Down with Bruins Management! | Ep. 85

0:00 Speaker 1: So you know how at the end of every year we.

0:04 Speaker 2: Do the epitaph on the season, what was the cause

0:09 Speaker 2: of death? All right, So what was the cause of

0:12 Speaker 2: death for the Boston Bruins this year? What's on the tombstone?

0:18 Speaker 1: Inconsistency?

0:22 Speaker 2: Well, there you have it, the exact right end to

0:29 Speaker 2: this season, a loss and overtime.

0:32 Speaker 1: Dragging us to the end. So there you go. That

0:43 Speaker 1: was my father, moments after the Boston Bruins lost their

0:50 Speaker 1: final game in overtime to the New Jersey Devils, after

0:56 Speaker 1: clawing their way back up and having a pretty competitive

1:00 Speaker 1: game at points and then they just fell apart. So

1:06 Speaker 1: welcome in everyone to your final regular season episode of

1:12 Speaker 1: Bruin's Tape to Tape. I'm your host this evening, Caroline,

1:15 Speaker 1: and I am joined by my ever lovely co host, Maria.

1:20 Speaker 1: Hello Maria. How's they go on, Caroline? I'm good.

1:23 Speaker 3: I don't know how lovely I'm going to be as

1:26 Speaker 3: we get deeper into this episode, and I will do

1:31 Speaker 3: my utmost best not to blow a freaking gasket.

1:37 Speaker 1: I would tell people normally to watch us on YouTube,

1:41 Speaker 1: but I would say definitely switch over to YouTube at

1:44 Speaker 1: some point during this episode. So you can see the

1:47 Speaker 1: steam that's already starting to come out of Maria's ear.

1:53 Speaker 3: Your dad should have added, it was a slow and

1:58 Speaker 3: painful death this season. And why wouldn't they lose their

2:05 Speaker 3: last game in the manner and fashion in which they did,

2:10 Speaker 3: which has been occurring all goddamn season long.

2:17 Speaker 1: Yep, yep. It was everything that we experienced throughout the

2:24 Speaker 1: course of eighty two games all wrapped up into one game.

2:29 Speaker 1: But that's not really worth talking about specifically, because that

2:34 Speaker 1: actual game is neither here nor there. The players have

2:38 Speaker 1: since cleaned out their lockers and today, April seventeenth, they

2:45 Speaker 1: had their media availability where Boston's media had the chance

2:51 Speaker 1: to ask them to reflect, to think about the future,

2:57 Speaker 1: what they're going to be doing this summer. Do they

3:00 Speaker 1: want to come back? Which is always a ridiculous question,

3:03 Speaker 1: and actually I think Nikita Zidorov actually said that to

3:07 Speaker 1: one of the media folks, like that's you can't ask

3:10 Speaker 1: me that question, you know, whatever question it was. I

3:12 Speaker 1: loved it. I love watching him in these interviews. He

3:15 Speaker 1: scares me a little bit, and I like.

3:17 Speaker 3: Yeah, he scares me. I would be scared if I

3:19 Speaker 3: was in that locker room and was asking him a

3:21 Speaker 3: question exactly.

3:25 Speaker 1: But the Bruins are on the outside looking in for

3:28 Speaker 1: the first time officially since the twenty fifteen twenty sixteen season.

3:36 Speaker 1: And it's weird. It's I don't I don't know, I

3:41 Speaker 1: don't know how to feel. I forgot what this feels like,

3:46 Speaker 1: and a lot of those guys never felt this.

3:49 Speaker 3: You know what's even weirder is this. This was from

3:52 Speaker 3: Liam Mcue during a recent TNT broadcast. First time ever

4:00 Speaker 3: that four original six teams were not in the playoffs

4:08 Speaker 3: Boston Bruins, the New York Rangers, the Chicago Blackhawks, and

4:12 Speaker 3: the Detroit Red Wings.

4:14 Speaker 1: And on top of that, I believe Sportsnet also shared

4:18 Speaker 1: that it's the first time ever that the Rangers, the Bruins,

4:22 Speaker 1: and the Penguins are all not in together. So great

4:28 Speaker 1: two records set by this.

4:33 Speaker 3: We're not here to talk about those other teams. We're

4:36 Speaker 3: here to talk about what is now royally pissed us

4:42 Speaker 3: off because we want our management teams to talk. But

4:49 Speaker 3: when they talk out of their asses and they insult

4:54 Speaker 3: the intelligence of those of us who watch and pay attention, yeah,

5:00 Speaker 3: they can all kiss my ass.

5:05 Speaker 1: We will get to that after we have our break

5:09 Speaker 1: but just to give a quick summary and just a

5:12 Speaker 1: quick rundown about some of the conversations that were had,

5:17 Speaker 1: you know, besides the oh, how did you do? And

5:20 Speaker 1: blah blah blah, and you know, this is not my

5:23 Speaker 1: favorite media availability, and we'll talk a little bit about this,

5:27 Speaker 1: uh after our break. But the one piece that is

5:30 Speaker 1: always kind of interesting is to hear from the players

5:33 Speaker 1: themselves about maybe some of the injuries or setbacks that

5:37 Speaker 1: they had experienced during the season. Interesting tidbits. Nothing that

5:44 Speaker 1: really makes me feel any better about the product that

5:47 Speaker 1: I saw out on the ice, and I'm sure you

5:49 Speaker 1: agree with that. Maria will hardly agree with that, but

5:54 Speaker 1: you know, just some ah that's interesting. Charlie McAvoy, had

5:59 Speaker 1: the Boston Brewers actually made it into the first round,

6:02 Speaker 1: was probably going to be coming back, if not in

6:06 Speaker 1: time for playoffs shortly thereafter. It sounds like he had

6:09 Speaker 1: finally finished up all his course of antibiotics and everything

6:14 Speaker 1: that was kind of going on with that whole situation,

6:16 Speaker 1: which is pretty probably a little bit more scary I

6:20 Speaker 1: think than any of us truly truly realized that we

6:22 Speaker 1: all knew it was a serious thing, but the fact

6:24 Speaker 1: that he you know, this happened in February, and he's

6:27 Speaker 1: like only just now off the meds and everything to

6:31 Speaker 1: recover from that is just kind of reminds you like,

6:33 Speaker 1: that was a freak thing that happened to him.

6:38 Speaker 3: Yes, and the freakiness of the injury how it was handled,

6:42 Speaker 3: I think is still a question mark.

6:45 Speaker 1: Yep, yep, that was just crazy. I also didn't realize

6:50 Speaker 1: until this media availability that Hampus underwent a second surgical procedure.

6:58 Speaker 1: I think I maybe I thought it was a little

7:03 Speaker 1: bit different, but it sounds like again trying to come

7:06 Speaker 1: back a little bit too quickly, a little too soon.

7:09 Speaker 1: He actually felt back. He actually used the word and

7:13 Speaker 1: I don't know if he meant to say it or

7:14 Speaker 1: if he used the wrong words, but it sounded like

7:17 Speaker 1: he even said that he actually had refractured some element,

7:21 Speaker 1: not the main kneecap piece, but some element, and so

7:24 Speaker 1: there were some bits floating around and they had to

7:26 Speaker 1: get those taken out. So so that was a little

7:30 Speaker 1: bit of a surprise to me in the sense that

7:32 Speaker 1: it sounded like that second procedure was maybe a little

7:37 Speaker 1: bit more of a bigger deal than I had, at

7:42 Speaker 1: least initially thought when they said like, oh, he's just

7:46 Speaker 1: got to get a little bit of thing fixed up,

7:48 Speaker 1: and it's like, no, actually he had to have a

7:50 Speaker 1: second surgery. What so great, that's just you know, the

7:55 Speaker 1: cherry on top of the season. We also learned that

8:00 Speaker 1: probably one of the reasons why Elias Linnholm had such

8:04 Speaker 1: a lackluster start was the fact that he actually injured

8:09 Speaker 1: his back. You know, we knew he was injured during

8:15 Speaker 1: preseason and then you know, his wife had the baby

8:18 Speaker 1: and so he was like a little extra delayed and

8:20 Speaker 1: coming back. But like it sounds like there was actually

8:23 Speaker 1: legitimately something there, which again, all right, great, And then

8:32 Speaker 1: we talked.

8:32 Speaker 3: Air my tolerance for hearing about these things is waning

8:40 Speaker 3: at this point. Yeah, it's just waning. You guys, you

8:43 Speaker 3: had a terrible shit season.

8:45 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, just toilet that and the other one that

8:49 Speaker 1: kind of didn't even register on my radar and maybe

8:54 Speaker 1: others had noticed. But actually pavl Zaka had mentioned having

8:58 Speaker 1: some knee and their lower body issues in the final

9:03 Speaker 1: two months, but no surgery, So hooray. That means I

9:08 Speaker 1: guess we can expect everybody god willing to show up

9:11 Speaker 1: on the first day of training camp and actually participate

9:14 Speaker 1: in a full on training camp unlike this last season.

9:17 Speaker 1: But I think.

9:18 Speaker 3: We'll see about that. It always seems like we hear

9:22 Speaker 3: about something in you know, August or I know, well

9:25 Speaker 3: that's what happened with Marshancel. Really, you guys, have you've

9:29 Speaker 3: got plenty of time now to fix yourself up between

9:33 Speaker 3: now and next September. Can you just take care of

9:36 Speaker 3: whatever aches and pains you have now since you're off

9:41 Speaker 3: and done on your vacations a little bit sooner than expected.

9:45 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, But you know, it's like the expression, this

9:49 Speaker 1: straw that broke the camel's back. All of these things

9:52 Speaker 1: are little pieces of straw that just for this whole season.

9:56 Speaker 1: You know, they couldn't string wins together. There was something

10:00 Speaker 1: happening clearly with the coaching staff and this and that

10:04 Speaker 1: and the other, and it was just it's one thing

10:06 Speaker 1: after the other, and the next thing, you know, you're

10:10 Speaker 1: falling faster than a rock down a well in the

10:14 Speaker 1: season and you know you're done. So it's it's pretty

10:20 Speaker 1: interesting stuff. If you if you you got to clean

10:24 Speaker 1: your house or you're you know whatever, to throw it on.

10:26 Speaker 1: I mean, that's how I got through listening to you know,

10:29 Speaker 1: an hour's worth of a lot of the same questions

10:32 Speaker 1: and a lot of the same answers and whatever. Poor

10:37 Speaker 1: u Whusinadinov needs to to take some some language lessons

10:42 Speaker 1: from I know, I know he was adorable, but I

10:49 Speaker 1: felt so bad listening to him because he just he

10:52 Speaker 1: just didn't have the English down and so everything that

10:56 Speaker 1: was good, he was like, it's perfect, it's perfect.

10:59 Speaker 4: So it was.

11:00 Speaker 1: It was great. But you know, if you have a

11:02 Speaker 1: spare hour, like I said, or you're fiddle faddling around

11:06 Speaker 1: the house, give it a listen. We'll put the links

11:07 Speaker 1: in in the show notes. But other than that, we

11:16 Speaker 1: will do a little to spin around the rink because

11:20 Speaker 1: even though you know, the Bruins season is over and

11:24 Speaker 1: there's not much news now left to say, there's still

11:28 Speaker 1: now the whole second season, if you will. It is

11:32 Speaker 1: now high holy days of the playoff season. So Mario,

11:39 Speaker 1: why don't you take us on a spin around the rink?

11:41 Speaker 1: When when are playoffs starting? And what else should we

11:45 Speaker 1: be watching?

11:46 Speaker 3: Playoffs begin April nineteenth, that is Saturday night. They kick

11:54 Speaker 3: off with the Let's See Minnesota Wild series, which is

11:59 Speaker 3: set in a peg.

12:03 Speaker 1: Which is gonna be pretty pretty fantastic. I do have

12:07 Speaker 1: to say, Gary Bettman, I'm sure is just pleased as

12:12 Speaker 1: punch because the matchups for this particular round are just

12:19 Speaker 1: absolutely off the chart. They are off the charts.

12:22 Speaker 3: And think that, you know, some good teams are going

12:26 Speaker 3: to get knocked out in the first first round, but

12:30 Speaker 3: the seedings are what they are. But you've got the

12:33 Speaker 3: Blues at the Jets to start on Saturday night. Then

12:38 Speaker 3: you've got the Avalanche and the Stars that should be

12:41 Speaker 3: rivalry there tremendously theories, the ones that I'm going to

12:46 Speaker 3: be keeping my eye on.

12:47 Speaker 5: You.

12:48 Speaker 3: Yeah, the the Senators and the Maple Leafs. I so

12:54 Speaker 3: want these senders to upset now. I extra want that

12:59 Speaker 3: right right for lest give me, give me something to

13:02 Speaker 3: make the season worthwhile.

13:04 Speaker 1: But let's go Ottawa. For listeners who don't necessarily know

13:10 Speaker 1: or you know, maybe are you aren't in our discord group.

13:12 Speaker 1: I think this is where you and I had this

13:14 Speaker 1: conversation that I cannot root for a Western Conference team.

13:21 Speaker 1: I just I can't. Don't ask me why. I can't

13:25 Speaker 1: explain it. And so when we've been discussing, you know,

13:28 Speaker 1: who are we rooting for that we want to see

13:32 Speaker 1: a lot of consensus supporting Ottawa. You know, it started

13:36 Speaker 1: for me for Lena's and then also finding out about

13:40 Speaker 1: the Battle of Ontario. My god, they need to wait.

13:46 Speaker 3: I think there are gonna be a lot of a

13:48 Speaker 3: lot of hockey fans that are going to be become

13:52 Speaker 3: bandwagon Ottawa Auto Ottawa Senators fans. You know, I'm not

13:57 Speaker 3: as adamant about not rooting for a team in the West.

14:02 Speaker 3: I frankly, I think at this point I don't even

14:05 Speaker 3: want to see the Stanley Cup in the East. Just

14:08 Speaker 3: let it live in the West at this point, Okay,

14:11 Speaker 3: just let it live in the West for the upcoming season.

14:14 Speaker 3: You know, I do like the Colorado Avalanche and Cale

14:18 Speaker 3: mccarr is like, you know, my ideal hockey player.

14:23 Speaker 1: Well, and Gabe Landeskog is slated to be back for

14:28 Speaker 1: his very first game in three years, right it was

14:32 Speaker 1: twenty two. Yep. His his loan has ended with the

14:37 Speaker 1: AHL affiliate out there, so he's literally making his comeback

14:42 Speaker 1: in that first game. So that's gonna be that's gonna

14:45 Speaker 1: be exciting. If you've been watching the documentary.

14:47 Speaker 3: McKinnon is a beast, so he's insane. You know, it's

14:51 Speaker 3: it's going to be fun watching those two teams, the

14:55 Speaker 3: Avalanche and the Stars go at each other. You know,

15:00 Speaker 3: the Canadians Capitals series. I can't see the I mean,

15:05 Speaker 3: the Canadians could win one game, honestly, that's my thought,

15:10 Speaker 3: in one game in that series. But the Capitals should

15:14 Speaker 3: make relatively easy work of them. But you know, I

15:18 Speaker 3: could look like a fool for saying that. Here's where

15:24 Speaker 3: I think the NHL and their quote unquote partner ESPN

15:32 Speaker 3: have totally mucked this up. First of all, the Panthers

15:38 Speaker 3: and the Lightning don't play their first game against each

15:41 Speaker 3: other until Tuesday night, and their start time is eight

15:48 Speaker 3: thirty friggin PM.

15:50 Speaker 1: Two East Coast teams. Who cares?

15:54 Speaker 3: Who gives a rats ass about the Hurricanes and the

15:58 Speaker 3: Devils at this point, those two Florida teams. That's all

16:06 Speaker 3: you've heard about? Oh yeah, people on thirty two, Top Thoughts,

16:11 Speaker 3: spitting chick lits. Even the podcasts are local podcasts. That's

16:16 Speaker 3: the series that people want to pay attention to. Those

16:21 Speaker 3: two teams. The Panthers and the Lightning do not like

16:25 Speaker 3: each other. Do not like each other. No, you might

16:29 Speaker 3: be showcasing that, yet you let your broadcast partner ESPN.

16:35 Speaker 1: Not showcase them.

16:37 Speaker 3: That's where I think the NHL can't get out of

16:41 Speaker 3: their own f and way back in.

16:43 Speaker 1: Fact facts, you know, I think my tag was saying

16:48 Speaker 1: the last time that they had a Florida, a Battle

16:51 Speaker 1: of Florida series, here was a blood bath, like it's

16:54 Speaker 1: going to be insane. That series is that, And I

17:00 Speaker 1: would argue in the West, probably the second most intense

17:05 Speaker 1: series is actually going to be Edmonton in LA only

17:09 Speaker 1: because this is the third year in a row that

17:13 Speaker 1: these two teams have played against each other in the

17:15 Speaker 1: first round. So there is going to be a lot

17:20 Speaker 1: of bad blood in that specific series because of the

17:25 Speaker 1: history that they have had for three years, three years,

17:28 Speaker 1: even the Devils in Carolina, they've played against each other,

17:34 Speaker 1: if not the last two seasons, they've played against each

17:37 Speaker 1: other three seasons maybe, but never neither has both been

17:42 Speaker 1: in the same round. And there's just developed this this

17:48 Speaker 1: tension between those two teams in LA and in Edmonton.

17:51 Speaker 1: So I think, you know, that's and that's a distant

17:54 Speaker 1: second to what's gonna happen in Florida. And then I

17:59 Speaker 1: would say the third one is also then the Ottawa

18:02 Speaker 1: and Toronto one only because it's the Battle of Ontario.

18:08 Speaker 1: Because I mean, there's gonna be a ton of new

18:10 Speaker 1: fans coming out of the woodwork for Ottawa. But that's

18:13 Speaker 1: the fan base, isn't there. I don't get it. I don't,

18:16 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't understand.

18:18 Speaker 3: But what what's so important on ESPN Baseball right now,

18:23 Speaker 3: April and Ape? I mean, is it the We all

18:26 Speaker 3: know the NBA, the NBA is gonna win out over.

18:28 Speaker 1: They start a week later. Their playoffs are always like

18:31 Speaker 1: a week or two later.

18:33 Speaker 3: So their Celtic the Celtics start their playoffs on Sunday.

18:38 Speaker 1: Then that's either early or the NHL is late because

18:42 Speaker 1: it's usually at least a week I know.

18:44 Speaker 3: Still, but it's just again, I just don't understand why

18:50 Speaker 3: the NHL is allowing this to happen.

18:54 Speaker 1: This is supposed to be.

18:56 Speaker 3: This is when you showcase your sport, okay and hockey. Yeah,

19:05 Speaker 3: with series you are showcasing. I'm sorry, you should be

19:11 Speaker 3: cherry picking them.

19:12 Speaker 1: Yeah, well leave it up to Gary Bettman and ESPN two.

19:19 Speaker 1: And yet can I say the ESPN broadcast teams, well,

19:24 Speaker 1: you know, I feel you know, I know, but row

19:28 Speaker 1: cannot shut up to save his life. I just want

19:32 Speaker 1: the person calling.

19:33 Speaker 3: The game to the T and T crew cannot hold

19:38 Speaker 3: a candle to the TNT crew in any way, shape

19:41 Speaker 3: or form.

19:43 Speaker 1: It's it's yeah, it's brutal. It's brutal. It is brutal.

19:47 Speaker 1: But we do get to watch, uh, the local broadcasts

19:51 Speaker 1: first round because typically first round is still done by

19:56 Speaker 1: the local affiliates, so you've got that at least, But

20:02 Speaker 1: still they're at the mercy of the scheduler for ESPN,

20:07 Speaker 1: so and that's a lot of sitting around on that.

20:09 Speaker 3: When I saw the schedule for that, and I'm like,

20:12 Speaker 3: first of all, why the hell are they not playing

20:14 Speaker 3: until Tuesday?

20:15 Speaker 1: Well, Colorado has been done since Sunday or Monday. They're done.

20:22 Speaker 1: They're sitting for five days.

20:24 Speaker 3: Like that's terrible, I know, right, So again, I know,

20:29 Speaker 3: maybe we're missing something. I don't know, maybe we're missing something.

20:34 Speaker 3: But you know, you mentioned the Minnesota Wild.

20:39 Speaker 1: They captured their spot in pretty fantastic fashion. It went

20:46 Speaker 1: into overtime. If you haven't seen the video clips, I

20:48 Speaker 1: mean they've been all over my social media. But then again,

20:51 Speaker 1: I follow a lot of hockey stuff, so my algorithms

20:53 Speaker 1: are on point, but they they or gust of Sin

21:00 Speaker 1: himself tapped Marc Andre Fleury to go in and be

21:04 Speaker 1: in the overtime and he made a two pad stack

21:07 Speaker 1: like he made some saves in that overtime.

21:11 Speaker 3: I think he kissed the post and they got over time. Yep,

21:15 Speaker 3: yep they he was caught tapping the posts.

21:17 Speaker 1: I had to or show my daughter and uh yeah,

21:20 Speaker 1: they made it through. And you know, that could very

21:22 Speaker 1: well have been his absolute final time actually playing playing

21:28 Speaker 1: the game that he loves so much. Obviously, Gustafson is

21:31 Speaker 1: their starter and he's gonna probably be the one going

21:34 Speaker 1: all the way and unless something crazy happens, uh, you know,

21:39 Speaker 1: he's officially done, which is crazy to see there there.

21:44 Speaker 1: There won't ever be a goaltender like him again in

21:49 Speaker 1: every way that you could possibly quantify that statement.

21:51 Speaker 3: And I may be mistaken, but didn't they punch their

21:54 Speaker 3: ticket into the wild card with that event.

21:58 Speaker 1: Yes, yep, they did that very at the very last

22:01 Speaker 1: game there so and then the other playoff hopeful team

22:07 Speaker 1: in the Boston area, of course, the Boston Fleet. They've

22:09 Speaker 1: got three games remaining. Nesson does carry that so again

22:14 Speaker 1: highly recommend watching their games on Nesson and hopefully they've

22:19 Speaker 1: they've finished strong. I think like they've been slipping in

22:23 Speaker 1: the last couple of games.

22:24 Speaker 3: But they're the last two games, which is, you know,

22:28 Speaker 3: not how you want to develop some steam heading into

22:31 Speaker 3: the playoffs. But they've they've got some time to write

22:35 Speaker 3: the ship before their playoffs begin on May fifth.

22:39 Speaker 1: And remember their playoff is obviously shorter, doesn't go as

22:44 Speaker 1: far into the summer because there are only six teams

22:47 Speaker 1: and only four right go in. Yes, so it's but shorter,

22:54 Speaker 1: but still very exciting and actually kind of fun. Fact,

22:58 Speaker 1: Montreal is the only city that has all of their teams,

23:05 Speaker 1: all their professional sports teams going into the postseason right now,

23:10 Speaker 1: the only one. So yep, yep, NHL, p w HL,

23:17 Speaker 1: whatever else I saw. I don't know what other sports,

23:20 Speaker 1: but I did see it said all of their sports,

23:22 Speaker 1: so I thought that was kind of cool good, I

23:25 Speaker 1: don't know, but I'm not for the Montreal Canadians now

23:31 Speaker 1: ever wherever. So with that, we're gonna take a quick

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23:42 Speaker 1: about to go. I was gonna say unhinged, but that

23:46 Speaker 1: sounds terrified. We're gonna unleash on this spot.

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26:11 Speaker 1: So, Maria, before we really dive in, we were having

26:16 Speaker 1: a conversation about some of those interviews that we heard today,

26:20 Speaker 1: and we heard a couple of things that we really

26:23 Speaker 1: liked to hear, and we're going to play them for you.

26:27 Speaker 1: But first let's listen to this clip from Morgan Geeky.

26:34 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean anytime you can stick around. Like I

26:37 Speaker 7: said it, I love it here and I'd love to

26:39 Speaker 7: be here as long as I can. So that's set

26:42 Speaker 7: a goal. But you know, especially with the family now

26:46 Speaker 7: and being able to be in one spot would be

26:48 Speaker 7: would be awesome. But like I said, it's a business

26:53 Speaker 7: at the end of the day, and people are going

26:54 Speaker 7: to have their opinions and they're going to decide what

26:55 Speaker 7: they want to decide. But it was up to me,

26:57 Speaker 7: I'd love to stay as long as I can, and

26:59 Speaker 7: I can't say about good things about the organization and

27:02 Speaker 7: the guys and the culture here, so definitely I would

27:05 Speaker 7: love to stay for as long as I could.

27:08 Speaker 1: So, Maria, you've heard now straight from the horse's mouth.

27:12 Speaker 1: He really loves it here in Boston. Are you feeling

27:15 Speaker 1: confident in how this summer is going to turn out

27:19 Speaker 1: for him, both on the financial side and also maintenance

27:24 Speaker 1: side going into the new year? What are your expectations

27:29 Speaker 1: on that front.

27:30 Speaker 3: No, I don't expect anything to go well for him, because,

27:35 Speaker 3: first of all, I don't because I don't trust. I

27:39 Speaker 3: no longer trust Don Sweeney nor Kim Neely when it

27:44 Speaker 3: comes to negotiating contracts with players. And while I appreciate

27:52 Speaker 3: what Morgan Geeky said, what he has done now is

27:56 Speaker 3: given them a negotiating tactic that they could potentially use

28:01 Speaker 3: against him.

28:02 Speaker 1: Oh.

28:03 Speaker 3: Look, he really wants to stay here, he really wants to.

28:07 Speaker 1: Be a bruin.

28:09 Speaker 3: Let's see if we can nickel and dime him and

28:12 Speaker 3: low ball him. The other thing that I expect them

28:16 Speaker 3: to use is the fact that he's had so much

28:19 Speaker 3: success by playing along David Pasternak. And my expectation is,

28:25 Speaker 3: because Neely is a snake, that they will also then

28:31 Speaker 3: try to use that against him. Right, And what I

28:35 Speaker 3: would have because of him, right, And I know we

28:38 Speaker 3: want honesty from the players.

28:41 Speaker 1: What I would have preferred him to say is right.

28:46 Speaker 3: We just ended the season. I need to wrap my

28:49 Speaker 3: head around how this season ended, and that's something to

28:55 Speaker 3: think about down the road.

28:57 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I want him to stay here. Do I

29:02 Speaker 1: think you should stay here?

29:04 Speaker 3: Yes, because I've said it before. If Pasta is happy,

29:09 Speaker 3: then everyone in the organization should be happy well.

29:14 Speaker 1: And then so speaking of David Pasternak, you know, of

29:17 Speaker 1: course the question came up in his interview about the

29:22 Speaker 1: future of the captaincy and leadership, and this is what

29:27 Speaker 1: he had to say, would you like to wear the secret?

29:32 Speaker 8: Listen? You know, it's like I said, like the leaders

29:36 Speaker 8: I had around me, he was never about who wears

29:38 Speaker 8: the lead C or who wears the A. Everybody in

29:41 Speaker 8: the room is bequl here and we need to make

29:43 Speaker 8: sure that, you know, that's one of the things that

29:48 Speaker 8: we have to found a group of the core again

29:51 Speaker 8: that you know, willing to put the work in. And

29:54 Speaker 8: and like I said, it's not about one guy, It's

29:56 Speaker 8: going to be multiple of us, and we need to

29:59 Speaker 8: be be working together. And you know, well, like I said,

30:03 Speaker 8: doesn't matter who's going to end up wearing any letter,

30:06 Speaker 8: but starts in a group. Everybody's think equal here. No

30:09 Speaker 8: matter if you're a young older and that's you know,

30:12 Speaker 8: that's what always been like and we have to keep

30:14 Speaker 8: you going.

30:16 Speaker 1: So Rio, what's your take on what he said about,

30:20 Speaker 1: you know, everyone being equal and everyone doing the work

30:24 Speaker 1: and not really interested in it sounded to me that

30:28 Speaker 1: he wasn't really interested in having that conversation. You know,

30:33 Speaker 1: he wasn't willing to entertain that idea at all. You know,

30:36 Speaker 1: because anybody who anybody could say, oh, yeah, no, of

30:40 Speaker 1: course that would be great, but like, that's not my decision.

30:42 Speaker 1: He didn't even he didn't give thee anything to hang

30:45 Speaker 1: on to correct. I thought that was a master class

30:51 Speaker 1: in this is how you don't show your hand too,

30:57 Speaker 1: especially the people who are actually watching.

31:00 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that to me is all the reason why

31:04 Speaker 3: you should consider him as your next captain for the

31:09 Speaker 3: Boston Bruins.

31:10 Speaker 1: Yep, what he.

31:12 Speaker 3: Did this season, given everything that went on, the fact

31:18 Speaker 3: that the fact that David Pasternak is not in the

31:22 Speaker 3: post season is fucking sinful, sinful and shameful that he

31:30 Speaker 3: is not on a team that is at least going

31:35 Speaker 3: into the first round of the playoffs. Be that as

31:39 Speaker 3: it may be, that as it may I know he

31:42 Speaker 3: made reference to the fact that and again that to

31:44 Speaker 3: me speaks to a culture that has been built over

31:50 Speaker 3: time that he clearly has received the benefit of, has

31:54 Speaker 3: been listening, has absorbed right, wants to carry on that foundation. Yep,

32:03 Speaker 3: because you know, and he also referenced, you know, the

32:06 Speaker 3: void left by Charlie McAvoy not being.

32:12 Speaker 1: Available.

32:13 Speaker 3: He had to slend home not being available, even though

32:16 Speaker 3: he didn't have a letter on his sweater. The one

32:22 Speaker 3: thing he neglected to say is the void that was

32:24 Speaker 3: created when they actually traded their captain at the time.

32:31 Speaker 1: Yep. But I think that just kind of goes to

32:36 Speaker 1: lends to his savvy in that, you know, his growth

32:41 Speaker 1: and maturity. Yeah, you know, he didn't have to talk

32:44 Speaker 1: about well, you just got rid of all of the leaders.

32:46 Speaker 1: Other players talked about that, But for him, I think

32:50 Speaker 1: he knew, you know, that's something that he didn't have

32:54 Speaker 1: control over, right, he didn't have control over the fact

32:57 Speaker 1: that all of a sudden, in an instant, they were

33:00 Speaker 1: all gone. It sounds like from some of the other

33:02 Speaker 1: interviews that they all went at the exact same time too,

33:08 Speaker 1: So like a lot of people found out boom boom, boom,

33:10 Speaker 1: bom boom, that all four of these guys were gone,

33:12 Speaker 1: and so I think it was smart of him to

33:15 Speaker 1: kind of not really focus on any of those guys

33:17 Speaker 1: being traded away, and more so saying like I didn't

33:21 Speaker 1: even have access to the people who were still on

33:25 Speaker 1: this team who could have helped me correct, and I

33:28 Speaker 1: still took it on. I did all that work. And

33:30 Speaker 1: so for that reason, small plug obviously for ourselves as

33:36 Speaker 1: an NHL Shop affiliate, I am personally holding off on

33:40 Speaker 1: purchasing my new Boston Bruins jersey because I now have none.

33:45 Speaker 1: Both guys are gone. I'm gonna wait and buy using

33:48 Speaker 1: our link and code in the fall to get a

33:53 Speaker 1: Posternach jersey. I'm just waiting to see if it's gonna

33:56 Speaker 1: come with a letter or not. So I don't know

33:58 Speaker 1: about you, Maria, but.

34:01 Speaker 3: How I feel about the Jacobs family right now, I

34:05 Speaker 3: wouldn't give them a penny for a jersey.

34:08 Speaker 1: I know, I known for a jersey.

34:12 Speaker 3: I might change my mind when I see if in

34:15 Speaker 3: what happens in the off season. But I do think

34:19 Speaker 3: that you saw other players coming to David Pastronach's aid

34:27 Speaker 3: because of you know, not having Charlie McAboy available and

34:32 Speaker 3: in the room the fact that they Brad marchand who

34:36 Speaker 3: was wearing the seat was traded to the Florida Panthers,

34:40 Speaker 3: and you saw guys like nikita'sador Off and even Elias Lindholm,

34:46 Speaker 3: you know, speaking honestly and openly about you know, their

34:51 Speaker 3: their frustrations and you know, taking on some leadership responsibilities

35:00 Speaker 3: to aid that, you know, the guy who's basically been

35:03 Speaker 3: carrying them on the ice since January one.

35:08 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was pretty clear. And you know, obviously

35:13 Speaker 1: one of the things, as I had teased at the

35:15 Speaker 1: start of the show, that I don't love about these

35:18 Speaker 1: media availabilities, Like, yes, there are great things you know,

35:22 Speaker 1: we get to hear from some of the players that

35:24 Speaker 1: maybe we don't hear from a lot or we you know,

35:27 Speaker 1: maybe hear a little personal antidote anecdotes and things like

35:30 Speaker 1: nice little fluffy things that we like. But the other

35:34 Speaker 1: thing is that they can't be completely honest about everything. Right. Still,

35:43 Speaker 1: the clearly it was a significant impact on the team psychologically,

35:49 Speaker 1: and one or two players mentioned it from that perspective

35:52 Speaker 1: as well. Others just said how it was.

35:54 Speaker 9: Hard that these guys were gone, that it was it

35:59 Speaker 9: was a it wasn't just a hole that was left

36:02 Speaker 9: behind because one player was, you know, traded away.

36:05 Speaker 1: This was a gaping hole left behind because of how

36:09 Speaker 1: many people went.

36:10 Speaker 10: Away and was gutted, right, And I think what I

36:16 Speaker 10: think it was Pasta who said that, you know, we

36:20 Speaker 10: just got to create a new core.

36:21 Speaker 1: Now, we just have to identify those new guys who

36:24 Speaker 1: can be that new core and move on with them.

36:28 Speaker 1: And I was pleased to hear him say a lot

36:32 Speaker 1: of the same things that we've known about the Boston

36:37 Speaker 1: Bruins culture because I like it. I think it's very

36:44 Speaker 1: different than the locker room of a lot of other

36:47 Speaker 1: teams that, you know, maybe are a little bit less healthy.

36:51 Speaker 1: And to hear him kind of still continue to talk

36:54 Speaker 1: about it because he was around with Chara, right, he was,

36:57 Speaker 1: and he got that all from Bergie, and he got

36:59 Speaker 1: that from Marsh and he's living it and he's teaching

37:02 Speaker 1: and talking about it, and that's great to hear that

37:04 Speaker 1: kind of be able to continue. I was honestly surprised,

37:08 Speaker 1: and I guess kind of impressed by Nikita Zadorov and

37:15 Speaker 1: his at least off the ice leadership. I will still

37:19 Speaker 1: say I am mixed feelings about him as a player,

37:24 Speaker 1: his performance on the ice, I'm like, I'm not You're

37:28 Speaker 1: not alone. I mean, his his decision.

37:31 Speaker 3: Making right, some of his hockey IQ was yeah, yes,

37:36 Speaker 3: very very questionable, and I started to wonder, like, what's

37:40 Speaker 3: what's here?

37:41 Speaker 1: Level is your hockey IQ at right now?

37:45 Speaker 5: Right?

37:45 Speaker 3: I mean, it sounds like I'm being demeaning and insulting

37:48 Speaker 3: and that's not how I'm tending it no to be.

37:51 Speaker 3: But the decision making sometimes was like dude, what what

37:55 Speaker 3: are you thinking right now?

37:56 Speaker 1: Yeah? But I and I have to say, again with

37:59 Speaker 1: full disclosure, coming from a if a Polish family and

38:04 Speaker 1: Slavs and they're very direct nature and how they speak

38:08 Speaker 1: to you. I don't know if it's like a comfort thing,

38:11 Speaker 1: but listening to him talk, not the accent, but the

38:16 Speaker 1: way that he talks very direct. You know, we joked

38:20 Speaker 1: about this offline earlier. I said, you know, he is

38:24 Speaker 1: kind of a scary dude. He's gonna be very motivational,

38:27 Speaker 1: but in a scary way, Like he'll come in and

38:29 Speaker 1: say you need to skate harder, you need to skate faster, okay, okay,

38:33 Speaker 1: you need to believe in yourself, you need to have

38:35 Speaker 1: faith okay, okay, Like like equally supportive and holding you accountable,

38:42 Speaker 1: but in a yelling way. But the yelling is love.

38:44 Speaker 3: I don't know, well in a season that didn't bring

38:49 Speaker 3: a lot of chuckles to my face.

38:51 Speaker 1: Yeah.

38:51 Speaker 3: His when he was asked about the Jeremy Swayman almost

38:56 Speaker 3: fight and his response, Oh, that is that what we're

39:00 Speaker 3: calling it? No comment to me, I was just like,

39:03 Speaker 3: all right, give me that all the time. I love that.

39:06 Speaker 3: I love that stuff because I think more often than

39:09 Speaker 3: not that if that first response is typically the most

39:16 Speaker 3: honest and reactive response. Right now, I get it. You

39:20 Speaker 3: walked it back right. You can't hurt your eight million

39:23 Speaker 3: dollar goalies feelings. I get it, I get it.

39:28 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think he's going to have a voice.

39:32 Speaker 1: Uh now, That not that he couldn't write, It's just

39:38 Speaker 1: that it wasn't maybe his place too, because of you know.

39:43 Speaker 3: Right you're in now, you still had Charlie McAvoy available,

39:51 Speaker 3: You still had Randon Carlow available, Charlie Coyle was still around,

39:58 Speaker 3: Brad marshand had the c ASTA had a letter, So right,

40:02 Speaker 3: it wasn't his place and he wasn't in his place.

40:06 Speaker 1: It was his first season. But I I think my

40:11 Speaker 1: opinion about him in terms of what he is going

40:15 Speaker 1: to bring to this team has changed, because we talk

40:19 Speaker 1: about this on the podcast all the time, that everybody

40:22 Speaker 1: has a job, right, not just a job on the ice,

40:25 Speaker 1: but a job off the ice, right. And I can

40:30 Speaker 1: see him now filling a void, you know, in his

40:36 Speaker 1: brand of leadership, his very direct leadership, calling it as

40:41 Speaker 1: he sees it is a is a great accountability tool

40:46 Speaker 1: because I don't think he's gonna he's not gonna sugarcoat

40:49 Speaker 1: it because people don't do that. He shouldn't and he

40:53 Speaker 1: shouldn't and I don't know that there was truly a

40:56 Speaker 1: voice like that on the team six months ago. Maybe

41:00 Speaker 1: Brad Marsham, but he is the one person, and he

41:02 Speaker 1: was a captain, and he's doing all the other things

41:05 Speaker 1: that a captain does, right, you need someone else to

41:08 Speaker 1: also be doing that, you know. Maybe maybe that's what

41:12 Speaker 1: Uncle Nick kind of was doing in a way right

41:15 Speaker 1: with his form of accountability and granted in a softer way,

41:19 Speaker 1: but who knows. But understanding this about Zadorov and his

41:23 Speaker 1: leadership and seeing him step in has completely changed my

41:27 Speaker 1: perspective of how he can truly contribute to this team

41:31 Speaker 1: in a really meaningful way. I don't know about you, no, no, no,

41:34 Speaker 1: I agree with you.

41:36 Speaker 3: I would like to see, you know, his his a

41:40 Speaker 3: decision making improve with the upcoming season or over the

41:45 Speaker 3: course of the summer. But that could be said about

41:49 Speaker 3: a lot of our players. I mean, you know, Louri

41:53 Speaker 3: while we're doing an up ataf okay, Mason LORII was

41:59 Speaker 3: a disaster stir to finish the season. Like I don't

42:04 Speaker 3: know what happened to him after. Like he he was playing,

42:12 Speaker 3: he was amazing, He was very, very good immediately after

42:19 Speaker 3: Charlie McAvoy's injury, and then his progression defensively just took

42:27 Speaker 3: a nose dive that he couldn't recover from. I don't

42:32 Speaker 3: even know what his plus minus finished at, but it

42:35 Speaker 3: was pretty gross. And I know that's not the only

42:38 Speaker 3: stat that's disgusting. I'm sorry, that's disgusting. And well, we

42:44 Speaker 3: had conversations in our discord. Does he really want to

42:49 Speaker 3: be a defensive defenseman because he seems to want to

42:52 Speaker 3: focus on his offensive skills a defenseman. But kiddo, you

42:58 Speaker 3: still got to play some defense.

43:01 Speaker 1: Well, And to your point, you know, we didn't have

43:04 Speaker 1: an opportunity to have a obviously a podcast between when

43:09 Speaker 1: the Bruins played Pittsburgh and today, because that's just when

43:13 Speaker 1: it happened. And at the very start of that game,

43:18 Speaker 1: something really struck me.

43:21 Speaker 11: Was it?

43:22 Speaker 1: Oh it was not It wasn't anessen, It was a

43:24 Speaker 1: it was a national game. So it was one of

43:29 Speaker 1: the announcers play by play color guys, uh talking right

43:33 Speaker 1: before the puck drop about you know, different players on

43:36 Speaker 1: the team, and they talked first about Carlson, who has

43:39 Speaker 1: notoriously been known as a defenseman who you know, tries

43:45 Speaker 1: to score a million goals and like that's obviously how

43:48 Speaker 1: he won the Norris in spite of having a terrible

43:51 Speaker 1: actual defensive stats. And the way that the announcer was

43:56 Speaker 1: kind of talking about Carlson was kind of not derogatory,

44:02 Speaker 1: but like, you know, that guy only flowers out him.

44:05 Speaker 1: He wasn't throwing flowers out him, right, that guy, you know,

44:09 Speaker 1: he's a guy, but he's old, so you know, it

44:12 Speaker 1: is what it is, but he should spend more of

44:15 Speaker 1: his career focusing on actually being a defenseman. And then

44:19 Speaker 1: he pivots and he says, this is what Mason Lauri

44:23 Speaker 1: is facing right now, that he needs to decide now

44:27 Speaker 1: because he's twenty three years old. He needs to decide, now,

44:30 Speaker 1: do you want to be a defenceman? Because if not,

44:34 Speaker 1: you're going to be like Carlson and be no good

44:40 Speaker 1: as a defenceman. And so I mean basically so so

44:45 Speaker 1: as an offensive player who is a defenceman, Like you're

44:48 Speaker 1: not a forward, so you can't compete with forwards if

44:51 Speaker 1: your job is defense, like, do you want to be

44:54 Speaker 1: one of the other You have to decide now. It's

44:56 Speaker 1: at a pivotal point in his career. And I thought,

44:59 Speaker 1: holy cow, I never even thought of it that way,

45:02 Speaker 1: But he's absolutely right, what do you want to actually be?

45:05 Speaker 3: But how much of that do we put on the player?

45:07 Speaker 3: And how much do we put on hunters coaching and

45:10 Speaker 3: scouting stuff, because they're the ones that have putting this

45:13 Speaker 3: kid in the position of we want you to quarterback

45:16 Speaker 3: the powerplay.

45:17 Speaker 1: You're the quarterback of the power play.

45:18 Speaker 3: We want you to quarterback the power play, which is fine,

45:22 Speaker 3: which is fine, yes, but.

45:24 Speaker 1: That needs tack me a freaking balance, right, And I

45:29 Speaker 1: do wonder you make an excellent point then, because I

45:34 Speaker 1: have firmly believed that while some of it his on

45:37 Speaker 1: ice mistakes are him because he's a kid and he's

45:40 Speaker 1: learning and he's got to get exposed to these things.

45:42 Speaker 1: But what is that messaging? You know, was he to

45:48 Speaker 1: some degree either overtly or tacitly, told like, okay.

45:54 Speaker 5: Well now that Charlie is out, Hampus is out, like

45:58 Speaker 5: you're our next most offensive defenceman, be like them, Except

46:05 Speaker 5: wait a minute.

46:06 Speaker 1: Those guys are pushing thirty and he's barely old enough

46:10 Speaker 1: to drink. So there, you can't like, there's clearly a

46:14 Speaker 1: disconnect there because those guys have had years of experience

46:17 Speaker 1: doing both of those things, and you're now maybe asking

46:20 Speaker 1: a twenty three year old to pick up the offensive

46:24 Speaker 1: and defensive pace of these two veterans. So I think

46:29 Speaker 1: there was something not right in that either communication.

46:35 Speaker 3: And I think some of this is a damnation of

46:39 Speaker 3: the coaching staff as well. Yeah, as far as I'm concerned,

46:43 Speaker 3: you can, you can tell me all you want, right, Okay,

46:46 Speaker 3: I get it. Joe Sako was put in an untenable position,

46:51 Speaker 3: an untenable position. But this management team, this management team

46:59 Speaker 3: doesn't know what to do with themselves. When they have

47:02 Speaker 3: good coaches, they don't know how to manage them, or

47:08 Speaker 3: or are they just not capable of identifying, okay, of

47:14 Speaker 3: identifying a good coaching staff. You left Jim Montgomery to

47:20 Speaker 3: start the season flailing around in the wind with no contract.

47:26 Speaker 3: Didn't seem like they were having conversations. Story was they

47:30 Speaker 3: offered him. He said no, wasn't sure what he wanted

47:33 Speaker 3: to do. This, that and the other thing, all the

47:38 Speaker 3: freaking something, and they gave him random of Neelie and

47:42 Speaker 3: Sweeney when it comes to these types of decisions, okay,

47:48 Speaker 3: and now now they use the Boston Globe as their mouthpieces,

47:53 Speaker 3: all right, as their mouthpiece to throw the outgoing person

48:00 Speaker 3: under the bus. This is out of the book, chapter

48:05 Speaker 3: and verse of what Robert Kraft has been doing since

48:11 Speaker 3: he fired not fired, but he did fire Bill Balichuck.

48:16 Speaker 1: Okay, exactly when you, I mean, how many times have

48:20 Speaker 1: we seen this in other facets of our own lives,

48:24 Speaker 1: right where you kind of set someone up and say,

48:30 Speaker 1: oh no, no, no, you're in charge, but you're not

48:32 Speaker 1: given the resources, you're not given the support, you're not

48:35 Speaker 1: given the time. We're going to keep these guys. We

48:38 Speaker 1: like these guys, right, Okay, So you didn't then let

48:41 Speaker 1: Jim Montgomery have his own coaching staff and you knew

48:44 Speaker 1: that the relationship was probably starting to go south, so

48:48 Speaker 1: you just let him flail, like you said, and then

48:51 Speaker 1: wait and see what happens, and then we can just

48:54 Speaker 1: fire him. And he saw the writing on the wall.

48:56 Speaker 1: You could see his demeanor change as the time the

49:01 Speaker 1: clock went by. But even with Joe Sako, they never

49:06 Speaker 1: replaced him on the staff. So he was doing his

49:12 Speaker 1: job and the interim had coaches job. What why would

49:18 Speaker 1: they not then just say like, oh, well, let's bring

49:22 Speaker 1: someone up from Providence, right like have them be interim

49:26 Speaker 1: or whatever, or freaking hire some I don't understand why

49:29 Speaker 1: they can't hire a non head coach in season, Like

49:35 Speaker 1: why didn't they fill that role? Wasn't he He wasn't

49:39 Speaker 1: the penalty kill. Wasn't he was penalty killed? He was

49:42 Speaker 1: a piquet. No wonder it suffered because a man can't

49:46 Speaker 1: do two jobs like you can't. No it.

49:52 Speaker 3: For an organization that has used hard accountability how many

49:59 Speaker 3: times over the course of this season, When when are Charlie,

50:05 Speaker 3: cam and don going to look in the goddamn mirrors

50:10 Speaker 3: and hold themselves accountable for where we find ourselves now?

50:16 Speaker 3: When how many how many more kicks at the goddamn

50:21 Speaker 3: can are we going to give.

50:25 Speaker 1: Don and Cam? Well, I will pose this to our

50:30 Speaker 1: listeners and make sure you find us on all of

50:33 Speaker 1: our socials to tell us what you think or join

50:36 Speaker 1: us in our discord. But per Charlie Jacobs to the

50:40 Speaker 1: Globe quote, it's hard for me to wrap my head

50:44 Speaker 1: around why people call for Cam Neely and Don Sweeney's

50:47 Speaker 1: heads rather than blow up the Bruins. They quote need

50:51 Speaker 1: to build, to use Don's term specifically, to retool.

50:56 Speaker 3: Are you joking? And he also used the word recovery.

51:01 Speaker 3: We're going they're going to work on a recovery. So

51:06 Speaker 3: let me let me set the table for this.

51:09 Speaker 11: Okay, job, Charlie Jacob, No, Marialy froze.

51:22 Speaker 1: Okay you froze. You have to start over, all right,

51:30 Speaker 1: all right, Marien? So what what is it?

51:36 Speaker 3: Charlie Jacobs is a jock sniffing buffoone.

51:41 Speaker 1: Okay.

51:43 Speaker 3: He insults the intelligence of every and any Bruins fan

51:53 Speaker 3: that pays time, attention and spends money to watch this team.

52:00 Speaker 3: How dare you say that you are a Bruin? You

52:05 Speaker 3: have no fucking clue what it means to be a Bruin.

52:11 Speaker 1: You don't bleed black and gold. The only thing your.

52:16 Speaker 3: Family bleeds is green from money. Okay, that's all you

52:21 Speaker 3: care about. You don't care about winning a Stanley Cup.

52:26 Speaker 3: You don't care about championships, you don't care about You

52:29 Speaker 3: care about making sure that they're abuts in those seats.

52:35 Speaker 1: But even then they don't care because and you reward you.

52:41 Speaker 1: What's happening in Seattle. Immediately at the end of their season,

52:46 Speaker 1: their management came out and they said, this was unacceptable.

52:51 Speaker 1: We are recommitting ourselves to the fans and to this team.

52:56 Speaker 1: They're offering lower prices for their tickets. They're giving special

53:02 Speaker 1: discounts on things like concessions and what have you to

53:06 Speaker 1: season ticket holders. Like, that's a commitment, and.

53:10 Speaker 3: What do we get, Dad, We got this guy.

53:13 Speaker 1: Saying, I don't I don't understand why people want them fired.

53:17 Speaker 1: My dude, good sir. When your team fails to actually

53:22 Speaker 1: win a Stanley Cup with the roster that we have

53:24 Speaker 1: had over the last ten years, and you keep getting

53:28 Speaker 1: these players who either walk out the door, who don't

53:31 Speaker 1: become something, and you also throw away your franchise captain.

53:38 Speaker 1: Just like when your team go down the toilet, you

53:40 Speaker 1: fire the coach you can't.

53:47 Speaker 3: So, and and this is how I know that he

53:50 Speaker 3: is a fraud because now, okay, Sam don Charlie, right,

53:56 Speaker 3: they only sit down with the Boston Gloat. They only

53:59 Speaker 3: sit down with the Globe. So you don't even have

54:02 Speaker 3: the Cajonis to sit down with. Oh, I don't know

54:07 Speaker 3: other members of the media that are covering your team

54:11 Speaker 3: day in and day out for eighty two freaking games.

54:15 Speaker 3: You only go to the soft landing spot, okay, because

54:18 Speaker 3: what are you afraid of?

54:19 Speaker 1: Are you afraid of the line of questioning you may

54:21 Speaker 1: receive because nobody will ask these questions next week, which,

54:29 Speaker 1: by the way, we have to wait a whole extra

54:31 Speaker 1: week to hear from management. Yes, know, anybody who would

54:36 Speaker 1: even have maybe the guts to ask a question like

54:39 Speaker 1: this or say what do you mean? You don't know what?

54:43 Speaker 1: Why people are saying this, they would never be allowed

54:46 Speaker 1: back into Katie Garden, you know, Helting.

54:50 Speaker 3: It's insulting to all Bruins fans for him to say

54:55 Speaker 3: that we can't understand or.

54:57 Speaker 1: We can't wrap his head around.

54:59 Speaker 3: Why there would be conversation and anger about the fact

55:04 Speaker 3: that we're letting you are letting this duo, this duo

55:12 Speaker 3: potentially make important and critical decisions because for the first

55:19 Speaker 3: time in a long time, you are actually entering a

55:23 Speaker 3: draft that will have meaning and significance, and you need

55:28 Speaker 3: a bigger sample size from these two than what you've

55:32 Speaker 3: already seen about their drafting capabilities. Please what happened in

55:38 Speaker 3: twenty fifteen, please, sir? His first draft?

55:43 Speaker 1: Okay?

55:44 Speaker 3: And so okay, you see now this is him talking allegedly.

55:50 Speaker 3: This is him speaking talking about now him Charlie talking

55:55 Speaker 3: about how training camp looked, that it was jointed, it

56:01 Speaker 3: was unorganized.

56:03 Speaker 1: They weren't doing this breakout.

56:04 Speaker 12: They weren't Who's who's the owner? What owner talks like that?

56:11 Speaker 12: He's getting that, he's getting that from camp? Is BFF camp.

56:17 Speaker 1: Okay, Look, Cam has him right whereone wants him.

56:22 Speaker 3: He has the Jacob's family there right wrapped around his

56:26 Speaker 3: little finger. Okay, be that as it may. Now, you,

56:31 Speaker 3: mister owner, this is your team. No, this is your team, right?

56:36 Speaker 3: You see this training him that's turning into a potential

56:40 Speaker 3: shit show, And you don't think to have a conversation

56:45 Speaker 3: with your GM or your president saying.

56:48 Speaker 1: What the hell is going on here?

56:50 Speaker 3: Or if the president is seeing this, he doesn't have

56:53 Speaker 3: a conversation. Nobody out of that trio thinks about having

56:58 Speaker 3: a conversation raining in the coaching staff saying what the

57:02 Speaker 3: hell is.

57:02 Speaker 1: Going on here? What is going on here? I mean?

57:06 Speaker 1: Am I crazy?

57:06 Speaker 3: Isn't that the responsibility of a GM is a fact

57:10 Speaker 3: part of his job.

57:12 Speaker 1: The fact that he comes across and I'm sure it

57:15 Speaker 1: will come across exactly the same in a week, like

57:19 Speaker 1: everything is copasetic. Blows my mind. It blows my mind

57:25 Speaker 1: because even if he let's say, Cam has him right

57:32 Speaker 1: where he wants him right, you know he's got him.

57:35 Speaker 1: He can do whatever he wants right because he's Cam Neely,

57:38 Speaker 1: He's he's got his number up there like okay, maybe

57:41 Speaker 1: he's whatever, right, But sir, you gotta have eyeballs. Even

57:50 Speaker 1: if you don't watch any of these games, which I

57:52 Speaker 1: can't imagine that you genuinely actually watch any of these games,

57:56 Speaker 1: but then you have to surely be checking the score sheets.

58:00 Speaker 1: If not for yourself, you're hearing it from the other owners,

58:03 Speaker 1: because I'm sure those o their owners, even though not

58:07 Speaker 1: all of them are sports people there are they know

58:10 Speaker 1: enough if their team is good or not to tease

58:13 Speaker 1: you or whatever. When you all go to Florida, Like,

58:17 Speaker 1: how can you then not look at that and then

58:21 Speaker 1: turn to the two people who are in charge of

58:23 Speaker 1: the product that is on the ice and the people

58:25 Speaker 1: behind the best and not say exactly the words that

58:28 Speaker 1: you just said, which is, what the hell is happening here?

58:31 Speaker 1: You need to fix this or you're done. How is

58:34 Speaker 1: that not a legitimate threat?

58:36 Speaker 3: Because I would like to think that if I'm a

58:39 Speaker 3: general manager and I'm seeing disjointedness or disorganization from my

58:47 Speaker 3: coaching staff during training camp, when I've gone out and

58:52 Speaker 3: I've signed high priced guys to bring them in, I

58:58 Speaker 3: would like to think that I'm having a little sit down.

59:02 Speaker 3: I'm having a little sit down and saying, what the

59:05 Speaker 3: hell are you guys doing here? What is going on here?

59:08 Speaker 3: Do we have a goddamn plan? Because we could all see,

59:13 Speaker 3: we could all see at the start of the season

59:16 Speaker 3: that things did not look bright. The veterans looked out

59:22 Speaker 3: of sink. People who we thought were being tagged to

59:27 Speaker 3: play on lines together had virtually no chemistry whatsoever. Areas

59:35 Speaker 3: that were strength for your team, like your your power play,

59:41 Speaker 3: your penalty kill gone gone?

59:45 Speaker 1: Like whose responsibility was that? This was all?

59:52 Speaker 3: Jim Montgomery's fault because hold on a minute, Hold on

59:57 Speaker 3: a minute. Okay, Jim Montgomery was fired and five minutes

1:00:01 Speaker 3: later was hired by the Saint Louis Blues and they

1:00:05 Speaker 3: are now in the playoffs. So how bad of a

1:00:08 Speaker 3: coach was Jim Montgomery?

1:00:12 Speaker 1: Right? How bad of a coach was Jim Montgomery? And

1:00:17 Speaker 1: and side was a non was a non variable in

1:00:23 Speaker 1: the whole situation because it's almost as if you know

1:00:27 Speaker 1: not to knock his head, coaching abilities whatsoever. But like

1:00:31 Speaker 1: nothing changed, They didn't get worse, they didn't get better,

1:00:34 Speaker 1: They stayed the same. So does that mean like a

1:00:37 Speaker 1: potato could have coached this team just as well? Like

1:00:40 Speaker 1: you you can't do that, mean you.

1:00:42 Speaker 3: Can't you you you can't say that. You can't wrap

1:00:48 Speaker 3: your head around why we would be upset as fans

1:00:51 Speaker 3: saulting because I you you yourself, okay, saw and claim

1:00:58 Speaker 3: you saw the just joint goodness and yet what you

1:01:02 Speaker 3: thought just firing the coach?

1:01:05 Speaker 1: Right?

1:01:05 Speaker 3: This this is the m of this this trio. Okay,

1:01:10 Speaker 3: anything goes wrong, just vire the coach. This is what

1:01:13 Speaker 3: we're going to do.

1:01:14 Speaker 1: Just fire the coach, right, Okay?

1:01:17 Speaker 3: How we started fires? Now we've started firing players and

1:01:22 Speaker 3: shipping off players to what end, To what end we're

1:01:27 Speaker 3: supposed to have faith. We're supposed to have faith that

1:01:33 Speaker 3: this duo who has had now ten years, ten years, and.

1:01:42 Speaker 1: We haven't had a reasonable run in five six, six years,

1:01:50 Speaker 1: six years since we were at a Cup final six years,

1:01:55 Speaker 1: this sixty percent failure rate are yes.

1:01:59 Speaker 3: This season, their record was the worst that it's been

1:02:06 Speaker 3: since nineteen fifty nine. Courtesy of Hockey Reference. Okay, you

1:02:14 Speaker 3: if if the Philadelphia Flyers managed to get one point

1:02:19 Speaker 3: in their game tonight, you will clinch the fourth worst

1:02:24 Speaker 3: record in the league. The Boston freaking Bruins two.

1:02:30 Speaker 1: Years after breaking the league record most wins in a

1:02:35 Speaker 1: single season, and Charlie Jacobs can't understand or wrap his

1:02:40 Speaker 1: head around why. It's mind modeling. It's mind boggling.

1:02:48 Speaker 3: It's so goddamn it's so goddamn frustrating. And when I

1:02:52 Speaker 3: read things from him, I'm incredibly proud to be a Bostonian.

1:02:56 Speaker 1: No, you're not. You're only here because Daddy puts you.

1:03:00 Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, Daddy put you in the seat that you

1:03:05 Speaker 3: are in charge.

1:03:08 Speaker 13: Yeah, Well, in one week's time, we will hear from

1:03:18 Speaker 13: the MENSA brain trust that is Boston Bruins management.

1:03:23 Speaker 1: I'm not optimistic that Joe Socco will be at the

1:03:29 Speaker 1: Helm because he had his media availability today, which if

1:03:33 Speaker 1: you recall in the past it's been the four people

1:03:39 Speaker 1: leading the team and a little bit of his interview.

1:03:47 Speaker 1: I mean, you could read it in a multitude of

1:03:49 Speaker 1: different ways, but it sounds to me like no decisions

1:03:53 Speaker 1: have been made, and that in and of itself tells

1:03:57 Speaker 1: you what probably going to happen, which is he's not

1:04:02 Speaker 1: going to continue on as the head coach, interim or otherwise,

1:04:05 Speaker 1: because if they wanted him, he'd know they they they'd

1:04:11 Speaker 1: have had that conversation, right, They're waiting to see what happens,

1:04:14 Speaker 1: likely with they want to see or they're going to

1:04:16 Speaker 1: wait to see who's available. Correct, correct, They're going to

1:04:20 Speaker 1: wait and see potentially what other teams do who might

1:04:25 Speaker 1: be getting let go.

1:04:28 Speaker 3: And again, I just I just can't get past the

1:04:35 Speaker 3: fact that this ownership had and this man had the balls.

1:04:45 Speaker 3: The balls says he right, right, And I have no tolerance.

1:04:52 Speaker 3: I have no tolerance when anybody in any work environment

1:04:58 Speaker 3: throws the last person who was there under the bus,

1:05:03 Speaker 3: because you know, what any mistake missteps that were made

1:05:08 Speaker 3: were made under your god, damn wat.

1:05:11 Speaker 1: The buck stops with the president of Hockey Ops and

1:05:16 Speaker 1: then really, Charlie.

1:05:18 Speaker 4: Jacobs, right, okay, and if if, if, if there's failure

1:05:24 Speaker 4: to such a degree, such a catastrophic whatever the inverse.

1:05:32 Speaker 1: Is of meteoric failure in such a short period of time.

1:05:41 Speaker 1: I I'm just speechless. I am speechless that someone could

1:05:48 Speaker 1: witness this, who has even an iota of understanding of

1:05:52 Speaker 1: this team to then just say, well, I don't really

1:05:57 Speaker 1: know what's the problem. We're gonna have look at this answers.

1:06:01 Speaker 3: We're not the only ones saying this and referring to

1:06:05 Speaker 3: the Bruins as being in a mess.

1:06:09 Speaker 1: They were a mess.

1:06:10 Speaker 3: When is the last time we heard Bruins and mess

1:06:17 Speaker 3: in the same sentence. Now, it's it's an organizational disaster.

1:06:27 Speaker 1: It started.

1:06:28 Speaker 3: It started with okay, it started with the contract negotiations

1:06:34 Speaker 3: between Jeremy Swayman and let's call a spade of spade

1:06:38 Speaker 3: Cam Neely, Yes, okay, that went off the rails in

1:06:43 Speaker 3: a quick hurry. The player did not do himself any

1:06:47 Speaker 3: good by speaking, and Kim Neely.

1:06:53 Speaker 1: He can speak. It's you I'd never speak what he

1:06:56 Speaker 1: I like, I'm it's an other episode.

1:07:00 Speaker 3: Well, that's another episode. He needs to get his head like.

1:07:05 Speaker 3: Next season, he better he better be ready to play

1:07:12 Speaker 3: lights out because that the fan base. Okay, he's getting

1:07:17 Speaker 3: a pass, he's getting a pass this first Okay, but

1:07:23 Speaker 3: next season, dude, you better be playing lights out or

1:07:28 Speaker 3: this fan base will turn on you, just like we're

1:07:33 Speaker 3: turning on.

1:07:36 Speaker 1: Jacob's Neely. Okay, Look, we got a vacancy. We don't

1:07:40 Speaker 1: have a mac Rislick anymore, we don't have a Trent Frederick.

1:07:44 Speaker 1: There's a vacancy for villain on this team. He could

1:07:50 Speaker 1: be it. He could be it.

1:07:51 Speaker 3: I don't want him to be it. No, I don't

1:07:54 Speaker 3: want him to be it, but he was. He was

1:07:57 Speaker 3: a part of the problem. Well he's not the only problem,

1:08:03 Speaker 3: but he was a part and he has.

1:08:05 Speaker 1: To understand justified or not. It doesn't ever have to

1:08:09 Speaker 1: be justified to be labeled the villain. I mean, look

1:08:11 Speaker 1: at Tukarask, the winning ast goalie in franchise history, and

1:08:17 Speaker 1: how quickly the city would turn on him in any game.

1:08:22 Speaker 1: You know, we constantly turning on him. He was the villain.

1:08:28 Speaker 3: Yeah, well right now, we have our three villains right now,

1:08:33 Speaker 3: focus on them. It's just it's just I would just

1:08:40 Speaker 3: not even rather hear you, right, if that's the kind

1:08:44 Speaker 3: of stuff you're going to say.

1:08:46 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a slap in the face to fans.

1:08:50 Speaker 3: You put out a ship product all season one. Nobody

1:08:56 Speaker 3: likes this, ok, and and you reward fans and seasoned

1:09:01 Speaker 3: ticket holders by once again increasing forget good prices and

1:09:07 Speaker 3: you want me, you want me to buy in to

1:09:10 Speaker 3: the to the bullshit that you're shoveling. Yeah, no, I'm good, No,

1:09:16 Speaker 3: I'm good.

1:09:16 Speaker 1: No, no, thank you. No. Well, we shall know in

1:09:21 Speaker 1: a week. Like I said, it should give me time

1:09:27 Speaker 1: to either get more mad or cool off. I can't

1:09:30 Speaker 1: tell yet because I'm pretty mad right now. Thank you, Maria.

1:09:33 Speaker 1: Very stimulating. Come you you you teed me up.

1:09:37 Speaker 3: You told me you wanted to tee me up, I

1:09:40 Speaker 3: sir did, I sure did, and you got me teed out.

1:09:43 Speaker 3: And I sound like a lunatic, not at all, But

1:09:47 Speaker 3: I'm just like I cannot tolerate when someone is trying

1:09:54 Speaker 3: to insult our intelligence.

1:09:57 Speaker 1: M h. Yeah. Well, with that being said, we will

1:10:04 Speaker 1: still have weekly episodes throughout the summer. Join us will

1:10:09 Speaker 1: be of course going live at the start of our

1:10:14 Speaker 1: new year, which is July first. If there are any trades,

1:10:18 Speaker 1: any significant things, we might have a live in that instance,

1:10:24 Speaker 1: but otherwise, you know, we'll have plenty to talk about

1:10:27 Speaker 1: over the summer, from trades, free agency signings, and just

1:10:32 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of other really interesting little tidbits and

1:10:35 Speaker 1: player reviews as we get closer. So your home for

1:10:40 Speaker 1: Boston Bruins news and interesting things is still around for

1:10:44 Speaker 1: the summer. But with that, any other final words, Maria.

1:10:53 Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to watching some good NHL playoff hockey

1:11:01 Speaker 3: absolutely and I'm telling you right now I am going

1:11:06 Speaker 3: to root for the Florida Panthers. You are, yep, only

1:11:12 Speaker 3: because I want to stick this.

1:11:18 Speaker 1: Well if it comes to it, and I have to.

1:11:21 Speaker 3: I know, I know it's difficult for you. I'm an

1:11:25 Speaker 3: addictive you know what, and.

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