Retool or Rebuild? How the Bruins Compare in the East | Bruins News | Ep 132

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0:50 Speaker 3: Welcome in everyone to a special episode of Bruins Tape

0:54 Speaker 3: to Tape. I'm your host this week, Caroline with a K,

0:58 Speaker 3: and we have a special guest. But first I'm going

1:02 Speaker 3: to welcome in my fantastic co host, Maria from Watertown.

1:05 Speaker 1: How's it going, Maria, Oh, it's it's great. It's great.

1:08 Speaker 1: I'm enjoying an opportunity to meet a fellow fan and

1:14 Speaker 1: a fellow hockey connoisseur to fill us in on what's

1:18 Speaker 1: going on with teams not named the Boston Bruins. Yes,

1:22 Speaker 1: so it is the week of trade deadline.

1:25 Speaker 3: We are recording this on February twenty third, But as

1:29 Speaker 3: you are hearing this, I'm sure plenty of things have

1:32 Speaker 3: already started to happen in that world. And the trade

1:35 Speaker 3: deadline is this Friday, and so we thought we'd bring

1:38 Speaker 3: in someone to give us a little sense of what.

1:40 Speaker 1: Else is happening out there in the world.

1:42 Speaker 3: So I want to welcome in our special guest, Allie Shane,

1:48 Speaker 3: author of not Another newsletter on Beehive, where he talks

1:51 Speaker 3: about hockey, baseball, books, poetry, and whatever else he finds interesting.

1:56 Speaker 1: And most importantly, Alli is a fan of Range, not

2:00 Speaker 1: the Ranger, the.

2:01 Speaker 3: Fires and other teams to which we express our condolences.

2:07 Speaker 1: Welcome in Ali, Hello, everyone, welcome. I'm happy to be here. Yeah,

2:12 Speaker 1: I'm a fan of the Flyers and the Canes and

2:15 Speaker 1: also the Habs. Yes, all teams.

2:18 Speaker 3: You don't like, but all teams in the East that

2:23 Speaker 3: represent a threat to Boston's ability to actually make it

2:26 Speaker 3: into the playoffs. Because it is such a tight race,

2:31 Speaker 3: everyone's going to be trying to do every little thing

2:33 Speaker 3: that they possibly can do to get a spot, because

2:38 Speaker 3: a single win could either bump you up three spots

2:43 Speaker 3: or a single loss could get you out of the

2:45 Speaker 3: playoffs at this point, so I think everybody's going to

2:49 Speaker 3: be looking at the trade deadline with great interest. But

2:53 Speaker 3: we at our pod we like to get a sense

2:56 Speaker 3: of what is going on out there and what could

2:59 Speaker 3: possibly be happening.

3:00 Speaker 1: So yeah, one of the little feels for your teams

3:04 Speaker 1: the field.

3:05 Speaker 4: You so for the Flyers. I also made sure to

3:09 Speaker 4: take notes about this. I did a lot of research

3:11 Speaker 4: shout out to the Athletic and also Hockey Reference.

3:14 Speaker 1: To Oh yes, great, great sources.

3:17 Speaker 4: Before I get into the Flyers, I also wanted to

3:20 Speaker 4: say it was really funny seeing the Rangers get annihilated

3:24 Speaker 4: by the Bruins tend to I know this happened a

3:26 Speaker 4: few months ago, but I it was my favorite thing

3:28 Speaker 4: to see is the Rangers just eating Crow is super

3:33 Speaker 4: fun because the thing about the Flyers, We're not the

3:35 Speaker 4: Devils and we're not the Rangers. We are commit one

3:38 Speaker 4: of those teams. And that's good. Yes, So yeah, the

3:43 Speaker 4: Flyers are have sixty one points, so they are twenty

3:48 Speaker 4: five wins, twenty losses. They got five overtime I guess, yeah,

3:53 Speaker 4: overtime losses. They are stix and division and they are

3:57 Speaker 4: also seventh in the wildcard race, so they need eat

4:00 Speaker 4: points to get into the wild card spot that your

4:02 Speaker 4: Bruins currently hold.

4:04 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, that'll be yeah.

4:06 Speaker 3: And by the time this episode airs, the Bruins and

4:09 Speaker 3: the Flyers actually face off in so yeah, like I said,

4:14 Speaker 3: that landscape is ever changing so fast.

4:18 Speaker 1: Oh now, definitely, the BacT Era in the East is

4:23 Speaker 1: very small, and it doesn't seem like any really any

4:26 Speaker 1: team in the East really wants to run away with

4:30 Speaker 1: anything right now. I don't know if you call that

4:32 Speaker 1: parry parody or mediocrity. I don't know which it is

4:35 Speaker 1: yet at this point.

4:37 Speaker 4: The same difference, I would say parody for sure. I

4:40 Speaker 4: think that the I mean we're in the Flyers are

4:42 Speaker 4: in the Metro, and that's a division where I mean

4:45 Speaker 4: the Rangers and the Devils are in there. But also

4:47 Speaker 4: the Canes aren't running away with the Metro. But true,

4:50 Speaker 4: I would say the Atlantic is more of the mosh

4:52 Speaker 4: pit and the Metro is more like we already have

4:55 Speaker 4: a clear front runner, which would be the Canes. They

4:57 Speaker 4: would be the ones it would be winning the Metro.

4:59 Speaker 4: I'm not quite sure about.

5:00 Speaker 1: It, you know what, And take no offense to this.

5:03 Speaker 1: The Carolina Hurricanes are invariably one of the strongest regular

5:09 Speaker 1: season teams and then you get into the playoffs yep,

5:14 Speaker 1: and then shit falls off the rails yep. Yet Rob

5:18 Speaker 1: the Bod keeps his job. Well, I mean to say,

5:24 Speaker 1: the things Maria.

5:25 Speaker 4: Before Rod Brittnemore was in was the hide coach. They

5:30 Speaker 4: had a whole decade where they weren't in the playoffs.

5:32 Speaker 4: So then perennially making the playoffs and having a chance,

5:35 Speaker 4: I think is better than not having the playoffs and

5:39 Speaker 4: not doing great.

5:40 Speaker 1: I guess I use the Bruins as our standard when

5:43 Speaker 1: we like dismiss Stanley Cupp winning coaches or you know,

5:48 Speaker 1: coaches who have sustained a success because of you know,

5:52 Speaker 1: your track record in the playoffs. Right, what the needs

5:56 Speaker 1: to the conference game? Maybe an more? I don't know,

6:00 Speaker 1: well what more?

6:01 Speaker 3: Yeah, So give us some insight. So obviously, as Bruins fans,

6:07 Speaker 3: we're very familiar with the product that is being put

6:09 Speaker 3: out right now by the Mondreal Canadians. Yes, good, great,

6:14 Speaker 3: love that for the rivalry whatever. Uh, But with the Flyers,

6:20 Speaker 3: so they walk us through basically like the last year

6:26 Speaker 3: or so, since the departure of Tortorella, because I will

6:31 Speaker 3: admit the only reason why I was paying attention to

6:34 Speaker 3: anything Flyers during that time was because of Tortorella, because

6:37 Speaker 3: I find him highly amusing, and since his departure, I

6:44 Speaker 3: have no idea what's happening down there.

6:46 Speaker 1: Plus the fact that the.

6:48 Speaker 3: Ranger's implosion has basically taken up all of the oxygen

6:53 Speaker 3: in terms of talking about who's having the worst rebound

6:56 Speaker 3: rebuild seasons.

6:57 Speaker 1: So, okay, what's happening down there? Right, You've got a

7:00 Speaker 1: new front office. So it started with bringing in Danny

7:03 Speaker 1: Briere yes and Pierre Keith Jokes, Keith Joey right to

7:12 Speaker 1: try and change the trajectory of what was happening in Philadelphia.

7:19 Speaker 4: Yeah, the last two gms also were not great. I

7:23 Speaker 4: was looking actually at contracts and the Sean Gatorier eighty

7:27 Speaker 4: eight year extension was done by Chuck Fletcher, so he's

7:31 Speaker 4: he's he's mung Us with an albatross contract. But in

7:34 Speaker 4: all honesty, I think Brier did it. Has done a

7:36 Speaker 4: pretty good job, I mean of getting rid of some

7:38 Speaker 4: of those bad contracts.

7:39 Speaker 1: The Ryan Ellis one is an example.

7:41 Speaker 4: I believe I cannot remember his first name, but Johansson

7:44 Speaker 4: of winning that arbitration. He was another contract that Chuck

7:48 Speaker 4: Fletcher liked or a player that you liked, and sort

7:52 Speaker 4: of bringing in the young guys and bringing in the prospect.

7:55 Speaker 1: Pool, which I'm surprised to see that it's eighteenth.

7:57 Speaker 4: But then again, you had Bobby Brink go up to

7:59 Speaker 4: the big club, Matt Thevenee Chops come up to the

8:02 Speaker 4: big club. Those are some big prospects. But we still

8:04 Speaker 4: have some good ones. I would say in the ahl

8:06 Speaker 4: of you know, we got Barkie.

8:08 Speaker 1: We have Bonk, we have Bump.

8:11 Speaker 4: We want all three of them to be on the

8:13 Speaker 4: same line Brink, Blank, Bump whatever they need to be

8:17 Speaker 4: on the same line at some point in time.

8:19 Speaker 1: It would be so funny. But we have some good prospects.

8:23 Speaker 4: And there's also jet La Chenko, who I believe was

8:25 Speaker 4: a rear draft pick.

8:28 Speaker 1: He's been doing okay, he got World Junior's time.

8:31 Speaker 4: He's also playing that HL. He's had some time with us,

8:34 Speaker 4: but it's just, you know, he needs more development time.

8:36 Speaker 4: We need we need centers. The big need for us

8:39 Speaker 4: right now are centers, and we don't.

8:41 Speaker 1: Really have those. Yeah, yeah, we're familiar in that position

8:45 Speaker 1: for a while. We still don't have our David, David

8:49 Speaker 1: Crazy or Patrice bergeron replacement, not that can ever be replaced,

8:53 Speaker 1: but yeah.

8:54 Speaker 4: None of none of them can. They could just play

8:55 Speaker 4: with just a whole just for just for come back. Yeah,

9:01 Speaker 4: but yeah, we don't we have centers, We've Bergland, Lichenko, Martone.

9:08 Speaker 1: They are young and they need development time. Was he

9:13 Speaker 1: the one that was He was drafted just this last year, right, correct?

9:17 Speaker 4: He actually fell to I believe it was seventh, And

9:19 Speaker 4: it was surprising that you fell that to us, because honestly,

9:23 Speaker 4: we had no idea.

9:24 Speaker 1: But he's been doing really well.

9:26 Speaker 4: He has forty nine points, twenty goals, twenty assess.

9:31 Speaker 1: He also just had a hat trip to He's been

9:33 Speaker 1: doing really well, so I'm excited to see him come up.

9:38 Speaker 1: So that's been really fun. I have no one talking

9:41 Speaker 1: about him like I have. I think all the.

9:44 Speaker 3: Attention has been going to McKenna. No, well, what's his

9:48 Speaker 3: name out on Long Island?

9:51 Speaker 1: Oh Schaeffer. Yes, yes, a lot has been going towards him.

9:54 Speaker 4: But I think it's because number one bar or sorry,

9:57 Speaker 4: Martone's at Michigan State. It's getting better still, okay, I

10:03 Speaker 4: think yeah, Actually in Philadelphi, Okay, it's okay. It's understandable.

10:08 Speaker 4: They all kind of they all feel like they melt

10:10 Speaker 4: into like one particular player. I feel it's really it's

10:13 Speaker 4: really hard to pick them all together. But we do

10:16 Speaker 4: have one person who came up Denver Barkie. He's done

10:19 Speaker 4: pretty well since this call up with nine points. He

10:23 Speaker 4: had some really really great offensive zone chances, so that

10:29 Speaker 4: prospect pool looks okay. But with regard to Tortorella, basically

10:34 Speaker 4: after he got fired, we had Bradshaw as our interim

10:37 Speaker 4: coach for the last half of the season. We did

10:39 Speaker 4: pretty well. Though everyone wanted to tank. We were able

10:43 Speaker 4: to get a mid round draft pick. Well, actually were

10:45 Speaker 4: able to get two picks in the first dround was traded.

10:48 Speaker 4: But we you know, we did okay. We finished the

10:51 Speaker 4: season off well. Bradshaw then ended up going to the

10:54 Speaker 4: New Jersey Devils, which is unfortunate because he was not

10:57 Speaker 4: picked for a coaching position. Ricket came in with his staff,

11:02 Speaker 4: including his power play coach, which we really needed a

11:05 Speaker 4: power play coach because our power play has been bad,

11:08 Speaker 4: like next to last place in the last few years.

11:12 Speaker 1: That's like too yeah, well your parently seems okay this year.

11:17 Speaker 1: Fin No, no, it's much better this year thanks to

11:22 Speaker 1: Steve uh oh, god help me with the power play

11:26 Speaker 1: coaches named now for the Bruins. But it has been

11:35 Speaker 1: the bane of our existence. Okay, it's in the past.

11:38 Speaker 1: It has been the bane of our existence. Yes, okay, but.

11:44 Speaker 4: Then we have a lot in common then, because the

11:45 Speaker 4: power play is the bane of our existence too.

11:48 Speaker 1: I feel like there's we should.

11:49 Speaker 4: Have funds some commonalities of the power place the bane

11:51 Speaker 4: of our existence as well.

11:52 Speaker 1: We don't like it. And it's twenty eighth this year,

11:55 Speaker 1: which is an improvement. Hey, we know we have our

11:58 Speaker 1: group has improved, moved significantly as a result of bringing

12:04 Speaker 1: in a new coach and you know, maybe putting people

12:08 Speaker 1: in better positions on the two units. Whatever the case

12:13 Speaker 1: may be, is it's clicking at a much more amenable

12:17 Speaker 1: pace than it has been in the past.

12:20 Speaker 4: Yeah, y'all, y'all got I mean, y'all have pasta you

12:23 Speaker 4: should I mean, I would assume that Jabile has to

12:26 Speaker 4: be better, but.

12:27 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's always been excellent.

12:29 Speaker 3: However, the sheer number of penalties he does not obviously

12:34 Speaker 3: play on the penalty kill, and so when Boston is

12:37 Speaker 3: on p K for you know, almost.

12:41 Speaker 1: The entire game, then the man can't just play anything.

12:45 Speaker 1: He's not known for his defensive prowess. He's getting better,

12:49 Speaker 1: he's getting better, he's getting better, but not someone you

12:53 Speaker 1: want out there on that specialty teams unit. Yeah, I

13:00 Speaker 1: would imagine. I mean, I'm even worrying when he's out

13:02 Speaker 1: there three on three, to be honest with you, sometimes so.

13:05 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, a little mistake there can can have a

13:08 Speaker 3: pretty big impact. So the one player, well, actually have

13:12 Speaker 3: two players that I want to ask about one. Whatever

13:17 Speaker 3: happened with that gigantic Russian goaltender that they like spirited

13:23 Speaker 3: away in the night?

13:25 Speaker 1: DOTB yes, TB yes, And we traded him to Columbus.

13:31 Speaker 3: Okay, I always wondered what happened.

13:35 Speaker 1: I want to hear what to give me the dates

13:39 Speaker 1: on this story.

13:39 Speaker 4: Okay, so they traded him to Columbus. We got some

13:43 Speaker 4: some fifth round picks and stuff. The reason why is

13:47 Speaker 4: Fidotov was sort of a backlog for goaltending on Philadelphia's

13:51 Speaker 4: end because we had Sam Erison, who the front office

13:54 Speaker 4: just cannot quit. He has an eight fifty six save percentage,

13:59 Speaker 4: which is not great. He has it's mid eight hundred

14:03 Speaker 4: safe percentage.

14:04 Speaker 1: Not good.

14:06 Speaker 4: It's just it's just really goaltending has been a really

14:09 Speaker 4: big issue for us the past few years. I think

14:12 Speaker 4: part of the reason was Carter Hart leaving in the

14:15 Speaker 4: middle of the season be to face sexual assault charges.

14:17 Speaker 4: Because then Arison had to be put into a much

14:19 Speaker 4: bigger role. He's more comfertabs being a backup.

14:22 Speaker 1: I think that's part of the problem. Also.

14:25 Speaker 4: The other part has been I just we're all mad

14:28 Speaker 4: at the goaltending coach because this has been the same

14:30 Speaker 4: thing for while.

14:31 Speaker 1: At this point, no, no, can I tell you that

14:34 Speaker 1: your goaltending issues with respect to the Flyers, I want

14:38 Speaker 1: to say goes goose back as far as the two

14:45 Speaker 1: thousand and nine twenty ten eraror where it seemed to

14:50 Speaker 1: me an invariable evolving door goaltending issues and goaltenders that

14:58 Speaker 1: the Flyers either weren't picking the right guys, they couldn't

15:03 Speaker 1: commit to a guy to be their guy. It was

15:05 Speaker 1: like a freaking evolving door for years and years and years.

15:10 Speaker 1: And now I'm looking at you know, the goalies that

15:13 Speaker 1: you have on your roster right now, and their goals

15:16 Speaker 1: against in the same percentages, and I'm like, well, this

15:19 Speaker 1: is the same old, same old shit with the Philadelphia Flyers. Yeah,

15:23 Speaker 1: they need to commit to a freaking goaltending or invest

15:28 Speaker 1: in goaltending. Oh for sure. Yeah.

15:30 Speaker 4: We have fulldor though that we got last over the offseason,

15:33 Speaker 4: and he's actually been the first goaltender in about eleventy

15:37 Speaker 4: million years to have a nine hundred say percentage. And

15:39 Speaker 4: I know he's okay, but after that he does a port.

15:43 Speaker 4: Ye yes we are report is one way of putting it. Yeah,

15:47 Speaker 4: we do have some goaltending in the HL. We had

15:49 Speaker 4: the artisan, he had some practices with the team. He's

15:52 Speaker 4: an eight eighty nine eight percentage, but it's not it's

15:55 Speaker 4: not eight fifty six. And honestly, I feel like if

16:00 Speaker 4: you keep giving him Arison starts, it feels like I'm

16:04 Speaker 4: just gonna punch on the season. I just I don't.

16:07 Speaker 4: I mean, Arison could get better. He's just so frustratingly inconsistent.

16:12 Speaker 4: There are times where he's great and there's times where

16:13 Speaker 4: he's a sieve, and he's been a sieve more often

16:16 Speaker 4: than he's been consistent, and honestly, he just just I know,

16:23 Speaker 4: he is the same number as Brian Bouche. I know,

16:25 Speaker 4: I understand, I.

16:27 Speaker 1: Got you guys haven't had like a good goaltender when

16:33 Speaker 1: a true like number one. He's our guy since Dan Bouche.

16:39 Speaker 1: It's crazy and every year you're like you say to yourself,

16:43 Speaker 1: Christ if the Flyers only had a goaltender. If the

16:47 Speaker 1: Flyers only had a goaltender, Yeah, yeah, Bush was a

16:53 Speaker 1: good one. I mean, my my dad had said since

16:55 Speaker 1: Ron Hackstaal too, that's been the yea you know there,

16:59 Speaker 1: there's definitely that, But also I feel the Flyers play

17:03 Speaker 1: way better in front of Vlodar than they do with Airs.

17:07 Speaker 1: Might be they just kind of given up.

17:08 Speaker 4: On him, but it's also the fact that the Flyers,

17:11 Speaker 4: I mean, they also block a lot of shots. They

17:13 Speaker 4: don't block as much as they used to when they

17:16 Speaker 4: were being coached by Tortorella, and I think part of

17:18 Speaker 4: it is because tacket system is try to make sure

17:21 Speaker 4: the goaltender sees the shots, because the goaltender can't see

17:24 Speaker 4: the shots that they can't save, so that's.

17:28 Speaker 1: Part of it.

17:28 Speaker 4: I think that's been a bit better, so they don't

17:31 Speaker 4: really block the shots as much as they used to.

17:33 Speaker 4: But it's also because they've tried to defend better than

17:35 Speaker 4: they used to, which has helped somewhat.

17:37 Speaker 1: Yeah, which is always interesting. I forget that Dan.

17:40 Speaker 3: Bladar is there now doing that work because again Boston

17:45 Speaker 3: Bruins legend Dan Bladar, he started out in Boston as

17:50 Speaker 3: a backup, and I don't know if it was his

17:53 Speaker 3: youth at the time, he wasn't particularly spectacular. Yeah, Boston,

18:03 Speaker 3: And again, you know, we talked a lot about on

18:05 Speaker 3: our podcast how being on a team is not different

18:13 Speaker 3: really than being going to work in an office, right,

18:15 Speaker 3: And you can work at a place and it's a

18:18 Speaker 3: fine job, but then you go someplace else and the

18:20 Speaker 3: environment is different, the mix of people is different, all

18:23 Speaker 3: of a sudden, the way you do your work is

18:26 Speaker 3: very different. And you know, a player can be terrible

18:31 Speaker 3: on one team, get traded or signed someplace else, and

18:34 Speaker 3: all of a sudden he's lights out, you know. Yeah,

18:37 Speaker 3: and so who knows because he's bounced around a little bit.

18:43 Speaker 1: Yes, he's with Calgary.

18:45 Speaker 4: I feel that was I think the best for him

18:47 Speaker 4: because he was with Dustin Wolf, who's one of the

18:49 Speaker 4: best young goaltenders. So I think that has helped him

18:52 Speaker 4: as well of being that mentor. And now he's in

18:55 Speaker 4: Philadelphia and he's actually doing really well. And sometimes the

18:58 Speaker 4: reason we even stay in games. If I'm gonna be honest,

19:01 Speaker 4: there's maybe a few shots where he saves it. I'm thinking, oh,

19:03 Speaker 4: Ayerson would have let that one in.

19:05 Speaker 3: So is he is he considered the starter. Do you

19:09 Speaker 3: have a true starter? Are they splitting? What's that situation?

19:14 Speaker 4: They are splitting, and I don't want them to split anymore.

19:18 Speaker 4: Just start fladar for as many I know we have

19:20 Speaker 4: a lot of back to backs coming.

19:21 Speaker 1: Up, but just start Flodar.

19:24 Speaker 4: Just Ayerson is not good. He needs to be DFA.

19:30 Speaker 4: I mean, y s Ehl is like right there, he could.

19:32 Speaker 4: I mean there's other Leason probably want him, given how

19:34 Speaker 4: well he seems to perform an international competition for US,

19:39 Speaker 4: but I think that just just trade him DFA him.

19:42 Speaker 4: I don't, I honestly don't care. I feel like you

19:45 Speaker 4: maybe give the artist in a chance, maybe get Pulsava chance.

19:49 Speaker 1: Maybe. I don't know. Just no, no, I don't want

19:54 Speaker 1: to see Ayerson anymore. I really don't. I'm just tired

19:58 Speaker 1: of him. I'm so sorry.

19:59 Speaker 4: I hope he I hope he's a nice person, but

20:02 Speaker 4: as a goalie, he's not been great for us.

20:04 Speaker 5: It's not a good fit, as they say, right no,

20:07 Speaker 5: But it's it's tough decision for them to make because

20:10 Speaker 5: you know, I'm looking at the Flyers website here and

20:13 Speaker 5: Ladars already play thirty three games.

20:16 Speaker 1: Yeah, and so you know I don't know what the

20:19 Speaker 1: analytics say now, but it seems like, you know, they

20:22 Speaker 1: don't want start starting goalies. Right The average that they

20:27 Speaker 1: want him to play is like, what fifty to fifty

20:30 Speaker 1: five games? Even fifty five might be pushing it. So

20:33 Speaker 1: he's he's on a crazy pace here, oh for sure.

20:36 Speaker 1: And then the thing is is will he continue that

20:39 Speaker 1: pace next year?

20:40 Speaker 4: But I mean I think that he will knock on

20:43 Speaker 4: what I think he'll do well. I just think that

20:45 Speaker 4: after this year, they're going to have to really think

20:47 Speaker 4: about Arison. I mean, he's also an unrestricted free agent

20:51 Speaker 4: after this year or so. I think that happened is

20:55 Speaker 4: you know, I mean, maybe trade him to the Senators.

20:57 Speaker 4: Please just just just trade them elsewhere, just maybe to

21:01 Speaker 4: a goaltending team that's not doing too great.

21:03 Speaker 1: Okay, just just please for our second. But he's really good.

21:07 Speaker 3: Do you think then so if he's you said, he's

21:09 Speaker 3: in his final year right now? Ye, so do you

21:13 Speaker 3: think that he could be uh on the trade block?

21:21 Speaker 3: Because you know, Boston has an interesting situation in that

21:29 Speaker 3: we've got Corpusollo. He's obviously excellent, he's coming to the

21:35 Speaker 3: end of his contract. I think we are under the

21:38 Speaker 3: impression that you know his time in Boston is going

21:42 Speaker 3: to be coming to an end because.

21:44 Speaker 1: It's not our line, if not at during this offseason, right,

21:49 Speaker 1: and you know, you don't want to necessarily like he

21:53 Speaker 1: was he was.

21:53 Speaker 3: This sounds terrible, but he was an investment piece. They

21:57 Speaker 3: brought him in, they did a little flip, they give

22:00 Speaker 3: him a little support. He's become a better goalie and

22:04 Speaker 3: has a lot of much more value now and so

22:07 Speaker 3: obviously he's one that they're not going to just let

22:10 Speaker 3: walk away. So is there any realistic possibility that that

22:18 Speaker 3: that your goalie there would be considered for trade? Like really,

22:23 Speaker 3: I mean there's been whispers.

22:25 Speaker 1: I the one player that has given the biggest, got

22:28 Speaker 1: the biggest trade rumors has been Rasmus Wristol Linen. He

22:31 Speaker 1: is our defenceman. They all always need defenceman, especially those

22:38 Speaker 1: playoff contenders. So I mean he also won a bronze

22:41 Speaker 1: to Yes, So I mean he did well. I feel

22:45 Speaker 1: like it would be like he's been hurt, Yes, Yeah,

22:49 Speaker 1: yes he's been. He's been perennially hurt bad, perennially on

22:52 Speaker 1: the injury list always. But he's played nineteen games this season. Yes,

23:00 Speaker 1: got a triceps injury, and then he got another injury.

23:03 Speaker 1: It's injuries on bodybirds.

23:05 Speaker 4: I've never thought happened before, honestly, but yes, that's the

23:09 Speaker 4: one that they There's been trade rumors about him for

23:12 Speaker 4: a few years. I think that if that happens, it

23:17 Speaker 4: would kind of be like the Scotlanton trade, probably more

23:20 Speaker 4: because defencemen are needed for the playoff contenders or those

23:24 Speaker 4: who aspired to be playoff contenders.

23:25 Speaker 1: So I would assume that we would get.

23:27 Speaker 4: A haul for him more than just a first round

23:31 Speaker 4: pick in Nikita Kervakin, probably even with the injury history,

23:36 Speaker 4: maybe a little bit less, but I mean even then,

23:38 Speaker 4: like you could, I mean, he's still considered a decent defenseman.

23:42 Speaker 1: Yes, his plus, but he's considered decent and he's been

23:45 Speaker 1: decent in our system. So I mean, I think that

23:49 Speaker 1: he gave that chance, you know. So what do you

23:52 Speaker 1: want to see then in this immediate.

23:54 Speaker 3: Future, uh, for the team, whether it's with the upcoming

23:58 Speaker 3: trade deadline or even looking a.

24:02 Speaker 1: Little bit further ahead to.

24:05 Speaker 3: You know, post Stanley Cup trades or free agency, what

24:10 Speaker 3: is what are the Flyers? What are they missing? Because

24:13 Speaker 3: you know you've talked about the goaltending and goalies. It's

24:15 Speaker 3: always kind of hard to trade for or sign goalies

24:19 Speaker 3: because you never know what you're gonna get. But like,

24:20 Speaker 3: outside of goaltending, what do you want to see from

24:24 Speaker 3: the team.

24:25 Speaker 1: I would love to see at least a Hall for

24:28 Speaker 1: rista line and I think that people have been also

24:32 Speaker 1: a bit mad about the Devorac extension. But we need centers.

24:36 Speaker 4: As as we mentioned earlier, we need centers, and especially

24:39 Speaker 4: with the younger players coming up, we need centers. I

24:44 Speaker 4: would also say what we also need to do is

24:47 Speaker 4: sign t or Zigris.

24:49 Speaker 1: He's been one of our best players. He's I believe

24:52 Speaker 1: he is like twenty hold on, I believe he has.

24:55 Speaker 1: He's got twenty goals twenty nine assists. Yeah, I forgot

24:59 Speaker 1: that he is with you guys. Yeah, I know he's

25:02 Speaker 1: showing as a minus seven, but I mean he's points

25:05 Speaker 1: for his his point contribution is significant.

25:09 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, he's been doing really great. So I would

25:12 Speaker 4: say you need to extend him. I think they're probably

25:15 Speaker 4: waiting until the end of the year. They're probably gonna

25:18 Speaker 4: wait and see, you know about the cap, and but

25:20 Speaker 4: he's definitely going to be I would assume getting an extension.

25:23 Speaker 1: I hope he gets an extension of that better half.

25:27 Speaker 1: I mean he's the second leading point getter on your

25:29 Speaker 1: team right now.

25:30 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would assume that Brier, they're not that uh

25:34 Speaker 4: they would they would know, but I think that they're

25:36 Speaker 4: probably waiting and seeing and then you know, then they're

25:38 Speaker 4: going to make that extension. But he's he's an embraced

25:41 Speaker 4: Philadelphia and he seems to be doing better than he

25:43 Speaker 4: has been in Anaheim.

25:44 Speaker 1: So that's good. Yeah, you're responding pretty well to the coach.

25:48 Speaker 4: So yes, ex signing Ziegris, you know, developing the youth

25:53 Speaker 4: Martone Bergland uh Leschenko, other draft picks that we like

25:58 Speaker 4: get in the draft.

26:00 Speaker 1: Have you a good coach too? I mean everyone speaks

26:04 Speaker 1: so highly of Rick chocket I yeah, oh about that?

26:13 Speaker 1: About that? Uh okay, now it's dicourse. Okay, now it's

26:21 Speaker 1: time for me to oh well.

26:22 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yeah, okay, So you mentioned so that was

26:25 Speaker 3: another thing. So I remember from when Tortorella was there

26:32 Speaker 3: and Mietkroff was he came in at about.

26:36 Speaker 1: We argue with Tortorella Armabel, Yes that is him yep,

26:40 Speaker 1: and then he got scratched yep. And then I heard that, Okay, well, okay.

26:45 Speaker 3: My initial take was, okay, maybe it's just, you know,

26:48 Speaker 3: a coach and a player they don't always you know,

26:50 Speaker 3: mix whatever personalities. But then all I heard was that

26:54 Speaker 3: it kind of happened again with another coach, and now

26:58 Speaker 3: it makes me wonder what's up with Mitchkoff.

27:01 Speaker 1: So enlighten us, I will, dude, I will, I will

27:05 Speaker 1: give you the disc So basically what happened was, Mitchkov

27:08 Speaker 1: also is one of our best players. He led the

27:11 Speaker 1: rookies and points last year. Yeah. Good, he's our few,

27:16 Speaker 1: he's our future right there.

27:17 Speaker 4: So basically what happened was Tackett first said on Spit

27:20 Speaker 4: and Chicklets that Mietkov showed up to training camp fat

27:25 Speaker 4: and that gave him the moniker on some sub on

27:28 Speaker 4: the Flyer subbard in a fat they which okay, that's no,

27:31 Speaker 4: and photoshops of him like looking extremely like okay.

27:34 Speaker 1: With those with those talkets. Exact words or did he

27:37 Speaker 1: say out of shape?

27:39 Speaker 6: I believe he said out of shape, That's what I said,

27:42 Speaker 6: which is I think, okay to me, this is a

27:44 Speaker 6: big difference. Not to put words in anyone's mouth, but

27:47 Speaker 6: it's a big difference to say, when a player shows

27:50 Speaker 6: up out of shape and when a player shows up

27:52 Speaker 6: as fat. Now right, it's a player's responsibility in my view,

27:58 Speaker 6: to show up in some kind.

28:00 Speaker 1: Of good condition to start your season. Yeah, okay, sorry, Yeah,

28:05 Speaker 1: that's okay. I was. I was, I like we're talking.

28:08 Speaker 1: I like we're talking, but I know nothing about him,

28:11 Speaker 1: so by all means, do tell oh I will. Yeah.

28:13 Speaker 1: So basically it also spin chicklets Biz is like one

28:16 Speaker 1: of his good friends.

28:17 Speaker 4: Yeah.

28:18 Speaker 1: There, there's a camaraderie and a destinate relationship there, and

28:23 Speaker 1: perhaps that was a way of talk it getting a

28:26 Speaker 1: message through not only to this player but other players

28:30 Speaker 1: that are like, I'm mean business. I don't know, but

28:35 Speaker 1: yeah yeah.

28:37 Speaker 4: Also, then Flyers fans were tracking his time on ice,

28:41 Speaker 4: which was dropping to at least ten minutes per game.

28:44 Speaker 4: Talk it then continued. The beach cop showed up out

28:47 Speaker 4: of shape at an interview for a Flyer's charity carnival,

28:50 Speaker 4: which is a big annual event that happened. It was

28:52 Speaker 4: in January, So about.

28:55 Speaker 1: What's talking about it? Talking about it? Yes? Yeah, And

28:59 Speaker 1: then Danny Brier had to have a emergency press conference saying,

29:04 Speaker 1: meach Cob isn't going anywhere. We're like tak It just

29:08 Speaker 1: bespoke all of that.

29:10 Speaker 4: So then I've been seeing about similarities with Tacket and

29:14 Speaker 4: Vancouver with Les Petterson the forward not the defenseman, with

29:20 Speaker 4: issues with him of trying to have him play the

29:22 Speaker 4: right way because of Tacket's defensive system. Michov also isn't

29:25 Speaker 4: playing well defensively, but I think also part of the

29:31 Speaker 4: reason for his time on ice. There was a good

29:32 Speaker 4: breakdown by Steve Peters. He's a video coach, but basically

29:37 Speaker 4: he has the fewest defensive zone shifts. And also the

29:39 Speaker 4: Flyers love spending quality defensive zone time.

29:43 Speaker 1: They love spending time in their own zone. They love it. It's

29:46 Speaker 1: not their favorite thing. So it's basically an Ora Boros

29:51 Speaker 1: of meach Coob isn't getting enough time because the Flyers

29:54 Speaker 1: are spending quality time in their own zone. He's better

29:56 Speaker 1: in the offensive zone.

29:57 Speaker 4: And what he does get that time he earns the

30:00 Speaker 4: puck over, he will sometimes not really go towards the net.

30:06 Speaker 4: This is more of the offensive zone, but also in

30:08 Speaker 4: defensive shifts, he doesn't get to the inside of the players.

30:11 Speaker 1: He doesn't use his speed on wall. A lot of

30:13 Speaker 1: turnovers so yeah, of course Talket doesn't trust.

30:15 Speaker 4: Him on defense, and then this leads to a fewer

30:21 Speaker 4: shifts because he can't be trusted when the Flyers are

30:25 Speaker 4: spending their quality time in their defensive zone. So that

30:28 Speaker 4: is just it's just it's basically just sort of self

30:31 Speaker 4: repeats itself. And I mean sophomore slumps are pretty common.

30:35 Speaker 4: And then also he's been taking a lot more penalties.

30:38 Speaker 4: He's forty nine penalty minutes so far. He had forty

30:41 Speaker 4: six last season.

30:43 Speaker 1: That's not good.

30:45 Speaker 4: So it's just been all of all of those feelings.

30:48 Speaker 4: It's just been about it. But it's been a lot

30:50 Speaker 4: of talk. It's been a lot of Flyers fans are

30:52 Speaker 4: kind of done with talkt It's been year or.

30:54 Speaker 1: One because of this, because of this situation, I believe it. Yeah,

31:00 Speaker 1: I would say this.

31:01 Speaker 4: I would also say, I mean, they've been talking about

31:03 Speaker 4: talk it not playing meatchov as much, but I feel

31:06 Speaker 4: like that's a distraction from the actual thing, which is

31:08 Speaker 4: they should play a meal Andre more. He's one of

31:10 Speaker 4: our young defensemen, and then he loves playing his old

31:14 Speaker 4: Vancouver player Noah Jolson, who is twenty eight Andrea is

31:17 Speaker 4: twenty three. I believe he's turned twenty four this year.

31:20 Speaker 4: I don't, but basically, uh, play him more, Play your

31:25 Speaker 4: young guy more.

31:25 Speaker 1: Please.

31:26 Speaker 4: We are rebuilding, we need more from him. And he's

31:29 Speaker 4: a plus eleven. Andre does, Juleson does have a plus two,

31:33 Speaker 4: and both of them have averaged like a zero or

31:35 Speaker 4: minus one or a zero or a one. But Jolson

31:39 Speaker 4: had a minus two in the Boston game, so that's

31:43 Speaker 4: not good. I feel like, maybe play Andre a little

31:47 Speaker 4: bit more. And he was healthy scratched in some of

31:49 Speaker 4: the games leading get to the break, which pissed fans off.

31:51 Speaker 4: I just feel like you should play your young guys more.

31:55 Speaker 4: I know Noel Jolson was like he was your bestie,

31:58 Speaker 4: your buddy, but like.

32:00 Speaker 1: Speak to this with a great deal of experience with

32:03 Speaker 1: regard to the Bruins, because we have had this bush

32:06 Speaker 1: full for several seasons now where we could see the

32:11 Speaker 1: trajectory of the team, you know, changing, guys are getting older.

32:15 Speaker 1: We had we had a core that you know, couldn't

32:20 Speaker 1: seem to get the job done in the playoffs, which

32:23 Speaker 1: is why the core was basically disbanded. And we had

32:27 Speaker 1: all these young players down in Providence right where you're saying,

32:32 Speaker 1: if this, if this is what is happening. What have

32:35 Speaker 1: you got to lose by playing or giving these young guys?

32:40 Speaker 1: When are you going to give them the opportunity? But

32:44 Speaker 1: it's a very difficult decision to make when you find

32:48 Speaker 1: yourself on this tight rope of we're not terrible, we're

32:53 Speaker 1: not great, we find ourselves somewhere in the middle where

32:57 Speaker 1: we're now we're now fighting our way into playoff potential,

33:02 Speaker 1: right right, and so, and you've got ownership that is

33:07 Speaker 1: basically I feel strongly that there is a mandate from

33:11 Speaker 1: Bruin's ownership about playoffs and getting into the playoffs, regardless

33:20 Speaker 1: of you know how long you're in or how long

33:22 Speaker 1: you're out. Okay, So for general managers, it's a very

33:27 Speaker 1: difficult balance to strike until you finally publicly come out,

33:32 Speaker 1: as the Bruins had to, and their public coming out

33:36 Speaker 1: party was basically when they traded Charlie Coyle, Brandon, Carlo

33:42 Speaker 1: brad marchand Trent Frederick. Like there was a blood bath

33:47 Speaker 1: of it. Remember it was a blood bath, right it was.

33:52 Speaker 1: We're like, okay, is this is how they're telling us

33:55 Speaker 1: now that we're going into rebuild mode. They can't reach

34:00 Speaker 1: tool right, they call it retool. That's the new house

34:03 Speaker 1: word in the NHL. The Rangers are using that word

34:07 Speaker 1: as well. They rebuild. Rangers are using that word as well.

34:12 Speaker 1: So you know, it's because, right, there are so many

34:17 Speaker 1: implications when you rip the band aid off and said,

34:20 Speaker 1: you know what, we're just going to move forward with

34:22 Speaker 1: the youth movement. Because the youth movement isn't may not

34:25 Speaker 1: win you a lot of games. What happens then fans

34:28 Speaker 1: lose interest, Fans don't come into the building, fans don't

34:32 Speaker 1: spend money, right.

34:34 Speaker 3: I mean, it's a very delicate balance. And I think

34:38 Speaker 3: the thing that Boston has done well in this case

34:43 Speaker 3: because Maria's point last fall, when the writing was on

34:49 Speaker 3: the wall and we knew things were.

34:51 Speaker 1: Going to go south fast.

34:55 Speaker 7: Before Jim Montgomery was let go, we just kept asking

35:01 Speaker 7: why are they continuously just putting the same guys out

35:06 Speaker 7: there over and over and over again expecting a different reasons.

35:08 Speaker 3: Well of guys in Providence, like if we're gonna lose,

35:14 Speaker 3: then just bring these other guys up and see you gonna.

35:18 Speaker 8: Happen to It was so frustrating, So fend what Boston

35:25 Speaker 8: I think did right in that off season head coaching

35:30 Speaker 8: search was hire somebody who had a lot of experience

35:36 Speaker 8: with developing young players.

35:38 Speaker 1: Correct.

35:39 Speaker 3: Yes, you will not be as strong necessarily if you

35:48 Speaker 3: are bringing in a lot of young or inexperienced guys,

35:54 Speaker 3: but you have to put them through their paces so

35:57 Speaker 3: they can learn too, right, you have to be willing

36:01 Speaker 3: to be okay with.

36:02 Speaker 1: Some degree of loss of loss.

36:04 Speaker 3: The long term positive impact is these guys know now

36:08 Speaker 3: how to work together, how to play at the level

36:10 Speaker 3: they need to play at. And we've just been lucky

36:14 Speaker 3: enough that they have not only met expectations, but have

36:18 Speaker 3: exceeded expectations. And I kind of wonder because again I

36:22 Speaker 3: don't know about Takeet's experience or like his approach necessarily

36:29 Speaker 3: as a coach with these young guys, because I think

36:32 Speaker 3: I think just as an outsider observing what you're you know,

36:39 Speaker 3: what you're saying about. Let's say, for example, mitchkov Right,

36:44 Speaker 3: I've seen him play. I was impressed. You also have

36:47 Speaker 3: Zigres who you know, people have their opinions on him

36:51 Speaker 3: as a as a personality, but I think he also

36:53 Speaker 3: has a very good skill set. He's a young guy too,

36:57 Speaker 3: who doesn't have a lot of experience because he came

36:59 Speaker 3: from Anaheim, Like they weren't doing much for a while, right,

37:03 Speaker 3: so how are they going to be supported?

37:09 Speaker 1: You know? Moving forward?

37:10 Speaker 3: Is talk at the guy who can Actually, then I

37:12 Speaker 3: would because I feel that irritation, right, I feel that irritation.

37:16 Speaker 1: Yeah, the guys sitting and wasting away in Providence. It's like,

37:19 Speaker 1: why is this guy not playing? Like why did you

37:21 Speaker 1: draft them? This was they them? If you're not going

37:25 Speaker 1: to like give them the opportunity to earn their spot.

37:29 Speaker 1: If we're building a retooling and you've got assets that

37:34 Speaker 1: you yourselves chose, why aren't we seeing them?

37:38 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I will say talk it as he

37:42 Speaker 4: was with Vancouver and they were also in denial about

37:45 Speaker 4: the rebuild retool type situation.

37:48 Speaker 1: He wasn't fit. Yeah, that was a hot mess. So

37:51 Speaker 1: he I feel like he was also just lucky to

37:53 Speaker 1: have escape to Vancouver. He's like, oh, thank god.

37:56 Speaker 4: And I think that some of the players that have

37:59 Speaker 4: done really well our defenceman, so Jamie Drysdale has done

38:02 Speaker 4: really well.

38:03 Speaker 1: Cam York has done really well for me to success

38:06 Speaker 1: to his cats, which good. Yes, I love that. And

38:11 Speaker 1: so there's been our defensive guys who've been starting to

38:13 Speaker 1: play really well. We have Travis Sandheim, who's a really

38:16 Speaker 1: good defenseman, so I think that you need to have

38:19 Speaker 1: good defense. And I think also the not blocking shots

38:21 Speaker 1: as much has.

38:22 Speaker 4: Been extremely helpful because that means the goalie can hopefully

38:25 Speaker 4: see the shot.

38:26 Speaker 1: Unless you're Sam Marison. I'm sorry, I'm putting it a

38:31 Speaker 1: little too thick on him. I'm so sorry, Sam. No, No,

38:35 Speaker 1: this is fine. You don't have to apologize for that

38:37 Speaker 1: kind of rick. Yeah, I'm the queen of that kind

38:39 Speaker 1: of rhetoric.

38:40 Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, can I say and remember Flyers legend.

38:49 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah. But I think that our defensemen have been

38:54 Speaker 1: doing really well. Secrets has been doing really well, konnect

38:57 Speaker 1: and he has also been doing well. There's been some

38:58 Speaker 1: buy in from them as well. I think that that's good.

39:02 Speaker 4: I'm not sure he's gonna be there all five years,

39:05 Speaker 4: probably two years, maybe three if we're really thinking about it,

39:10 Speaker 4: but he'll be there.

39:12 Speaker 1: He's helping with the building stage at least. I mean.

39:14 Speaker 4: I think the thing is with you know, the Bruins

39:17 Speaker 4: and what you've been saying about the Rangers and what

39:18 Speaker 4: you've been.

39:19 Speaker 1: Saying is at least we admitted there was going to

39:22 Speaker 1: be a rebuild. At least we admitted it. Said again,

39:25 Speaker 1: we had a decade of Chuck Fletcher and then before

39:28 Speaker 1: him Ron Hextall as a gm ye who then did

39:32 Speaker 1: the same thing.

39:33 Speaker 4: To Pittsburgh, which was honestly kind of funny.

39:36 Speaker 3: Yah.

39:37 Speaker 4: But before I think that we actually admitted there was

39:41 Speaker 4: a rebuild. And we also have Danny Brier, who's had

39:44 Speaker 4: experience with the HL teams, he had a or at

39:47 Speaker 4: least minor league teams. He's had experience with a team

39:50 Speaker 4: up in pain. He's he knows what he's doing GM wise,

39:53 Speaker 4: So I would have to say I have some faith

39:55 Speaker 4: and Brier some faith in Jones. I'm not sure about

39:59 Speaker 4: talk it's going to be there all five years, probably

40:01 Speaker 4: two years, probably three, But I think he's if you

40:05 Speaker 4: want to shore up your defense, he's your guy. The

40:09 Speaker 4: offense has been doing okay, so we always have to

40:11 Speaker 4: count shots and how many shots we do take because

40:15 Speaker 4: also again we love spending quality time in our own zone.

40:18 Speaker 1: We just love doing it. We're like, oh, yay, power friendship,

40:24 Speaker 1: don't worry, We'll be right here. We'll be hanging out

40:26 Speaker 1: with you. It'll be so fun.

40:29 Speaker 3: So it sounds like you would also like to see

40:32 Speaker 3: a little bit more. Uh is it like offensive prowess

40:38 Speaker 3: shooting skills players come in?

40:40 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think those players are also in our system.

40:44 Speaker 4: We have Martne who's in our system. Bergland also did

40:47 Speaker 4: really well at the World Juniors. They all all three

40:50 Speaker 4: of the players I mentioned at Berglan the schank Omer tone,

40:53 Speaker 4: they all went to the World Juniors. They all had

40:55 Speaker 4: good experience. So I think that we have those players

40:58 Speaker 4: that are coming. There's been some good scout outing in

41:00 Speaker 4: our pipeline and stuff like that, so I mean even

41:03 Speaker 4: also was Gullie who's in the KHL by the way,

41:05 Speaker 4: So you have a goalie he'll be, he'll hill.

41:08 Speaker 1: He's coming, I hope.

41:09 Speaker 3: As long as they don't give him away, right, yes,

41:12 Speaker 3: don't give him to Columbus.

41:13 Speaker 4: Can we just not give any good goaltenders to Columbus

41:16 Speaker 4: to stop? But that's that's what I would say, is

41:21 Speaker 4: there's a bright feature. I would just like for us

41:24 Speaker 4: to eliminate the Capitals because of how they did that

41:27 Speaker 4: to us a few years ago. We just eliminate them,

41:29 Speaker 4: I will consider it a success. I think if we

41:32 Speaker 4: play spoiler, that would be great. I think that also

41:35 Speaker 4: us doing okay we're at least that in last place.

41:38 Speaker 1: We got two worst teams below.

41:40 Speaker 4: Us, so we can laugh and point it laugh at them,

41:42 Speaker 4: and honestly, I very understandably so because both of them

41:46 Speaker 4: have been in.

41:47 Speaker 1: A rebuild retool just not really. I mean, I don't

41:51 Speaker 1: think the Flyers were shy about kind of Oh yeah,

41:54 Speaker 1: acknowledging that this is a process by bringing in Keith

41:58 Speaker 1: Jones and Danny Breyer and and you know you that

42:01 Speaker 1: talk it, whether you know the fans of players like

42:04 Speaker 1: him or not, so you know, you've made changes in

42:08 Speaker 1: significant areas of the franchise with the understanding that we

42:13 Speaker 1: need to start trending in a different direction. Oh yeah.

42:18 Speaker 4: We also beat President's probably President's Trophy favorite Colorado. That

42:22 Speaker 4: was a great high point. I also just had the

42:25 Speaker 4: I can't believe we did that either.

42:26 Speaker 1: So I feel like us winning some games against some

42:29 Speaker 1: really good teams. Colorado also Vegas too, we somehow won

42:33 Speaker 1: against them, which is I still can't believe that happened. Yeah,

42:37 Speaker 1: So I think that us winning those good games, that's great.

42:41 Speaker 1: I'm not sure we're gonna be in playoff contention, but

42:44 Speaker 1: anything can happen. We'll see.

42:48 Speaker 4: I mean do you get to play the Rangers? And

42:49 Speaker 4: I just I just want Mikasze Benajat to not score

42:53 Speaker 4: against US. But he's gonna score against us. Can he

42:55 Speaker 4: just get traded out of the out of the conference.

42:57 Speaker 4: Just take him, take him to like San Jose. Just

43:00 Speaker 4: I don't want to see him anymore.

43:03 Speaker 1: Just you got you guys, don't get a lot of uh,

43:07 Speaker 1: a lot of grace coming back from this Olympic break.

43:10 Speaker 1: You're you're, you're Yeah, you're playing the Capitals on Wednesday night. Yep,

43:14 Speaker 1: you have back to back. You get Capitals and the

43:17 Speaker 1: Rangers and then you get to go home and they

43:21 Speaker 1: on Saturday in the national broadcast.

43:24 Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, hopefully no Sean McDonough, No, I just

43:28 Speaker 4: I can't listen. Yeah yeah, I might just listen to

43:34 Speaker 4: Todd fit Organ and Tim Saunders. I might just listen

43:36 Speaker 4: to them. If if it's Sean McDonough, I'm like, Nope,

43:39 Speaker 4: not happening.

43:41 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.

43:42 Speaker 3: And I gotta just say, because our listeners they know

43:46 Speaker 3: how I feel about McDonough.

43:48 Speaker 1: Not only I don't I don't mind him, she can't

43:51 Speaker 1: stand him.

43:51 Speaker 3: I can't mind him. And they tell me, they tell

43:55 Speaker 3: me when he does baseball. He's so much more full

43:57 Speaker 3: of personality because of the Red Side, And I said,

44:02 Speaker 3: why can't he bring some of that personality to these

44:04 Speaker 3: national broadcasts? And the response from people have been, well,

44:07 Speaker 3: because it's national broadcast, you.

44:09 Speaker 1: Know, ESPN them.

44:12 Speaker 9: But but what about Doc Doc Emeric was the standard

44:19 Speaker 9: for enthusiastic, unbiased national broadcaster.

44:25 Speaker 1: Yeah, why then do we have to have.

44:30 Speaker 3: The human version of warm milk and melatonin in shot?

44:37 Speaker 3: And the man repeats himself multiple times in the broadcast,

44:42 Speaker 3: telling the same story five times.

44:44 Speaker 1: It's like either someone is they're watching or they're not.

44:49 Speaker 3: Like, I don't need to hear the same story fifty times,

44:53 Speaker 3: So like you, I will probably then tune in to

44:58 Speaker 3: the Boston's radio broads to listen to them because I can't. Y.

45:06 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're good.

45:08 Speaker 3: Between the conversation between McDonough and Ray, I can't.

45:14 Speaker 1: If he sees one, I would like to just walk

45:16 Speaker 1: up and slap him in the face. I got any

45:23 Speaker 1: I would take Sean McDonough ten times over Ray Ferraro.

45:28 Speaker 1: Two of them together is even worse. I mean, yeah,

45:32 Speaker 1: because I don't listen to anything he has to say. No,

45:36 Speaker 1: I can't, I can't. I can't. It's torture. It is

45:40 Speaker 1: really torturous. There there might.

45:42 Speaker 3: Be one person that ESPN puts out there to do

45:47 Speaker 3: a play by play that I can even stomach remotely. Yeah,

45:54 Speaker 3: I'm like these they stink. They all stink.

45:58 Speaker 1: They Yeah. And also, like speaking on by his commentators,

46:01 Speaker 1: Bob we Using is right there. They don't give him

46:03 Speaker 1: as many games as he should. He should get more games.

46:06 Speaker 1: He's really good. Yeah, I like him, he's good. They

46:10 Speaker 1: should give him more games. But they're gonna give Sean

46:12 Speaker 1: McDonough games because especially happen, especially in the back half

46:17 Speaker 1: BOS season. Yeah. Well, and it's the Boston connection too,

46:20 Speaker 1: so oh yeah, that's super fun.

46:23 Speaker 3: We were legitimately afraid that he was gonna come in,

46:27 Speaker 3: and when you know, our home guy, Jack Edwards retired.

46:31 Speaker 3: I think some of us were genuinely concerned that McDonough

46:35 Speaker 3: could come in, And I was like, I swear to God,

46:37 Speaker 3: if he came in to be the play by but

46:39 Speaker 3: play announcer for Nessen and for all those games broadcast

46:44 Speaker 3: right out of Boss, I don't know what I would do.

46:47 Speaker 1: Yeah, very I can't blame it.

46:54 Speaker 3: So it sounds like while perhaps right now in twenty

46:59 Speaker 3: twenty Sixladelphia Flyers are not necessarily a shoe in uh

47:05 Speaker 3: for for anything. Maybe you know, maybe they'll be in

47:10 Speaker 3: a doodle bug race at the end there. But it

47:12 Speaker 3: sounds like there might still be a couple more years

47:15 Speaker 3: of building. But it sounds like Philadelphia's a team that

47:20 Speaker 3: we should be paying attention to in the next couple

47:23 Speaker 3: of seasons.

47:23 Speaker 4: I would say definitely one hundred percent, because a lot

47:28 Speaker 4: of other teams are I would say, in our division

47:30 Speaker 4: are also frendy. I mean there's I believe Columbus is

47:34 Speaker 4: in our division.

47:35 Speaker 1: Yes, there's a few.

47:37 Speaker 4: I mean, that's the only time I could big of

47:38 Speaker 4: outside of Carolina that is actually doing well. I think

47:41 Speaker 4: we're helped by the fact that two of the other

47:43 Speaker 4: teams are in their downfall, and it's I think that

47:46 Speaker 4: we're doing better in that regard.

47:49 Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens. Well. Anything like bring up

47:53 Speaker 1: the old Philadelphia Bruins rivalry back because those games were, yes,

47:59 Speaker 1: like blood baths. When I tell you blood baths, I

48:03 Speaker 1: mean yes, I did do that. Oh my god, you go, yeah.

48:08 Speaker 1: I was just gonna say some of those games and

48:10 Speaker 1: the you know, the early heyday of the Bruins, Flyers rivalries.

48:16 Speaker 1: It was a sight to behold. Oh I can imagine. Yeah.

48:21 Speaker 1: So uh.

48:23 Speaker 3: We've said it on our podcast a bunch of times.

48:26 Speaker 3: You know, even though we despise some of these other teams,

48:29 Speaker 3: especially from long standing rivalries, granted Philadelphia not as long

48:34 Speaker 3: because they are one of the first expansion teams that

48:37 Speaker 3: rivalry existed in.

48:38 Speaker 1: Anything that a.

48:42 Speaker 3: Rival, a genuine Bruins rival, anything that those teams can

48:46 Speaker 3: do to improve the product that they put out on

48:49 Speaker 3: the ice to improve the rivalry, we want.

48:52 Speaker 1: To see it.

48:52 Speaker 3: So I would love to see Philadelphia really become a

48:58 Speaker 3: much more competitive rival than than they have been in

49:04 Speaker 3: recent years.

49:04 Speaker 1: So it's good for business, it's good.

49:06 Speaker 4: For It'll be so fun when I can win in

49:09 Speaker 4: a few years, I can come in and be and

49:11 Speaker 4: just you know, drash.

49:12 Speaker 1: You guys that you can always hang your hands. The

49:16 Speaker 1: fact that we had a three to nothing series.

49:19 Speaker 2: Lead read nothing lead in Game seven, only to sit

49:26 Speaker 2: there and watch one of the most painful Pudred melkdowns

49:33 Speaker 2: in Boston Bruin's playoff history.

49:36 Speaker 1: And when I tell you, I was in the building

49:40 Speaker 1: for that game, Oh there there there have been more

49:46 Speaker 1: than one game that if I could have taken my

49:48 Speaker 1: seat and ripped it out of the balcony floor and

49:53 Speaker 1: thrown it out on the ice, that would have been

49:56 Speaker 1: one of those games. Oh my god, I can't believe

49:59 Speaker 1: I didn't. You were there.

50:00 Speaker 4: I have to watch that twenty ten series again. I

50:03 Speaker 4: got it because I was in here. Here's what I

50:04 Speaker 4: will tell you.

50:05 Speaker 1: The lesson learned from that was the next year in

50:09 Speaker 1: the playoffs, the Bruins learned their lesson. Yes, they dose

50:15 Speaker 1: out your god damn opponent and step on the throat

50:21 Speaker 1: when the opportunity presents itself. But if it's still it's

50:26 Speaker 1: still one of those black marks in your history that

50:32 Speaker 1: people aren't going to forget for a long time. Yeah,

50:35 Speaker 1: what about twenty towy three? Is that twenty ten collapse

50:38 Speaker 1: as bad as a toy twenty three one, because that's

50:40 Speaker 1: the one that I first saw. Oh for Boston.

50:43 Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't talk about that, Okay, all right, everything

50:49 Speaker 3: was superseded when they gave away Brad marshanzo. But that

50:55 Speaker 3: being said, I want to thank you again so much

50:57 Speaker 3: for coming on and enlightening us, giving us something to

51:01 Speaker 3: kind of look forward to with the changes that are

51:04 Speaker 3: happening in Philadelphia. It's going to be an exciting trade deadline,

51:09 Speaker 3: and so we will be very sure to keep.

51:12 Speaker 10: An eye on what Philadelphia is up to and what

51:16 Speaker 10: they do with the draft and in the free agency,

51:19 Speaker 10: because I think we as Bruins fans, should be paying

51:23 Speaker 10: a little more attention.

51:24 Speaker 1: To what's happening down there.

51:25 Speaker 4: Yeah, the orfa UFA class for this year is a

51:28 Speaker 4: little bit thin, but I am sure that Danny Bronco

51:31 Speaker 4: will get creative.

51:32 Speaker 1: With how they can do that.

51:34 Speaker 4: So that'll that'll be interesting because that was also part

51:36 Speaker 4: of his rebuilt, was the twenty twenty six rfa UFA class,

51:39 Speaker 4: So that's going to be a little bit bit but

51:41 Speaker 4: we'll see what happens.

51:43 Speaker 3: Yeah, So Allie, tell our listeners where they can find

51:48 Speaker 3: your stuff online?

51:50 Speaker 4: All right, So you can find me on Beehive at

51:54 Speaker 4: all h Ali Shane dot behive dot com. There's a

51:57 Speaker 4: slash after the calm. You can also find me on

52:00 Speaker 4: Instagram at Ali Underscore Shade, Underscore Rights. You can also

52:05 Speaker 4: find me on Offside News. I cover the Montreal Victoire,

52:08 Speaker 4: which I think should be so unsurprising that I finally

52:11 Speaker 4: become a Habs fan and not surprised anyone at all.

52:17 Speaker 4: So I write about the Montreal Victoire on there, which

52:20 Speaker 4: is really cool. And also I'm on masted on at

52:23 Speaker 4: Ali the Wobbly at Collectiva dot social, so that's.

52:27 Speaker 1: Where you can find me.

52:28 Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll make sure to include that in our show

52:30 Speaker 3: notes and also when we post this on our substick.

52:36 Speaker 3: But again, thank you so much Ali for coming on

52:39 Speaker 3: and lightening us and sharing your take on what's going

52:43 Speaker 3: on with your team and for our listeners. Make sure

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53:04 Speaker 1: And as always, go Bees, Go Bees, Go Flyers