being.

20:23 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but we'll see when the season is done

20:31 Speaker 2: just how quickly they might try to flip him. All

20:34 Speaker 2: though anybody that they might legitimately want potentially they can't

20:39 Speaker 2: even make an offer for until June or closer to

20:44 Speaker 2: the to the free agency and the draft.

20:47 Speaker 3: I don't even know when the draft is. You know,

20:49 Speaker 3: sometimes deals get made during the draft. Yeah too final week.

20:55 Speaker 3: So that's that's our spin around the rink with regard

20:58 Speaker 3: to the trade deadline. A couple of other pieces of

21:02 Speaker 3: news across the league, one of which was again Guinny

21:07 Speaker 3: Malkin being suspended for five games for what was an egregious,

21:14 Speaker 3: egregious stick.

21:16 Speaker 2: Yeah.

21:16 Speaker 3: I don't know what the hell he was thinking, but

21:19 Speaker 3: I think he should think his lucky styles. He only

21:22 Speaker 3: got five games for what he did.

21:25 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd say ever since the Freddie incident, Yes, the

21:31 Speaker 2: league has had a different tune about that because they

21:36 Speaker 2: screwed it up as usual, and they screwed it up

21:42 Speaker 2: as usual. Yeah, so at least now they're actually taking

21:46 Speaker 2: it seriously because that was Yeah, that was pretty bad. Yeah,

21:53 Speaker 2: it was gross. It was gross.

21:55 Speaker 3: And then some injury news is that Gabriel Landska of

22:00 Speaker 3: the Colorado Avalanche is a week to week with a

22:05 Speaker 3: flow of body injury.

22:07 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I believe it was quite the shot to

22:13 Speaker 2: the crotch and the cup was dented. So it's a

22:18 Speaker 2: good thing. He already has children. Oh fi dopy then,

22:23 Speaker 2: so I wouldn't even begin to guess what the recovery

22:26 Speaker 2: time is as such as that. Yeah, that poor man

22:30 Speaker 2: has had touch a break, right. Yeah. Well, you know

22:36 Speaker 2: we said before with Colorado, when he was out in January,

22:43 Speaker 2: that it was good for Colorado because they could experience

22:46 Speaker 2: some adversity. I'll be really curious to see how they

22:50 Speaker 2: handle this round. I don't think that they will have trouble,

22:55 Speaker 2: especially with the new guys and the new old guys

23:01 Speaker 2: who have made their way back to the Colorado Avalanche.

23:06 Speaker 2: I'm not worried about them. I think they'll be fine. Yeah,

23:10 Speaker 2: I think it was it's cup of bust for them.

23:12 Speaker 2: I think it would such they're putting all their shipment. Yeah, yeah,

23:17 Speaker 2: such a disappointment. So let's segue into the Ruins. Yes,

23:25 Speaker 2: and thoughts on their trade deadline for this season now

23:32 Speaker 2: very stark contrast to what happened last season. We don't

23:37 Speaker 2: want to regurgitate fires the implosion, the implosion that happened

23:44 Speaker 2: last season.

23:45 Speaker 3: And you know, I know that there was some there

23:48 Speaker 3: were some comments made leading up to the trade deadline,

23:53 Speaker 3: both by Don Sweeney saying that he felt that they

23:56 Speaker 3: owed it to this team because I think some of

24:02 Speaker 3: it is. So his commentary was a dot that he

24:05 Speaker 3: felt that he owed it to the players in the

24:07 Speaker 3: room that had been working hard, doing a good job, okay,

24:12 Speaker 3: to maybe try to make the team stronger, yep, great,

24:15 Speaker 3: to which I say, Okay, Donnie. I think some of

24:18 Speaker 3: it is also due to the fact that I'm I'm

24:24 Speaker 3: very confident that there is no appetite on the part

24:28 Speaker 3: of Bruin's ownership to have another season with no playoffs

24:33 Speaker 3: in the TV Garden, And so I think that some

24:39 Speaker 3: of Donnie's decision making may have also been influenced by.

24:45 Speaker 2: That being thrown in the back of his in the

24:50 Speaker 2: back of his mind. Right.

24:52 Speaker 3: So I didn't expect them to part with any key

24:59 Speaker 3: or corporate players this season because I know how the

25:02 Speaker 3: mind minds of the Jacobs family works, right, Because if

25:07 Speaker 3: they don't make the playoffs for the second year in

25:11 Speaker 3: a row, I can't imagine what's going to happen at

25:15 Speaker 3: the TV Garden offices.

25:17 Speaker 2: Right, I can't imagine. I can't. Well, I can, and

25:22 Speaker 2: let's hoping you're the best, right right.

25:25 Speaker 3: And then coupled with the comment made by Morgan Geeky

25:34 Speaker 3: shortly before the trade deadline. When asked about, you know,

25:37 Speaker 3: the difference between the feelings from last year's tried to

25:41 Speaker 3: deadline and so this year's, his thoughts were, quote unquote,

25:48 Speaker 3: it kind of feels polar opposite, to be honest, I

25:51 Speaker 3: think this group's done a great job of kind of

25:55 Speaker 3: putting ourselves in the position to stand hat or guys

26:00 Speaker 3: whatever they see fit. Yep, Morgan Geek told Bridget Grew

26:05 Speaker 3: of w EEI yes.

26:07 Speaker 1: So right.

26:09 Speaker 3: When you hear one of your poor players, right, because

26:13 Speaker 3: he is now one of your core players who has

26:16 Speaker 3: also been a significant reason why you've had some sustained success,

26:22 Speaker 3: how can you think about moving right, said player? Because

26:29 Speaker 3: apparently Don Sweeney was asked by two teams about Morgan

26:34 Speaker 3: Geek or moving Victor Ardvidsen or moving Pavel soakaka right,

26:40 Speaker 3: what would that do to your role?

26:42 Speaker 2: Honestly? Right? I mean we know what it did to

26:45 Speaker 2: the room when they cleaned house of basically all of

26:52 Speaker 2: the veteran leadership last year. We saw what happened. I

26:58 Speaker 2: was worried about Arvidson because I'd been hoping that they

27:05 Speaker 2: would extend him, and rumor has it that they actually

27:10 Speaker 2: are working on an extension for him, which is good,

27:14 Speaker 2: well deserved, but I was genuinely concerned because there's a

27:20 Speaker 2: degree of distrust, at least in my regard of Bruin's

27:25 Speaker 2: management to make the right decision, and thinking, you know,

27:28 Speaker 2: he is a very valuable piece of the team. Is

27:32 Speaker 2: he a core element in the way that Morgan Geekie,

27:40 Speaker 2: David Pasternach, you know, Chucky, some of these guys are

27:45 Speaker 2: right right right. Maybe not, although now I kind of

27:49 Speaker 2: question that maybe he kind of is moving into that realm.

27:54 Speaker 2: But I was genuinely worried. I was really curious to

27:58 Speaker 2: see if they would deal corpus Allo at the deadline,

28:03 Speaker 2: and who knows, again, that could be one of those

28:08 Speaker 2: situations where they shopped him around and it really wasn't

28:12 Speaker 2: worth it because he's generally had a decent season and

28:16 Speaker 2: he's helped with the workload for swaymen, because we know

28:19 Speaker 2: that Sway just cannot do more than three starts in

28:24 Speaker 2: any reliable way. That's gonna I'm sorry, I'm tired of

28:29 Speaker 2: giving this kid that lattitude. Okay, if you're going to

28:33 Speaker 2: be the guy, agree, you're going to make a legitimate

28:37 Speaker 2: run to get into the playoffs. I'm sorry, the majority

28:41 Speaker 2: of the worklow has to be bared by Jeremy Swayman.

28:47 Speaker 2: I agree. Okay, look at Colorado. Look at Colorado's goaltenders.

28:51 Speaker 2: Couldn't play that game coming back from the break? What

28:54 Speaker 2: the hell was that all about? Still hungover?

28:59 Speaker 3: Okay, this is what's going to get And maybe it's

29:02 Speaker 3: not his decision. Fully, I don't think it is. I

29:05 Speaker 3: don't understand. But I'm sorry. You were paying this kid

29:10 Speaker 3: to be your number one and if he's not going

29:12 Speaker 3: to bear the majority of the workload and suck it

29:16 Speaker 3: up and figure out how to play three games in

29:21 Speaker 3: a series, right, and we're in big freaking trouble. I agree,

29:26 Speaker 3: you know, and we've said time and time again that

29:28 Speaker 3: goaltenders win Cups. And one of the reasons.

29:32 Speaker 2: Why I think that Colorado it. I would almost go

29:37 Speaker 2: as far as to say that the Cup is theirs

29:40 Speaker 2: to lose. Granted, playoffs are a totally different beast. I

29:43 Speaker 2: understand that. However, they're goaltenders machines. The number of games

29:52 Speaker 2: I can't remember which one is because they got this

29:55 Speaker 2: almost the same last name, Wedgwood, Blackwood, whatever the heck.

29:59 Speaker 2: His name is mckn the Blackwood is the one that's

30:02 Speaker 2: been playing an absurd amount of games, whatever the fact

30:06 Speaker 2: that at the start of the season he was already

30:08 Speaker 2: playing almost every game for weeks, almost like the goaltenders

30:15 Speaker 2: of twenty five years ago. Yeah, yeah, you don't see

30:18 Speaker 2: that anymore. And no, I got the guy who's gonna

30:21 Speaker 2: carry you to the Cup final.

30:24 Speaker 3: I mean, it's just and you know, they they don't

30:29 Speaker 3: have a lot of wigglewoom with the way that the

30:33 Speaker 3: standings are in their conference. Like it, Yeah, you gave

30:37 Speaker 3: yourself and we'll get to the games that they recently played.

30:41 Speaker 3: And you're leaving points on the table that you can

30:48 Speaker 3: ill afford to leave on the table when you're in

30:52 Speaker 3: a position that you can create a good deal more separation.

30:57 Speaker 2: It is.

30:58 Speaker 3: It's nabnate. And you know, I understand you're trying to

31:03 Speaker 3: balance workloads, you're trying to keep your backup goalie somewhat

31:09 Speaker 3: sharp in the case of an emergency, But right this

31:13 Speaker 3: is going to be a mad dash to the finish here.

31:16 Speaker 3: And if Swayman can't play three games in one week

31:19 Speaker 3: with the day of rest in between, what are we

31:22 Speaker 3: doing here?

31:22 Speaker 2: I don't know what are we doing here? I don't know,

31:25 Speaker 2: and we've already kind of heard to some degree the

31:32 Speaker 2: fact that Jereby Swayman is already getting the tu Karesque treatment, which,

31:37 Speaker 2: let me just say, two things can be true right

31:40 Speaker 2: in this particular instance. One, do I think that Boston

31:48 Speaker 2: sports media talking heads generally casual, uninformed fans, are they

31:56 Speaker 2: already starting to kind of, you know, crap up on

32:00 Speaker 2: him like they did? Yeah, it's however, it has already

32:06 Speaker 2: started here with our one of.

32:10 Speaker 3: Our local sports talk radio shows, the same show, the

32:15 Speaker 3: same show that spent years crapping all over Tokarass, turning

32:22 Speaker 3: the fan base against Tukarass. Some of the criticism was justifiable,

32:29 Speaker 3: not always, not always, because there was a core group

32:34 Speaker 3: in front of Tuka that cracked their pants along with Yes, hookah,

32:41 Speaker 3: this is now a transition. Okay, we we have a core,

32:47 Speaker 3: but we don't know if it's the core for the

32:49 Speaker 3: entirety of Swaymen and mccaboy and Pasta's career. Here, okay,

32:56 Speaker 3: early days of whatever this new era is. And I'm

32:58 Speaker 3: not ready. I'm not ready to go down that road.

33:02 Speaker 3: And I want to caution the people who are going

33:05 Speaker 3: down that road. Is this is why we can't have

33:08 Speaker 3: nice things in Boston. The kid is going to be

33:13 Speaker 3: a really, really good goaltender. Yes, but you're not doing

33:19 Speaker 3: any favors when you hand him right this eight million

33:24 Speaker 3: dollar deal and you're playing them every other day. That

33:28 Speaker 3: doesn't if he's the guy, he's got to show that

33:32 Speaker 3: he's the guy exactly. The organization has got to show

33:38 Speaker 3: that he is the guy.

33:41 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's right now, he's kind of existing in this

33:46 Speaker 2: mushy middle ware. And I'm not blaming I'm not blaming him.

33:49 Speaker 2: I'm not blaming him.

33:50 Speaker 3: I'm just I'm just putting out the warning signal that

33:56 Speaker 3: if if that doesn't change, what will happen is the

34:02 Speaker 3: fan base will, yes turn against Swayman. They will, they will,

34:10 Speaker 3: you know, and they'll blame him for the money. Listen,

34:12 Speaker 3: that's what they offered him, right, Blame management too. Okay,

34:16 Speaker 3: it's it's a two way, you know, two way deal here.

34:19 Speaker 2: Yeah. But yeah, but he's he's got to step up.

34:24 Speaker 3: He has got to step up and show Okay, I

34:28 Speaker 3: want to be the guy.

34:29 Speaker 2: I'm going to be the guy. Yes, yeah, I think

34:34 Speaker 2: and listeners can certainly call us out on it if

34:38 Speaker 2: they think we're not doing this. But I think that

34:42 Speaker 2: there is a difference between not criticize it, critiquing Swayman's

34:52 Speaker 2: play and pointing out when he does well or does

34:57 Speaker 2: poorly that that is not the same same thing as

35:01 Speaker 2: giving the Rask treatment to him, because I still think

35:08 Speaker 2: that Jeremy Swayman is an incredible goaltender. I mean I

35:13 Speaker 2: never would I never really bought into the Rask treatment either.

35:16 Speaker 2: I mean I think took a Rask goat. I mean

35:20 Speaker 2: equit literally is a lot a lot of it, A

35:22 Speaker 2: lot of it was was skewed and to some degree.

35:29 Speaker 3: Unwarranted, and I think people forget, forget what playoff it was,

35:36 Speaker 3: and it was a series against the Toronto made beliefs

35:39 Speaker 3: that went I believe seven games. Were it not for

35:42 Speaker 3: Tuc Rass, were it not for toukarasque Yes, in that series,

35:48 Speaker 3: there would have been no Stanley Cup Finals. And I

35:51 Speaker 3: believe that there was one game, maybe two where he

35:54 Speaker 3: faced over fifty shots.

35:56 Speaker 2: Right right when you put the entire failure of the organization,

36:03 Speaker 2: you know, from the time of twenty eleven through twenty nineteen,

36:07 Speaker 2: which I would argue, whereas the golden age of the

36:12 Speaker 2: modern Boston Bruins when they should have won three Stanley Cups.

36:21 Speaker 2: To turn around and put the failure of the team

36:25 Speaker 2: and the organization to accomplish that all on just the

36:28 Speaker 2: goaltender is ridiculous. It's foolish, it's uninformed, it's idiotic. You can't,

36:36 Speaker 2: you can't, and that is the Rask treatment.

36:40 Speaker 3: Yes, well, and I think unfortunately there's still a tendency

36:46 Speaker 3: in this region, and as it relates to the Bruins,

36:49 Speaker 3: to continuously go back and look at what Tim Thomas

36:53 Speaker 3: did in the two thousand and eleven Stanley Cup finals. Yeah,

36:58 Speaker 3: he was tremendous that that defense in front of him

37:03 Speaker 3: was a wrecking ball as well.

37:06 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's a reason why. So yes, I'm

37:11 Speaker 2: going to give the goalie credit.

37:12 Speaker 3: Of course, I'm going to give the goalie credit, right,

37:14 Speaker 3: but you also have to give the guys in front

37:18 Speaker 3: some credit as well.

37:20 Speaker 2: There's a reason why goalie coaches teach kids who play

37:26 Speaker 2: the position to play more like Tuka or more like

37:32 Speaker 2: Swaymen than to play like Tim Thomas. There's a reason.

37:38 Speaker 2: And you know, I'm not taking anything away from Tim Thomas,

37:42 Speaker 2: Like you said, he was an unreal goaltender, but he

37:49 Speaker 2: was not a technical goaltender, and if you're that style

37:56 Speaker 2: of goalie, it's gonna be a lot harder for you

37:59 Speaker 2: to be successful in it. At the end of the day,

38:02 Speaker 2: no matter what sport it is, if it's a sport

38:04 Speaker 2: with a goaltender, you're always going to be opened up

38:10 Speaker 2: to the blame and the criticism for the loss that

38:14 Speaker 2: a team faces, because that's just human nature to look

38:19 Speaker 2: at the goalie instead of looking at the forward players

38:23 Speaker 2: in any other sport and saying, well, why didn't the

38:25 Speaker 2: forward players just score more goals? Right right, right?

38:30 Speaker 3: So, But speaking of a little bit game, I know,

38:38 Speaker 3: but we just I just wanted to touch upon the

38:40 Speaker 3: one deal that the Bruins did at the trade deadline

38:43 Speaker 3: and get your thoughts on that, because I know nothing

38:45 Speaker 3: about this player other than what I've recently read. Is

38:50 Speaker 3: that the Bruins acquired for Lucas Rachel from the Canucks

38:56 Speaker 3: in exchange for a twenty twenty six sixth mon draft

39:00 Speaker 3: He's played, He's only He's twenty three, played in nineteen

39:05 Speaker 3: games with Vancouver and Chicago, two goals and three assists

39:10 Speaker 3: with five points. Six foot one hundred and seventy pounds

39:15 Speaker 3: forward has played one hundred and eighty eight career NHL

39:20 Speaker 3: games with Vancouver and Chicago, totaling twenty two goals thirty

39:25 Speaker 3: seven assists for fifty nine points from Germany, which we

39:30 Speaker 3: know Marco probably has some familiarity with them and knows him. Well,

39:35 Speaker 3: I don't know, what do you think? That's fine? I

39:37 Speaker 3: just think, no big, no big deal.

39:39 Speaker 2: I'm intrigued. You know, he's the first German player on

39:43 Speaker 2: the Bruins since Seidenberg. So it's been a minute. And

39:49 Speaker 2: like you said, he's a he's a young kid. He's

39:52 Speaker 2: twenty three years old. He's already played for two other teams.

39:56 Speaker 2: He came into the league with the Blackhawks. So he

40:02 Speaker 2: was signed back in the twenty one twenty two season

40:07 Speaker 2: and he played there till twenty twenty four, and then

40:12 Speaker 2: in twenty four, twenty five RFA arbitration. In what did

40:20 Speaker 2: we say, Well, he signed, Yeah, where did he come from? Then? Vancouver?

40:25 Speaker 2: He said, Rancouver, Yeah he was. He's been already moved

40:29 Speaker 2: around a little bit. Yeah, but he has, he's bounced

40:32 Speaker 2: around a little bit. I mean that doesn't totally concern me,

40:35 Speaker 2: because again with these young with these younger players, sometimes

40:42 Speaker 2: it's just there's no room for them or it's not

40:46 Speaker 2: the right fit. So like Mara hus Nadinov is a

40:49 Speaker 2: perfect example of that. He was barely being used fourth

40:53 Speaker 2: line in Minnesota and look at him now. So this kid,

41:00 Speaker 2: we'll be keeping a close eye on him. I mean

41:02 Speaker 2: I already had heard of him before he became a Bruin,

41:08 Speaker 2: So hopefully that works out.

41:12 Speaker 3: That's all I The other the other deals that Johnny

41:16 Speaker 3: made was they acquired forwards Alexis Jendron and Massimo Resolved

41:24 Speaker 3: from the Philadelphia Flyers.

41:26 Speaker 2: How's zach that?

41:28 Speaker 3: Oh my god, in exchange for forward Brett Harrison and

41:33 Speaker 3: defenseman Jackson Edward. Yep, again, nothing you know to set

41:39 Speaker 3: off fireworks.

41:40 Speaker 2: But yeah, although I do remember Harrison, you know, we

41:43 Speaker 2: really liked him rookie camp. So but again, Boston is

41:51 Speaker 2: in a position where we actually see a lot of

41:56 Speaker 2: really really good young talent and all of these guys like,

42:02 Speaker 2: there's only so much room. There's only so much room,

42:06 Speaker 2: And unfortunately they had enough value for Johnny Boy's purposes.

42:14 Speaker 2: And we'll see what kind of come from that because

42:17 Speaker 2: I have no idea who those guys really actually are. Well,

42:21 Speaker 2: and and you know this, this quiet trade deadline has

42:25 Speaker 2: led to a little bit of speculation about James Hagens.

42:31 Speaker 3: Yes, once BC's season ends, because it doesn't look like

42:35 Speaker 3: they're going to be making the Frozen four signing.

42:38 Speaker 2: Him, and maybe we'll you know, we might see, Yeah,

42:43 Speaker 2: we'll see. But we might see.

42:46 Speaker 3: James Hagens with with the big boys at some point

42:49 Speaker 3: either before the end of the season or you know,

42:51 Speaker 3: maybe during the during the playoffs if the Bruins make

42:55 Speaker 3: the playoffs. And so now we'll get into the nitty

42:59 Speaker 3: gritty of that situation.

43:02 Speaker 2: Please with that.

43:03 Speaker 3: Boston Bruins, okay, suh. When last we met, the Bruins

43:11 Speaker 3: have played one, two, three, well six games yep, six

43:16 Speaker 3: games since coming back from the All Star break. We

43:23 Speaker 3: had on the twenty sixth a victory at home against

43:28 Speaker 3: the Blue Jackets, who have been nipping at the Bruins scales.

43:32 Speaker 3: So that was a four to two win. Then they

43:36 Speaker 3: go to Philadelphia on Saturday the twenty eighth and loose

43:41 Speaker 3: to the freaking Flyers on the road three to one.

43:46 Speaker 3: They come back home on March third to a team

43:50 Speaker 3: that has Pittsburgh Penguins, no Sydney Crosby, no Malkin, and

43:57 Speaker 3: eke out a two to one win. If I'm remembering correctly,

44:01 Speaker 3: Jeremy Swayman was had to be excellent in that game.

44:07 Speaker 2: Then we fast forward to March fifth at Nashville, which

44:12 Speaker 2: is a bad team, folks. It's a bad team. Yeah,

44:16 Speaker 2: even with Steven Stamkos. Yeah, they're a bad team. They

44:21 Speaker 2: lose friggin' six to three, six to three, all right.

44:27 Speaker 2: Then they come back home March seventh to face the Capitals.

44:31 Speaker 2: Took an empty net goal to solidify that win three

44:35 Speaker 2: to one. Wasn't pretty.

44:37 Speaker 3: None of these games, No, none of these games have

44:40 Speaker 3: been pretty, even the ones at all Yesterday, It would

44:43 Speaker 3: have been if they didn't completely.

44:46 Speaker 1: Yesterday, Sunday, March eighth, they have a three to nothing

44:51 Speaker 1: lead against the Pittsburgh Penguins once again, who have no

44:57 Speaker 1: Sydney Crosby, no Malkin, and they blow it.

45:02 Speaker 3: They and blow it yep f and blow it with

45:09 Speaker 3: their own once again, self inflicted wounds, stupid penalties, stupid penalties,

45:18 Speaker 3: and guys who were standing around refusing to do anything.

45:23 Speaker 3: I'm not even talking about the defensive structure, literally standing

45:29 Speaker 3: around doing nothing.

45:32 Speaker 2: Yes. Yeah, Unfortunately, these games have been difficult to watch.

45:42 Speaker 2: I recently put out a post on our substack going

45:47 Speaker 2: into the trade deadline talking about what Boston is doing

45:53 Speaker 2: really well right now and what they actually need, And

45:58 Speaker 2: you know, I didn't have an answer for who is

46:00 Speaker 2: the actual person who can fill these needs. But looking

46:05 Speaker 2: at how they've performed all season, I mean, it's of

46:11 Speaker 2: course they have strong home performance effect wonderful, They've had

46:20 Speaker 2: generally really strong goaltending. Yes, their goal margins, they've been

46:27 Speaker 2: in the positive for quite a while now in the

46:30 Speaker 2: goal differential and their possession. They maintain their puck possession

46:36 Speaker 2: in high important situations for the most part. However, the

46:40 Speaker 2: things that they need to work on their biggest negative drivers,

46:45 Speaker 2: the things that are hurting their playoff chances the most,

46:50 Speaker 2: are all the things that also happened this week, So

46:55 Speaker 2: possession generation. The team is not controlling possession nearly enough.

47:01 Speaker 2: They have a very voluable transition so their rush defense

47:06 Speaker 2: and their rush offense is unstable, which we saw their

47:12 Speaker 2: transition margin pressure. So transition advantage completely disappears in these

47:16 Speaker 2: tighter games. And it's not that these games started tight.

47:25 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh let's use as an example, because they obviously came

47:28 Speaker 2: out pretty strong. I was highly impressed with the team

47:31 Speaker 2: that I saw in the first half of the game,

47:33 Speaker 2: but as Pittsburgh was able to kind of all right,

47:38 Speaker 2: they got a goal. Whatever, fine, I'm not expecting shutouts.

47:42 Speaker 2: You know, eighty games a year. They get a goal. Well,

47:47 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, now you've got this momentum going

47:49 Speaker 2: for Pittsburgh and they start to believe, okay, we can

47:52 Speaker 2: maybe eke out another goal. Next thing you know, it's

47:55 Speaker 2: three to two, and now it is a tight game,

47:59 Speaker 2: and that transition advantage completely disappears. And they're special teams.

48:04 Speaker 2: I mean, talk about a dichotomy. Once again. You have

48:10 Speaker 2: a team that is fifth in the power play, although

48:13 Speaker 2: it seems that's shocking to me because it feels like

48:18 Speaker 2: whenever they're on the power play, you still can't rely

48:21 Speaker 2: on them to actually score when they need to score,

48:24 Speaker 2: which makes me then wonder what the heck is everyone

48:27 Speaker 2: else's powerplay look like out there, and the penalty kill

48:32 Speaker 2: is atrocious, Like, yeah, I don't know what is going

48:37 Speaker 2: on there.

48:38 Speaker 3: I will say that I was impressed with the movement

48:43 Speaker 3: on the power play against the Penguins, Yes, and it

48:48 Speaker 3: seems like they're being much more aggressive on the power

48:52 Speaker 3: play because Charlie McAvoy is definitely been told to pinch

49:01 Speaker 3: down even further and make his way closer to the

49:04 Speaker 3: net and shoot more right. So I think that is

49:09 Speaker 3: something that has been changed and they have to be

49:11 Speaker 3: given a little bit of credit for that. Did penalty kill?

49:16 Speaker 3: I don't know what the hell is going on with that?

49:20 Speaker 3: Something is I mean, let's start by saying that the

49:26 Speaker 3: compounding of errors, the compounding of errors. When first of all,

49:33 Speaker 3: yesterday's game, Jonathan Asboro had an awful game, especially in

49:37 Speaker 3: the third period.

49:38 Speaker 2: I wonder if he's maybe still unwell though he I

49:42 Speaker 2: don't know the Nashville game due to illness. Yeah, but

49:47 Speaker 2: he was just exposed.

49:49 Speaker 3: That was against a Bubbs Burt and then you know,

49:53 Speaker 3: so he was he who took a penalty, and then

49:55 Speaker 3: right after that, lindhol takes a stupid stick in fraction

50:00 Speaker 3: that gives Pittsburgh an extended five on three.

50:06 Speaker 2: It was just a mess. It was just an absolute

50:08 Speaker 2: mess yesterday. Yeah. Yeah, Well, and at the end of

50:13 Speaker 2: the day, you know, Boston, when it comes to their

50:17 Speaker 2: core team ability, and I talk about this in the

50:20 Speaker 2: substack article, their baseline play driving is somewhat weak, especially

50:28 Speaker 2: with possession and scoring generation, you know a game. They'll

50:34 Speaker 2: have games where they have scoring depth and it's a

50:40 Speaker 2: beautiful thing and you're like, yes, this is exactly what

50:42 Speaker 2: we need to see so we can actually make the

50:44 Speaker 2: playoffs and go deep into the playoffs. And then there

50:49 Speaker 2: are the games where they're in out of the penalty

50:51 Speaker 2: box and they just are unable to generate any scoring

50:59 Speaker 2: because those key guys who can get the ball rolling

51:04 Speaker 2: can't be out there. So well, I think I'm going

51:09 Speaker 2: to disagree with you a little bit because I think

51:11 Speaker 2: we're making excuses for some of those big guys well

51:14 Speaker 2: not played well. They have not played well, and I'm

51:18 Speaker 2: going to have no stats with you.

51:19 Speaker 3: They got to get their heads out of their asses

51:21 Speaker 3: and can't ask not he got his first goal yesterday

51:25 Speaker 3: in eight but he's been m i A since the break.

51:30 Speaker 3: Pinky has been m i A, Elias Lindhall, Nikita Zadora.

51:35 Speaker 3: These are all guys who has been m i A

51:39 Speaker 3: since coming back from the Olympic break. And let me

51:43 Speaker 3: share this, okay stat with you now. In these six

51:49 Speaker 3: games since the break, victor Ardbitson leads the team in points,

51:57 Speaker 3: which is seven points and a plus six. Then we

52:02 Speaker 3: have Ksey Middlestaff with five points I'm sorry, full points

52:08 Speaker 3: plus five, Camphis Lindt Home two points plus four.

52:15 Speaker 2: All right. Then we go down to the guys who

52:18 Speaker 2: we would expect to see at the top there, all right, yep,

52:23 Speaker 2: Elias Lindhome three points minus five, David Pastronach full points

52:30 Speaker 2: minus six, Morgan Geeky three points minus six. These are

52:35 Speaker 2: not good stats, No, they're not. These are not good stats. No.

52:39 Speaker 2: And I want to say, I mean, you're not taking

52:42 Speaker 2: care of the puck when you have it correct. And

52:47 Speaker 2: watching yesterday's game once it was lost in in overtime

52:54 Speaker 2: and the TV had panned over to David Pasternak, I mean,

52:59 Speaker 2: I know he's a pretty well well behaved person in public,

53:07 Speaker 2: you're polished mostly and whatever, but not gonna lie. I

53:12 Speaker 2: wanted to see him angrier. I want him to be

53:15 Speaker 2: mad about losing, and in this case, because of the

53:26 Speaker 2: time of year, the situation, like the specific game situation,

53:32 Speaker 2: the playoff wild card race situation, and the implications of

53:37 Speaker 2: this particular this losing to this particular team, and right

53:44 Speaker 2: like I want to see you now get mad.

53:46 Speaker 3: Now, I want to see you get mad, right, I

53:48 Speaker 3: want to see you guys get pissed now And maybe

53:51 Speaker 3: there is that in the locker room.

53:52 Speaker 2: We don't know, n no, But but now it is

53:56 Speaker 2: the time it is okay to express that outwardly because

54:04 Speaker 2: you don't want it to come out when it's too late.

54:09 Speaker 2: You don't want that loss last night, that loss last night,

54:14 Speaker 2: along with a couple of losses in the early part

54:18 Speaker 2: of October. If this team doesn't make the playoff and

54:23 Speaker 2: maintain its current wildcard spot, that loss along with a

54:28 Speaker 2: couple of losses in October going to be the losses

54:31 Speaker 2: that will hunt them for the rest of the summer. Yes,

54:35 Speaker 2: you can't play like that. And the other issue is

54:39 Speaker 2: you can't play like that on the road. Can't.

54:45 Speaker 3: You can't think that you're going out on the road

54:49 Speaker 3: and you have a lead and that you can start

54:52 Speaker 3: the third period in the manner in which they did

54:55 Speaker 3: basically sleepwalking.

54:57 Speaker 2: Yep, still the freaking NHL folks, I don't care, all right.

55:02 Speaker 2: You shouldn't care that they don't have Sidney Crosby or

55:06 Speaker 2: againy welkin right, everybody still is playing for something, even

55:11 Speaker 2: if it's for cry or to be a spoiler. Gets

55:16 Speaker 2: your head out of your asses, and for your coach

55:19 Speaker 2: to stand up in the post game and say that

55:22 Speaker 2: basically he doesn't have any answers. He doesn't know why,

55:26 Speaker 2: like he has no explanation for this. You know how

55:29 Speaker 2: you're supposed to play at this point in the season.

55:32 Speaker 2: Why are you doing it? And if you're not doing it,

55:35 Speaker 2: why the hell are you still seeing the ice? I agree, yep,

55:40 Speaker 2: I agree. It's I don't know. It's frustrating because they

55:48 Speaker 2: have what it takes to be a good team. I

55:51 Speaker 2: think in the start of the season we had genuine

55:54 Speaker 2: concerns that they did not possess the talent required to

55:58 Speaker 2: make the playoffs. And I think that they've proven us

56:02 Speaker 2: all wrong, especially in the month of January. They really

56:05 Speaker 2: proved us all wrong that they do have what it

56:07 Speaker 2: takes and for them to now all of a sudden

56:10 Speaker 2: not be able to execute on it. Yeah, yes, every time.

56:16 Speaker 2: Part to me is if you're able to maintain your

56:20 Speaker 2: defensive structure for the most part at home, right, Because

56:24 Speaker 2: the record at home, according to I looked this up

56:27 Speaker 2: today on stat mus Okay, yep, the record at home

56:32 Speaker 2: for the Bruins twenty four eight and one on the

56:37 Speaker 2: road eleven fourteen and five.

56:40 Speaker 3: Yeah, that loss last night in Pittsburgh. Is there either

56:44 Speaker 3: sixth or seventh loss in a row on the road. Now,

56:48 Speaker 3: I understand you don't have the benefit of the last

56:52 Speaker 3: change on the road, but.

56:53 Speaker 2: It's got to come down to that. But is it

56:56 Speaker 2: that dramatic that you still can't maintain your defensive structure?

57:00 Speaker 1: Make sure?

57:00 Speaker 3: Why are you able to do it for the most

57:02 Speaker 3: part at home and you're not doing it consistently on

57:06 Speaker 3: the road. That doesn't give me a warm and fuzzy

57:09 Speaker 3: feeling about the ability for the Bruins to have any

57:13 Speaker 3: success in the playoffs when they're on the road, because

57:17 Speaker 3: you're likely not going to have well misadvantage if you're

57:20 Speaker 3: going in as a wild card.

57:21 Speaker 2: Deep exactly exactly, They're basically not going there there. I

57:28 Speaker 2: would almost go out to say they're not going to

57:31 Speaker 2: have a home iice advantage at all at all. A

57:38 Speaker 2: lot of other teams would have to really all of

57:40 Speaker 2: a sudden just collapse and I don't see that happening

57:44 Speaker 2: any well.

57:45 Speaker 3: And now, to me, this is when Marco Sturm will

57:50 Speaker 3: earn his money because what I saw in the game

57:54 Speaker 3: last night virtual any gel professional athlete standing still watching

58:04 Speaker 3: the Penguins skating in virtually untouched untouched where you're leaving

58:13 Speaker 3: your goaltender and whatever one defenseman was who decided to

58:17 Speaker 3: play defense high and drive. Okay, that simply can't happen.

58:22 Speaker 3: It can't happen anytime, but it certainly can't happen at

58:27 Speaker 3: a time of the year where every freaking point hounds.

58:32 Speaker 2: Yep, Boston. Boston's remaining strength of schedule is still quite high.

58:38 Speaker 2: They still have an uphill battle and like, there's nothing

58:43 Speaker 2: that you can do about that, right, that's the schedule.

58:46 Speaker 3: Because they've got a lot. The more games to finish

58:51 Speaker 3: the season are on the road than it is at home.

58:56 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yes, So who's in the penalty box then, Maria,

59:07 Speaker 2: I've put in the big boys in the penalty box.

59:10 Speaker 3: I'm putting the big boys that I referenced previously. Okay,

59:14 Speaker 3: put your money where your mouth is. You guys need

59:18 Speaker 3: to start contributing in one way, shape or who.

59:23 Speaker 2: You just have to.

59:24 Speaker 3: There's no if ANSO buts about it, Okay. And I'm

59:27 Speaker 3: speaking of eliaslin Holm, David Pasterna, Borgan Geeki, and I'm

59:33 Speaker 3: gonna throw Nikita Zadora in there. Because I don't know

59:37 Speaker 3: what he's been doing, of Lake, but to me, he

59:40 Speaker 3: has not been noticeable since coming out of the Olympic break,

59:45 Speaker 3: and I gave him credit for being one of the ruins,

59:48 Speaker 3: if not the best defenseman in the early part of

59:51 Speaker 3: the season to now, like, dude.

59:52 Speaker 2: Where are you? Yeah, you're needed now. Yeah, he's been

59:56 Speaker 2: really quiet since you're needed now the return. Yeah, And

1:00:02 Speaker 2: you know, I know that you were unhappy with Aspero's

1:00:07 Speaker 2: play and and I don't disagree on that on that front,

1:00:11 Speaker 2: So I don't have a problem with him being in

1:00:13 Speaker 2: the box this week. I'm hopeful that that is just

1:00:16 Speaker 2: a blip, because the guy is a plus twenty two,

1:00:20 Speaker 2: So I'm optimistic that that was just uh for him

1:00:26 Speaker 2: at least because he's been When when do we see

1:00:28 Speaker 2: Jordan Harris at some point? When do we see Jordan Harris?

1:00:33 Speaker 2: So I don't know, it's a good question up with that. Shockingly, Shockingly,

1:00:37 Speaker 2: Mason Lori UH is also unnoticeable, which, on the one hand,

1:00:46 Speaker 2: is I guess good because of how badly he was

1:00:49 Speaker 2: messing up in the start of the year. However, this

1:00:52 Speaker 2: is a three million dollar defenseman that is ten which

1:00:57 Speaker 2: is fine, and it's no seat. And it's no secret

1:01:01 Speaker 2: that the Bruins, and this has been an issue for

1:01:05 Speaker 2: the last couple three seasons, the Bruins struggle with any

1:01:09 Speaker 2: teams that have more speed than naked. It's just it's

1:01:13 Speaker 2: been maddening. So you know that, And I think that

1:01:17 Speaker 2: has a lot to do with a lot of the

1:01:18 Speaker 2: stupid penalties that we see them take. They're caught footed,

1:01:21 Speaker 2: they're caught out of position. But again, like that gets

1:01:25 Speaker 2: ramped up at playoff time. If you can't handle it, now,

1:01:29 Speaker 2: what are you going to do come playoffs? Yeah? Yeah,

1:01:32 Speaker 2: I am in agreement on that regard. But on the

1:01:37 Speaker 2: flip side, flip side, Bruin's top line, second line stick

1:01:44 Speaker 2: taps because well done. Pavel Zaka's second career hat trick.

1:01:50 Speaker 2: Uh went from there's no hat tricks to too this season?

1:01:54 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, so we left.

1:01:56 Speaker 3: See, I think he's been rejuvenated by the fact that

1:02:00 Speaker 3: he didn't get moved, right.

1:02:03 Speaker 2: Yeah.

1:02:03 Speaker 3: But here's what I'm going to say about that, because

1:02:05 Speaker 3: I listened to the guys on Morning Brew this morning

1:02:09 Speaker 3: who recorded their pod after the loss to the Penguins,

1:02:15 Speaker 3: and their speculation is that will there be some line

1:02:21 Speaker 3: movement to get other guys going I e. Will portions

1:02:27 Speaker 3: of Zaka Arbitson Little Staff be broken up in order

1:02:30 Speaker 3: to give to jumpstart Fasta and Elias Lindholme. You know

1:02:37 Speaker 3: this has happened before where Elias Lindholme gets dropped down

1:02:42 Speaker 3: a line or two. So but again, you've got a

1:02:45 Speaker 3: line going right now, your risk right because points are

1:02:49 Speaker 3: at a premium. Do your risk doing that for the

1:02:52 Speaker 3: sake of why can't these guys get themselves going right?

1:02:57 Speaker 2: I don't know, but I do love the fact that

1:03:00 Speaker 2: Casey Middlestat is also having a bit of a rejuvenated

1:03:05 Speaker 2: season with these guys as well, because a lot of

1:03:07 Speaker 2: people were really against that trade last year and even

1:03:12 Speaker 2: at the start of the year saying like this is

1:03:15 Speaker 2: an awful decision. And I think it's been great. I

1:03:19 Speaker 2: think he's been great on that line, and he's been

1:03:21 Speaker 2: really contributing. He is, you know, plus plus six, so

1:03:28 Speaker 2: that's not bad, not bad. And I got to give

1:03:31 Speaker 2: Don Sweeney a little bit of a stick tap for

1:03:35 Speaker 2: standing pat and not getting fleeced it's a trade deadline

1:03:39 Speaker 2: and sticking to his guns because I think a lot

1:03:42 Speaker 2: of what gms were asking were ridiculously high. Prisis to ask.

1:03:48 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I'm kind with getting rid of you know,

1:03:51 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm fine with some of the prospects down

1:03:53 Speaker 3: in Providence. And you know, maybe other teams don't value

1:03:58 Speaker 3: that Quatra, maybe revalue Matt Patch your too much out

1:04:00 Speaker 3: of whatever it was. But if you're asking for James Higgins,

1:04:04 Speaker 3: get out of here with that. Okay, go away, go away,

1:04:08 Speaker 3: go away. Yeah he can have a little.

1:04:13 Speaker 2: Golf club for me. Yeah, a little golf way. Good

1:04:16 Speaker 2: job not screwing it up. Yeah yeah, yeah. Yeah. So

1:04:19 Speaker 2: we have three games to look forward games this week Kings, Sharks, uh,

1:04:27 Speaker 2: and then the Caps. I'm just worried about.

1:04:31 Speaker 3: I don't I don't mean to look look ahead. It's

1:04:34 Speaker 3: but the Sharks coming in with Celebrini scares the crap

1:04:39 Speaker 3: out of me.

1:04:40 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, these are point to watch. These are points.

1:04:45 Speaker 2: They got to get points. They just need points. I mean,

1:04:48 Speaker 2: for as much as we were irritated at them squandering

1:04:54 Speaker 2: two points, I mean they really only they still got

1:04:58 Speaker 2: to walk away with one point in a week where

1:05:02 Speaker 2: they could have earned twelve points, they walked away with seven.

1:05:07 Speaker 2: I mean, okay, it's better than less than seven. I'm

1:05:14 Speaker 2: trying to be I don't I don't know, I don't know,

1:05:16 Speaker 2: I don't have right, it's not it doesn't make you

1:05:21 Speaker 2: feel no, warm and fuzzy, yeah right, yeah, la Kings.

1:05:27 Speaker 2: I mean, I know they've had issues of their own,

1:05:30 Speaker 2: but you know, they're they're on the struggle bus as well.

1:05:35 Speaker 2: They they haven't won a game yet in March, and

1:05:41 Speaker 2: it looks like they're doing you know, kind of their they're.

1:05:45 Speaker 3: Coming out to the East Coast now, but they have lost.

1:05:50 Speaker 3: I believe they've lost their last three games at home

1:05:54 Speaker 3: all to well. They lost to the Avalanche, they lost

1:05:57 Speaker 3: to the Islanders, and they lost to the Halves. And

1:06:03 Speaker 3: I'm not sure that the paneraan experiment is working out

1:06:06 Speaker 3: great there right now. But yeah, well hopefully not really

1:06:16 Speaker 3: a problem for Boston.

1:06:18 Speaker 2: We shall see.

1:06:19 Speaker 3: But if they if they don't get back to playing

1:06:22 Speaker 3: a solid sixty minutes they're doing, yes they do.

1:06:26 Speaker 2: They need to have a full and they have to

1:06:29 Speaker 2: have one on the road, like they need to. They

1:06:32 Speaker 2: need to get this done on the road, get that

1:06:34 Speaker 2: monkey off their back. It has to happen.

1:06:37 Speaker 3: Well, they'll be back facing the Washington Capitals on Saturday

1:06:42 Speaker 3: in DC, that'll be a nationally televised.

1:06:46 Speaker 2: Three o'clock game. These afternoon games all stink, but they do.

1:06:50 Speaker 2: You know. I'm busy, Maria, I have a life. I'm

1:06:53 Speaker 2: trying to live. Me too, Me.

1:06:55 Speaker 3: Too, Yeah, me too. I agree with you. With that

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1:07:34 Speaker 3: week that was or the week that will be?

1:07:37 Speaker 2: Just the usual, Go bees, go bees, get those points