Out of Touch Bruins Management Team Insults Fans | Ep. 86

0:01 Speaker 1: Can you start a podcast with me?

0:02 Speaker 2: Please?

0:04 Speaker 3: I need something to do.

0:13 Speaker 1: A track, send it out a trough by, say, here's

0:20 Speaker 1: a chance pot right on the goalie spark, Oh my,

0:23 Speaker 1: what a move by the rookie to one poster, Masha

0:27 Speaker 1: getting toucht the zone, oil dances in badcast?

0:32 Speaker 4: Wait right, water is there?

0:40 Speaker 5: What is?

0:51 Speaker 6: And speaking of Cam and Don, I'm proud to sit

0:54 Speaker 6: alongside these two gentlemen because I know we've got the

0:58 Speaker 6: right people in the right heats on the bus to

1:01 Speaker 6: bring this franchise back to glory. Now, let me be clear,

1:07 Speaker 6: the results from last season are absolutely unacceptable and accountability

1:13 Speaker 6: has never been higher. However, I need to tell you

1:18 Speaker 6: that when deciding what is best for the long term

1:21 Speaker 6: success of this franchise, we have to be pragmatic and

1:26 Speaker 6: used data driven decisions.

1:33 Speaker 7: Welcome in everyone to Bruin's Tape to Tape. I will

1:38 Speaker 7: be your host this evening. We are recording on Thursday,

1:42 Speaker 7: April twenty fourth, the day after the Bruins season ending presser.

1:48 Speaker 7: As you can see from the clip that has led

1:53 Speaker 7: in as an intro to tonight's episode, we are going

1:56 Speaker 7: to be spending the vast majority of our time talk

2:00 Speaker 7: about said season ending press conference among the Bruins' brain trust.

2:06 Speaker 7: But before we start tearing into our fearless leaders and

2:12 Speaker 7: management team, I want to welcome in my co host Caroline.

2:17 Speaker 3: And I know, Caroline, you are.

2:20 Speaker 7: Pretty fired up as I am fired up, and so

2:25 Speaker 7: you know we'll exchange our pleasantries.

2:30 Speaker 3: Hi, Maria, Hi, I was so hot under the collar

2:35 Speaker 3: after watching yesterday Full Disclosure. I got about three quarters

2:42 Speaker 3: of the way through that presser and I had to

2:43 Speaker 3: turn it off and discussed after a couple of key

2:49 Speaker 3: really not awesome comments and quotes from Charlie Jacobs, because

2:56 Speaker 3: the fastest way to piss off a data analyst to

3:00 Speaker 3: claim that you make data driven decisions and use the

3:05 Speaker 3: worst possible data, the wrong data to make your decisions.

3:10 Speaker 7: Like, well, we'll, we'll get We are going to get

3:12 Speaker 7: to all of it because I got my data right here.

3:15 Speaker 7: We got some data for you right here, the old

3:17 Speaker 7: fashioned way, your buffoon. But before we get going, we

3:22 Speaker 7: are going to do our you know, typical spin around

3:27 Speaker 7: the rink, because the playoffs have started in earnest, and

3:30 Speaker 7: I'm sure that many of our listeners, if not all

3:34 Speaker 7: of them, have been checking NHL dot com or even

3:39 Speaker 7: watching the games, but we'll very quickly take a quick

3:45 Speaker 7: spin through through the bracket here with the fact that

3:49 Speaker 7: you know, Winnipeg is currently up to nothing on the

3:52 Speaker 7: Saint Louis Blues. The Dallas Stars are up to games

3:58 Speaker 7: to one on Colorado. Very interestingly, Vegas and Minnesota tied

4:04 Speaker 7: at one one game a piece. La Kings are up

4:09 Speaker 7: to zip on the Edmonton Oilers, and that's prompted some

4:14 Speaker 7: lineup changes on the part of the Edmonton Oilers. Toronto

4:20 Speaker 7: up to to nothing on Ottawa. I was hoping that

4:24 Speaker 7: it would be a bit more of a series, but

4:27 Speaker 7: Ottawa is is a young team. You know, maybe things

4:32 Speaker 7: will change when they get back home to Ottawa. And

4:37 Speaker 7: my team, my adopted team, the Florida Panthers, have a

4:41 Speaker 7: one zip lead, one game to none lead on the

4:45 Speaker 7: Tampa Bay Lightning and they are currently playing as we speak.

4:50 Speaker 7: Before we started recording, Florida, I believe had a one

4:54 Speaker 7: to nothing lead in that game, but I have not

4:57 Speaker 7: since checked the score.

5:00 Speaker 3: Washington Montreal.

5:02 Speaker 7: Washington's up two games to none, but I will say

5:06 Speaker 7: that has been fun hockey to watch. It's pretty intense,

5:14 Speaker 7: pretty fast, and Montreal has unfortunately from Montreal and stop

5:20 Speaker 7: me Bruins fans if you've heard this before, but unfortunately

5:24 Speaker 7: Montreal only has one line that can score, so I

5:27 Speaker 7: don't know how they're going to sustain themselves in this

5:32 Speaker 7: series against the Capitals. And probably the series that I'm

5:38 Speaker 7: the least interested in for whatever reason is Carolina and

5:44 Speaker 7: the Devils, and Carolina is up two games to none.

5:48 Speaker 3: Yeah.

5:50 Speaker 7: So, and you know, the thing of note for me

5:54 Speaker 7: with regard to the playoffs is Gabriel Landeskog his debut

6:02 Speaker 7: last night, first game that he has played since what

6:07 Speaker 7: did my notes say, June twenty June of twenty twenty two,

6:15 Speaker 7: and I think he logged thirteen a little over thirteen

6:19 Speaker 7: minutes of ice time. Yep, six hits, So good on him,

6:26 Speaker 7: Good on him. So unfortunately they lost the game in overtime.

6:30 Speaker 7: Old pal, well Pal Tyler Sagan scored overtime. But yeah, still,

6:38 Speaker 7: you know, it's been it's been a long road.

6:40 Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know, I think from what I've seen online,

6:46 Speaker 3: a lot of folks who are new hockey fans, maybe

6:50 Speaker 3: we're a little bit surprised at how little ice time

6:52 Speaker 3: he played. But he was on the third line, so

6:56 Speaker 3: considering third line, and you know, the number of minutes

7:02 Speaker 3: that he put in not out of the ordinary, shabby

7:05 Speaker 3: or I'm not too shabby. No, so diving right in,

7:09 Speaker 3: you know, I mean he's got a and he I

7:10 Speaker 3: didn't see me rust at all. He seemed sharp. He

7:15 Speaker 3: laid out some pretty big hits pretty much right away.

7:18 Speaker 3: So that was really cool to see, you know, so

7:20 Speaker 3: good for him. My favorite stat about his return is

7:26 Speaker 3: the fact that he's smack dab in the middle of

7:29 Speaker 3: the record for the longest absence from the game, and

7:34 Speaker 3: the two guys on either side of him were out

7:38 Speaker 3: of the league for as long as they were because

7:40 Speaker 3: they went to war in the nineteen forties, so he's

7:47 Speaker 3: very unique in that regard, right, And I gotta agree.

7:52 Speaker 3: You know, I've been watching a little smattering here and there.

7:57 Speaker 3: You know, it's been kind of APUs of hockey for me.

8:03 Speaker 3: It's a little bit unusual obviously, not feeling obligated to

8:07 Speaker 3: sit and watch and just have my mental health right,

8:10 Speaker 3: like hanging on a single game so I can bounce

8:15 Speaker 3: from game to game. I'm not overly exhausted after one game,

8:20 Speaker 3: so then you know, I can hop around and if

8:22 Speaker 3: it gets boring, I can go to bed, you know,

8:26 Speaker 3: or and I don't feel bad because I rely on

8:29 Speaker 3: the Discord. We've got so many big hockey fans in general,

8:32 Speaker 3: you know, special shout out zones too, so yeah, so

8:38 Speaker 3: special shout out and thank you to to to friends

8:41 Speaker 3: of the Pod and Discord members Jesse and Grant because

8:44 Speaker 3: just think Grant right, Grant is in our central time zone,

8:50 Speaker 3: but Jesse's on the East Coast, and between the two

8:53 Speaker 3: of them, they are keeping us apprized. I get the

8:57 Speaker 3: best highlights and news from them. So again, I strongly

9:01 Speaker 3: encourage everyone to join in on the Discord if you

9:04 Speaker 3: want some good, uh late night updates on some of

9:07 Speaker 3: these games. But Andy and I love it. Welcome.

9:09 Speaker 7: Yeah, and there's nice there's some nice banter, and it's

9:12 Speaker 7: not as you know, we find ourselves in very unfamiliar

9:15 Speaker 7: territory this year with the Bruins not being in the playoffs.

9:19 Speaker 3: So the banter is is.

9:24 Speaker 7: Is light and enjoyable where we're not you know, we're

9:27 Speaker 7: not uh being overly critical of of our own of

9:32 Speaker 7: our own team, but still not the same. I wish

9:36 Speaker 7: we had a dog in the fight, but unfortunately we

9:39 Speaker 7: don't have a dog in the fight, and and and

9:42 Speaker 7: we after after what I heard on Wednesday, I'm not sure.

9:47 Speaker 7: I'm not sure when we will have a dog in

9:49 Speaker 7: the fight again. But we'll we'll get we'll get to

9:52 Speaker 7: all that. The other big piece of news this week

9:56 Speaker 7: was the p w h L announced that they are

10:01 Speaker 7: expanding and they will now have a team in Vancouver,

10:05 Speaker 7: which is awesome, awesome, awesome. Vancouver is a hockey hotbed.

10:10 Speaker 7: It's a great city from everything that I've heard, and

10:15 Speaker 7: I do believe that they have already sold out on

10:21 Speaker 7: what is referred to as premium memberships, so hot off

10:27 Speaker 7: the presses, so good, good for them, good for the league,

10:31 Speaker 7: good for you know, the women of hockey. And hopefully

10:34 Speaker 7: this will lead to other expansion teams to grow, to

10:39 Speaker 7: grow the game.

10:41 Speaker 3: And there's going to be a second team announced a

10:44 Speaker 3: little bit later on. That has not been finalized yet,

10:47 Speaker 3: but presumably by the summer. We will hear about that

10:50 Speaker 3: second expansion team, because they like to keep it even.

10:54 Speaker 3: Speculation is Midwest, maybe Saint Louis, maybe Chicago, so it

10:58 Speaker 3: should be interesting to see where they end up landing there.

11:02 Speaker 7: Awesome, so good, yeah, good, good for them, It's great,

11:05 Speaker 7: great for the great for the women of hockey and

11:08 Speaker 7: the girls of hockey in the future of hockey in general.

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11:17 Speaker 7: and then when we come back, we are going to

11:21 Speaker 7: dive right in to that season ending Bruins press conference.

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13:49 Speaker 7: All right, folks, welcome back in. And as many of

13:54 Speaker 7: you likely know, likely listened to, maybe even watched or

14:00 Speaker 7: you know, followed the clips on social media, the Bruins

14:03 Speaker 7: held their customary end of the season press conference this year.

14:09 Speaker 7: It was held a little bit earlier then it's been

14:12 Speaker 7: held in the past, and it took place on Wednesday

14:16 Speaker 7: at about ten thirty am Eastern Standard time, and it

14:21 Speaker 7: went for pretty much a full hour. And I want

14:28 Speaker 7: to say to the Boston media and the writers that

14:32 Speaker 7: cover the team, job well done. Because the Blue writers

14:38 Speaker 7: that cover a lot of the local teams here in

14:42 Speaker 7: Boston where I live, have been you know, accused in

14:48 Speaker 7: the past of you know, carrying the water buckets for

14:51 Speaker 7: the teams that they cover, right, and to some degree

14:54 Speaker 7: I understand, I understand why because they are given access

15:00 Speaker 7: stability to players, coaches, they're in the locker room and

15:05 Speaker 7: they want to maintain some semblance of a good working relationship, so.

15:14 Speaker 3: They get criticized for not asking the tough questions.

15:19 Speaker 7: But in this instance on Wednesday, I don't know what

15:23 Speaker 7: cam thought or Charlie or Donnie thought they were walking into,

15:30 Speaker 7: but they did not walk into friendly fire on Wednesday.

15:35 Speaker 7: And here is one thing that I learned, well, two

15:38 Speaker 7: things that I learned pretty clearly on Wednesday, because I

15:42 Speaker 7: watched it live. I learned that it's not Charlie Jacobs,

15:47 Speaker 7: nor is it don Sweeney that runs the Boston Bruins.

15:52 Speaker 7: It is Cam Neely, and cam Neely tells Charlie Jacobs

15:59 Speaker 7: what to say, how to say it, and when to

16:02 Speaker 7: say it. Because that owner, that owner looked like every

16:09 Speaker 7: time he was asked a question that he was going

16:12 Speaker 7: to crap his pants.

16:14 Speaker 3: Oh my god, it was it.

16:17 Speaker 7: It was awful. And we'll get to some of the

16:20 Speaker 7: other out of touch things that he said. That once

16:27 Speaker 7: again is insulting to the fan base, and once again

16:33 Speaker 7: corroborates in my mind what I have known for many years.

16:38 Speaker 7: The Jacob's family does not care about its fans. They

16:45 Speaker 7: don't folks, and the only way that we can get

16:51 Speaker 7: a message through to them that we're fed up with

16:56 Speaker 7: their tone deafness is to stop spending freaking money to

17:02 Speaker 7: go into that building.

17:04 Speaker 3: We'll get to that.

17:06 Speaker 7: The other thing that I believe that I learned after

17:09 Speaker 7: listening to Cam and Don is I'm not sure we're

17:14 Speaker 7: getting back to the promised slam anytime soon.

17:19 Speaker 3: Mm hmmm.

17:20 Speaker 7: And I know you have some strong thoughts and opinions,

17:25 Speaker 7: so and I spent enough time on our podcast ranting

17:28 Speaker 7: and raving, So I'm going to give you the floor

17:32 Speaker 7: this week.

17:33 Speaker 3: It's my turn to be good. It is your turn

17:36 Speaker 3: giled go girl. So okay, Like I said, the fastest

17:42 Speaker 3: way to anger a data analyst is to again claim

17:47 Speaker 3: that you make data driven decisions, uh, and then use

17:51 Speaker 3: the completely wrong data to make your point. So if

17:56 Speaker 3: you listen, we didn't play the entire clip, but if

17:59 Speaker 3: you listened to just the opening statement, all three people,

18:04 Speaker 3: because I don't want to call them gentlemen, all three

18:06 Speaker 3: idiots sat up there and had opening statements, and Charlie

18:11 Speaker 3: Jacobs had the audacity to say that they were data

18:14 Speaker 3: driven in their decisions. Moving forward for sustained success with

18:18 Speaker 3: Cam and Don, why he said because during their tenure

18:23 Speaker 3: they had the best win record in that time, and

18:27 Speaker 3: that they made the playoffs eight years in a row.

18:29 Speaker 3: I'm literally quoting my notes because it literally pissed me

18:32 Speaker 3: off so much. And I got to tell you, I

18:34 Speaker 3: am not a person who takes notes and meetings because

18:37 Speaker 3: usually there's nothing important enough that I ever actually have

18:40 Speaker 3: to write down. But this angered me so much.

18:42 Speaker 7: Now let me tell you that I think our notes overlap. Wait,

18:46 Speaker 7: can I ask you a question? Was this before or

18:50 Speaker 7: after the three of them all got done patting themselves

18:54 Speaker 7: on the back, and you know, Charlie wants again using

19:00 Speaker 7: the words embarrassment.

19:03 Speaker 3: Yeah, we embrace the criticism.

19:06 Speaker 7: Results are unacceptable accountability because judging from the way you

19:12 Speaker 7: all responded to some questions, you don't embrace noticism because

19:18 Speaker 7: you all acted like you were butt hurt. Yeah, when

19:23 Speaker 7: you were asked pointed direct questions.

19:25 Speaker 3: One thousand percent. And let me tell you one of

19:29 Speaker 3: the most this is a complete sidebar, but it is

19:31 Speaker 3: related one of the most random accounts on social media

19:34 Speaker 3: that I follow, Molly McPherson. She is actually in crisis

19:38 Speaker 3: pr and so I've listened to her kind of deconstruct

19:42 Speaker 3: you know whenever there's been a celebrity who kind of

19:45 Speaker 3: is in the crossfire and when they do or do

19:47 Speaker 3: not do a good job of responding. Crisis PR is

19:52 Speaker 3: a thing. PR is a thing. Charlie Jacobs should have

19:56 Speaker 3: been prepared someone, as I had suspected a few months ago.

20:04 Speaker 3: I think that the people around him are not being

20:09 Speaker 3: honest with him, probably in an effort to maintain their

20:12 Speaker 3: own jobs. Cam Neely number one, so he didn't probably

20:18 Speaker 3: even know that he needed to have a crisis PR

20:21 Speaker 3: team to prepare him for some pretty basic expected questions,

20:27 Speaker 3: which we will get to. But first and foremost, I

20:30 Speaker 3: would like to bring forth the following data points. Now

20:33 Speaker 3: Here is more evidence that we and we talked about

20:36 Speaker 3: this last week and probably a lot in our discord

20:39 Speaker 3: where we've said time and time again that Charlie Jacobs

20:44 Speaker 3: is playing or cosplaying as a hockey fan. The man

20:49 Speaker 3: clearly does not know and understand what is actually important

20:53 Speaker 3: to a hockey team, to a hockey player who plays

20:56 Speaker 3: in the National Hockey League, because, let me tell.

20:58 Speaker 7: You, knows what Cam tells him, He knows what K

21:00 Speaker 7: tells him.

21:02 Speaker 3: Because what Cam tells him, he tells him to keep

21:04 Speaker 3: his damn job, because Camret knows that what he is

21:08 Speaker 3: telling him is wrong. Because I know it doesn't matter

21:11 Speaker 3: if you played in nineteen forty five, if you played

21:14 Speaker 3: in nineteen seventy nine, or if you played in twenty

21:17 Speaker 3: twenty five. Wind percentage means jack shit. At the end

21:24 Speaker 3: of the day. What is the number one most important

21:29 Speaker 3: priority to every single hockey player in the National Hockey League, Maria?

21:34 Speaker 3: What is the number one thing? Why do they lace

21:36 Speaker 3: up those.

21:36 Speaker 7: Skates eighty two games a year.

21:39 Speaker 3: They want to win the goddamn Cup. They want to

21:44 Speaker 3: win the Cup. So it doesn't matter if they had

21:48 Speaker 3: an eighty five percent win percentage over the last ten years.

21:53 Speaker 3: Because I will tell you this is the following what rounds.

21:58 Speaker 3: The Boston Bruins have exited the playoffs for over ten years.

22:03 Speaker 3: Obviously in twenty twenty five, we did not make the playoffs.

22:07 Speaker 3: In twenty twenty four, second round exit, twenty twenty three,

22:11 Speaker 3: first round exit, twenty twenty two, first round exit, twenty

22:14 Speaker 3: twenty one, second round exit twenty twenty, second round exit

22:19 Speaker 3: twenty nineteen, Cup Final twenty eighteen, second round exit twenty seventeen,

22:25 Speaker 3: first round exit twenty sixteen, didn't make the playoffs twenty fifteen,

22:29 Speaker 3: didn't make the playoffs twenty fourteen, second round exit, twenty thirteen,

22:35 Speaker 3: Cup Final, twenty twelve, first round exit. Does that sound

22:40 Speaker 3: like a dynasty, successful team fighting for the Cup year

22:46 Speaker 3: in and year out to you with a first round exit, one, two, three,

22:52 Speaker 3: four times in that tenure, No, it does not.

22:57 Speaker 7: It does not yet yet I want you to believe

23:01 Speaker 7: because their resume is impeccable.

23:05 Speaker 3: Okay, because their resume is so impeccable. And what what

23:10 Speaker 3: did Kim? What did Charlie refer to.

23:14 Speaker 7: Don Sweeney as some type of a pioneer or no,

23:19 Speaker 7: my god, because we don't Okay, newsflash, Charlie, I don't

23:25 Speaker 7: give a shit what Don Neely does outside the scope

23:31 Speaker 7: of what he's supposed to be doing.

23:33 Speaker 3: Stop talking about the general manager, Stop talking about the Olympics.

23:37 Speaker 3: Correct because at the end of the day, once again,

23:40 Speaker 3: the number one priority for any player in the National

23:44 Speaker 3: Hockey League is to win a Stanley Cup. I don't care,

23:49 Speaker 3: and I can tell you that. Yeah, they want to

23:52 Speaker 3: win a gold medal. Of course, it is a fantastic

23:57 Speaker 3: experience for UH patriotic pride. But I don't care, and

24:04 Speaker 3: I can tell you, every other Bruins fan in the

24:08 Speaker 3: world knows that the number one priority, every hockey fan

24:12 Speaker 3: knows that their number one priority for their team is

24:15 Speaker 3: to win a Stanley Cup. Do you think I mean

24:19 Speaker 3: for crying out loud, look at the idiot Maple Leafs.

24:23 Speaker 3: You think that they are happy they've made the playoffs

24:26 Speaker 3: for the and exited in the first round with the

24:29 Speaker 3: exception of one season for years, this is the first

24:33 Speaker 3: time that they've ever won the Atlantic Division. But are

24:37 Speaker 3: they proud of that fact? No, because they have not

24:40 Speaker 3: won a Cup since the nineteen sixties. So nobody cares

24:45 Speaker 3: what your win record was or how many years in

24:47 Speaker 3: a row you make the playoffs. So get your head

24:50 Speaker 3: out of your ass and actually learn and understand what

24:53 Speaker 3: is important in the game of hockey. And don't listen

24:55 Speaker 3: to cam Neely because he is clearly lying to you.

24:58 Speaker 3: Because I know for sure, as the day starts tomorrow

25:03 Speaker 3: in the morning, he knows that the number one thing

25:07 Speaker 3: that he never got, that he woke up every day

25:10 Speaker 3: and tried to win, was the Stanley Cup. It doesn't

25:14 Speaker 3: matter that pissed me off, and that was within the

25:17 Speaker 3: first five minutes I knew, Oh my God, this is

25:19 Speaker 3: the kind of conference is going to be alright, it

25:22 Speaker 3: just you know, it's just.

25:26 Speaker 7: Oh he referred to Don Sweeney. Excuse me, I wrote

25:29 Speaker 7: it down as an industry leader. Those were Charlie Jacob's words. Now, okay, listen,

25:36 Speaker 7: we're not calling for anybody to be fired here.

25:40 Speaker 3: I am fire the ball.

25:42 Speaker 7: Okay, But how many times do you give the same

25:50 Speaker 7: group an op kicks at the can at the proverbial

25:55 Speaker 7: can when you keep firing coaches, When you keep firing coaches,

26:02 Speaker 7: now you've fractured or done damage.

26:09 Speaker 3: To the leadership in your room.

26:12 Speaker 7: I don't know if the culture in that room has changed,

26:17 Speaker 7: but to me it's very telling that a day later,

26:22 Speaker 7: or yeah, was it a day later, we hear that

26:26 Speaker 7: Sedano Charis role is going to be to help develop

26:31 Speaker 7: a winning culture.

26:33 Speaker 3: Again, something happened, Yes, because you fired everybody who ever

26:38 Speaker 3: played with him, who knew the culture, you idiots. So

26:42 Speaker 3: that's a perfect segue you're talking about these coaches. Here's

26:45 Speaker 3: the other thing that I think Charlie Jacobs should be

26:49 Speaker 3: incredibly embarrassed that he even uttered these words, that he

26:53 Speaker 3: had the audacity as someone who is an employer to

26:57 Speaker 3: utter the fact, and I'm going to play the clip

27:01 Speaker 3: because you have to hear it. The fact that the

27:04 Speaker 3: man could not say for certain the exact number of

27:08 Speaker 3: coaches that he has hired and fired in the last

27:12 Speaker 3: ten years, and that he could not name them all.

27:16 Speaker 7: That he could not name them all, You, sir, should

27:19 Speaker 7: be embarrassed.

27:20 Speaker 3: You are a joke. You should not be near a

27:23 Speaker 3: hockey team whatsoever. And then it leads into our favorite word, accountability. Accountability.

27:30 Speaker 2: Can you associated press, Charlie all those wins that you

27:33 Speaker 2: refer to under Don's tenure? That same thing could also

27:35 Speaker 2: be said with a couple of coaches who are currently

27:38 Speaker 2: in the playoffs with other teams. Why were they held

27:40 Speaker 2: accountable in one way when these two are being held

27:43 Speaker 2: accountable in a different way.

27:48 Speaker 6: Well, I just want to there's been a narrative that

27:51 Speaker 6: I think should we should address, and I believe there

27:58 Speaker 6: have been three head coaches of the Austin Bruins over

28:01 Speaker 6: the past I'm going to say ten more than like

28:04 Speaker 6: fifteen years when you co Claude Sweets just mentioned and

28:10 Speaker 6: we hired Bruce Cassidy for Providence and he coached down

28:14 Speaker 6: there and then came up and coached us at the

28:17 Speaker 6: Boston Bruins for some time. I think the life, the

28:21 Speaker 6: shelf life of a head coach is significantly shorter than

28:26 Speaker 6: one of a general manager or a team press that

28:29 Speaker 6: it's the nature of the beast of the job. You

28:33 Speaker 6: can have players attention for a select window of time

28:37 Speaker 6: and then some unfortunately, sometimes you lose it. It's our

28:44 Speaker 6: it's Don's it's Don's job to make sure that he's

28:47 Speaker 6: got his hand on the pulse of whether or not

28:50 Speaker 6: the players have tuned him out the head coach, and

28:54 Speaker 6: I feel he's done a pretty good job of measuring that.

29:02 Speaker 3: You think there were three coaches you think you mean

29:08 Speaker 3: to tell me, Charlie Jacobs that you cannot definitively say

29:12 Speaker 3: Claude Julienne, Bruce Cassidy, Jim Montgomery, Joe Sacho four you

29:21 Speaker 3: should know and let me tell you this as well,

29:24 Speaker 3: because this is breaking news. I mean, maybe earlier this

29:27 Speaker 3: week in case he didn't hear. Guess what gms can

29:30 Speaker 3: get fired because lou La Morello is out from the

29:33 Speaker 3: New York Islanders. He was there from twenty eighteen. So yeah,

29:38 Speaker 3: sometimes when your team really sucks, the GM can go

29:42 Speaker 3: and the coach stays yeah, the.

29:48 Speaker 7: Verbiage. The verbiage sucked, like it absolutely sucked. And you

29:53 Speaker 7: know what I'd like to also point out to Charlie Now,

29:57 Speaker 7: you said it was Don Sweeney's job to recognize when

30:01 Speaker 7: a coach has tuned things out. All right, the players

30:05 Speaker 7: have tuned them. Now things aren't going well yet. Charlie

30:09 Speaker 7: Jacobs himself sat down with a writer from the Boston

30:14 Speaker 7: Globe just a week ago, saying that he saw signs

30:21 Speaker 7: of trouble in training camp.

30:23 Speaker 3: He the owner. Yet, what did you do about it?

30:30 Speaker 3: What did you do about it?

30:32 Speaker 5: Right? What?

30:33 Speaker 7: So you just you just let that.

30:35 Speaker 3: Shit show continue?

30:37 Speaker 7: Right?

30:37 Speaker 3: You didn't? Did you go and say to your general manager,

30:42 Speaker 3: what the hell is going on here? Yet?

30:43 Speaker 7: I'm not seeing any structure, any organization. They're also full

30:47 Speaker 7: of shit. They are all so full of shit, and

30:54 Speaker 7: it is maddening to me that they don't think that

30:58 Speaker 7: we pay close enough attention when we see them talking

31:04 Speaker 7: out of both sides of their.

31:07 Speaker 3: Asses one hundred percent. It's beyond infuriating because you start

31:15 Speaker 3: this press conference talking about accountability, and yet here you

31:19 Speaker 3: are correct blaming coaches. Correct, we're no longer employed, Still

31:24 Speaker 3: blaming coaches, still blaming coaches. So who lost the room?

31:30 Speaker 7: Was it Bruce?

31:31 Speaker 3: Was it Jim? They never talked about Jim. That was like,

31:35 Speaker 3: you don't talk about Jim, like he's dead to them.

31:39 Speaker 3: I don't know what the hell was going on there,

31:42 Speaker 3: because when they talked about, you know, the head coach

31:45 Speaker 3: search process and all this stuff, and I think Don

31:48 Speaker 3: Sweeney even went on to say, like, well, I've only

31:50 Speaker 3: really been involved with one head one head coach hiring

31:54 Speaker 3: and you know, and then we had Bruce come up

31:58 Speaker 3: as driving.

32:00 Speaker 7: Because he was an assistant GM when these guys were

32:03 Speaker 7: fucking hoigh you were involved with, right, you are still

32:08 Speaker 7: I'll still have.

32:08 Speaker 3: Heard of it, like maybe you're bad, maybe you're bad

32:13 Speaker 3: at picking head coaches, Like yes, okay, I don't disagree

32:18 Speaker 3: in theory with the idea that the shelf life of

32:22 Speaker 3: a coach is likely shorter than a GM, right, because

32:26 Speaker 3: a GM and a president have to have a a

32:31 Speaker 3: thirty five thousand foot view of everything, right, so they

32:35 Speaker 3: have to be there for a little bit longer to

32:38 Speaker 3: make things happen and to affect change. Right, But how

32:42 Speaker 3: many coaches does it take to the point where you

32:45 Speaker 3: think there's something wrong not with the coat all those

32:49 Speaker 3: coaches were bad. All of those coaches lost the room.

32:53 Speaker 3: All of those coaches had the players stop listening to them.

32:56 Speaker 3: That's what they want. Maybe you're taking bad they want us,

33:00 Speaker 3: that's what they want us to be. Leave one or

33:04 Speaker 3: two coaches okay in ten years, yeah, three or four

33:10 Speaker 3: in short succession. That may right raises eyebrows.

33:16 Speaker 7: And that leads me to the question to the and again,

33:21 Speaker 7: God bless the writers that were in that room and

33:25 Speaker 7: the people that covered I.

33:27 Speaker 3: I can't say drop.

33:30 Speaker 7: And I'm not a fan of Kevin Paul DuPont, but

33:33 Speaker 7: I even have to give him some flowers for the

33:37 Speaker 7: questions that he asked.

33:39 Speaker 3: But when there was a question posed by Tara Fitzgerald

33:45 Speaker 3: directly to Don about the coaching process, because Don did acknowledge,

33:52 Speaker 3: that was the one, the one fact that we got

33:57 Speaker 3: out of this that.

33:58 Speaker 7: There is going to be a coaching cirt He's had

34:00 Speaker 7: a conversation already with Joe Sache, but there is going

34:03 Speaker 7: to be a coaching search.

34:04 Speaker 3: And let me tell you something. I if I'm a

34:09 Speaker 3: member of the Bruins coaching staff right now, I might

34:13 Speaker 3: be polishing up my resume.

34:14 Speaker 7: Oh they damn well better be they you should be

34:17 Speaker 7: polishing up yoursme. But Tarah asked Don Sweeney, do you

34:22 Speaker 7: have any concern or any worry about how this how

34:29 Speaker 7: coaches coaches who are available may perceive being a coach

34:37 Speaker 7: here based on the fact that you have let go

34:40 Speaker 7: of three very good coaches in a short period of time.

34:46 Speaker 7: And he Don got very snarky with Tara, very snarky

34:53 Speaker 7: with Tara, and I'm paraphrasing, but his response was basically, well,

34:59 Speaker 7: I'll let you know. If anybody you know decides not

35:03 Speaker 7: to come and interview for one of the most historic

35:05 Speaker 7: jobs in the league, go f yourself, Donnie. Okay, yeah,

35:09 Speaker 7: So he he I think recognized that he was a

35:15 Speaker 7: snarky asshole and then gave a little bit more tempered

35:21 Speaker 7: response to that. But it's a fair question. It's one

35:24 Speaker 7: It's a question that we've talked about on our podcast.

35:27 Speaker 7: If you have seen what has gone on here right

35:32 Speaker 7: with you know, letting go of good, solid coaches who,

35:36 Speaker 7: by the way, go on to have success someplace else, right,

35:41 Speaker 7: wouldn't you be concerned, particularly in this last instance with

35:45 Speaker 7: Jim Montgomery, where he literally wasn't able.

35:50 Speaker 3: To choose his own coaches yeah, yeah, I mean if

35:56 Speaker 3: I was, I mean I've I've had that experience as

35:59 Speaker 3: a person who has applied to jobs and searched. It

36:03 Speaker 3: might have been a part of the job search process

36:06 Speaker 3: where you find out, oh, your last person quit after

36:11 Speaker 3: three months. That's not good. That's not good. And you know,

36:17 Speaker 3: just because these three are living in La La Land

36:21 Speaker 3: doesn't mean that all the other eligible coaches. And this

36:26 Speaker 3: goes also to to to players. You know, we talked

36:30 Speaker 3: about that a little bit last week, where the players

36:32 Speaker 3: are being asked like do we need to convince people

36:34 Speaker 3: to come here? And it's like, obviously they were tiptoeing

36:38 Speaker 3: around it, but they all talk amongst themselves too. They're

36:41 Speaker 3: not going to them, to their friends and to their peers.

36:45 Speaker 3: You know, you throw away the most important parts of

36:49 Speaker 3: your team, that means anyone can get thrown away, you know.

36:53 Speaker 3: So that's just I will say, this is probably one

36:57 Speaker 3: of the very few times you will hear me be

37:00 Speaker 3: complimentary to Don Sweeney, although in when he's sitting next

37:05 Speaker 3: to those two other idiots, I typically am nicer to

37:09 Speaker 3: him because he was more competent, he did speak more,

37:13 Speaker 3: he was more thoughtful. I think he handles the media

37:16 Speaker 3: generally better and I will agree with you in general, yes,

37:22 Speaker 3: he does better handling.

37:24 Speaker 7: He could be a bit of a snarky prick when

37:27 Speaker 7: he wants to be as all you know, as as

37:31 Speaker 7: Neelie definitely.

37:32 Speaker 3: Was he he came he came off the worst. Well

37:37 Speaker 3: we'll get to know. We're going to get to him.

37:40 Speaker 3: What what see, Bass, go kick your own ass.

37:44 Speaker 6: My god.

37:45 Speaker 3: So my last most infuriating part of this entire situation. Now,

37:58 Speaker 3: we talked about this a little bit last week where

38:02 Speaker 3: I mentioned last week Seattle. When the season ended in Seattle,

38:08 Speaker 3: they made a huge statement, and I mean huge. They

38:15 Speaker 3: didn't just have words on a piece of paper, on

38:18 Speaker 3: a tweet or what have you, saying we didn't do enough.

38:23 Speaker 3: We are recommitting ourselves to a better team in the

38:29 Speaker 3: off season and to the fans. And then they took action.

38:34 Speaker 3: The Seattle Kraken, after one season, which is mind blowingly short,

38:38 Speaker 3: relieved their head coach of his duties. They shuffled around

38:43 Speaker 3: some people in the front office, and the most significant

38:50 Speaker 3: action to prove that they value their fans, the Seattle

38:56 Speaker 3: Kraken slashed their season ticket prices and offered concessions discounts

39:02 Speaker 3: next season. So, uh, needless to say, some of these

39:09 Speaker 3: perks over there. Season ticket holders there are going to

39:11 Speaker 3: get a twenty five percent discount on food and drinks,

39:15 Speaker 3: as well as special calendar of activities and exclusive events.

39:18 Speaker 7: My head's going to explode. My head is going to explode.

39:25 Speaker 3: It's it's absolutely insane. I will make sure to include

39:28 Speaker 3: in our show notes, what what how they've recommitted.

39:34 Speaker 5: This.

39:36 Speaker 3: This is what one of the wealthiest men, an extremely

39:42 Speaker 3: privileged wealthy man, had the audacity to say. And this

39:49 Speaker 3: was when.

39:50 Speaker 5: Vint Boston Globe. I've got a question for each of you,

39:52 Speaker 5: a different question, if I could. I'll start with you, Charlie.

39:55 Speaker 5: You mentioned how tough this year was an embarrassment to

39:57 Speaker 5: use your word. Would you consider rescinding the four percent

40:02 Speaker 5: price increase for the season ticket holders, well on top

40:07 Speaker 5: of the nine percent last year.

40:10 Speaker 6: I see ticket pricing is a sensitive subject. I'm aware

40:16 Speaker 6: of that things cost more, as are the way our

40:25 Speaker 6: structure of the US economy is based. Things cost. I

40:29 Speaker 6: expect that you probably pay your higher electric building you

40:32 Speaker 6: did last year. I know that we, for instance, pay

40:35 Speaker 6: more to open our building, for security, for ushers, for

40:40 Speaker 6: concession workers, for parking, attendance, everything people deserve and raise

40:46 Speaker 6: and an increase. Likewise, we increase our ticket prices as

40:51 Speaker 6: our expenses go. I mentioned this before. Every dollar we

40:56 Speaker 6: bring in, fifty percent goes to the players. We're in

41:00 Speaker 6: a partnership together with them. So the ticket increase, the price,

41:05 Speaker 6: whether it's four percent or nine percent, is all going

41:09 Speaker 6: back into the hockey club. So we've made our decision.

41:13 Speaker 6: We've raised our ticket prices, and no, we'll not be

41:16 Speaker 6: restinding that.

41:21 Speaker 7: I don't even know where to begin with this tone

41:25 Speaker 7: deaf billionaire boob, And I said, billionaire. First of all,

41:31 Speaker 7: you're a goddamn liar, because not every bit of that

41:36 Speaker 7: money goes back into the hockey club because you're in

41:39 Speaker 7: the business of making money. You don't own a team

41:43 Speaker 7: if you don't expect to make some money off of it.

41:46 Speaker 3: Okay.

41:48 Speaker 7: And the fact the fact that he could stand up

41:53 Speaker 7: there and whine about the cost of everything going up?

42:00 Speaker 7: What about the people? What about the people who work

42:05 Speaker 7: their asses off? You disingenuous billionaire boob? And the only

42:12 Speaker 7: reason you're there is because your father put you there

42:15 Speaker 7: to begin with. What about those people that work their

42:20 Speaker 7: asses off to go to one game a year. And

42:24 Speaker 7: that's how you say thank you to them. Go bleep yourself, Charlie.

42:31 Speaker 3: The fact that this man had the audacity to try

42:37 Speaker 3: and blame the increasing in ticket prices on quote unquote

42:45 Speaker 3: needing to pay people more money. First of all, yes,

42:49 Speaker 3: you should be paying them a living wage, Charlie, because

42:51 Speaker 3: Boston is fucking expensive. It's a tough place to live.

42:54 Speaker 3: The world is expensive. You're right. The election, and.

42:58 Speaker 7: Maybe if they didn't have if Delaware North, if Delaware

43:02 Speaker 7: North didn't have a reputation, Oh and who owns Delaware North,

43:05 Speaker 7: that would be the Jacob's family, if they didn't have

43:08 Speaker 7: a reputation for nickel and diming their own mother. Yep,

43:15 Speaker 7: he's so that they don't find their own pockets, right.

43:19 Speaker 3: What he doesn't take into account is the fact that

43:23 Speaker 3: five thousand dollars out of my bank account takes a

43:30 Speaker 3: larger bite out of my total bank account than out

43:35 Speaker 3: of his bank account. So, first of all, don't call

43:40 Speaker 3: cry poor never ever, because here's the thing, maybe if

43:46 Speaker 3: you were magnanimous, you could make a little less money,

43:50 Speaker 3: your dumbass rich Maria, because the Susan prior to these

43:55 Speaker 3: idiots who are there and saying, but I need to

43:57 Speaker 3: continue to make my billions of dollars. Tell us what

44:00 Speaker 3: the other fact of the matter is when it comes

44:03 Speaker 3: to hockey related revenue in the NHL, those ticket sales

44:07 Speaker 3: are not the only thing that is funding a hockey team. Okay,

44:11 Speaker 3: you've got ticket sales, You've got national and local TV

44:15 Speaker 3: and media deals, sponsorship, advertising concessions, parking, merchandise sold at

44:20 Speaker 3: the arena, NHL dot com, revenue of scial events. All

44:25 Speaker 3: of this is in one gigantic, big pot and then

44:29 Speaker 3: they split it. Okay, you remember a number of times

44:33 Speaker 3: Brad Marshand made some pretty fiery remarks about these what

44:39 Speaker 3: did he call them? I can't even remember now because

44:41 Speaker 3: I'm so angry, but he would call it poverty franchises

44:44 Speaker 3: because teams like the Bruins or the Rangers or you know,

44:49 Speaker 3: the Canucks would have to Ultimately, they brought in more

44:53 Speaker 3: money into the gigantic pot because correct, they get more

44:57 Speaker 3: media deals, they have more people watching. The more people

45:00 Speaker 3: who watch the team, the more money goes into the

45:03 Speaker 3: gigantic pot. And that gigantic pot is what is split

45:08 Speaker 3: with the players and is what dictates the cap. And

45:13 Speaker 3: remember what happened in COVID. You remember this little thing

45:16 Speaker 3: called escrow because the whiny little bitches of owners didn't

45:21 Speaker 3: make as much money, but they were locked into contracts

45:24 Speaker 3: to pay the players. They were legally obligated to continue

45:28 Speaker 3: paying the players. These rich people cried, but we're not

45:32 Speaker 3: as rich as we could have been, So the players

45:35 Speaker 3: now have to take a furlough cut off of what

45:38 Speaker 3: they could be making, and we have to make more

45:41 Speaker 3: until we can finally get back to even. So what

45:45 Speaker 3: this year, I'm not gonna make eight billion dollars, I'm.

45:48 Speaker 8: Only gonna make seven point five because I need to

45:53 Speaker 8: have a four percent increase so that you, Maria, have

45:58 Speaker 8: to spend one thousand dollars to go to one game

46:01 Speaker 8: on your birthday.

46:04 Speaker 7: So Charlie Jacobs go to hell.

46:09 Speaker 3: Get a clue. I cannot and he seemed. And here

46:14 Speaker 3: is the difference. And assume that anyone would have the

46:16 Speaker 3: audacity to say, can not charge us four percent for

46:21 Speaker 3: a team that you're sitting there and you're saying to us,

46:24 Speaker 3: I'm not mandating we make the playoffs next year?

46:28 Speaker 7: What is it then?

46:29 Speaker 3: Why would I pay four percent more? Be angry?

46:34 Speaker 7: We must make it right Jesus Christ. And here is

46:39 Speaker 7: the difference. Here is the difference between the two franchises,

46:44 Speaker 7: historic franchises that are in that building together. When the

46:51 Speaker 7: Boston Celtics went through a rebuilt many many years ago

46:56 Speaker 7: where they made the difficult decision to trade Paul Pierce

47:03 Speaker 7: Kevin Garnett, right, they reached out, They proactively reached out

47:11 Speaker 7: to their season ticket holders to say, listen, we did

47:15 Speaker 7: what we did, this is why we had to do it.

47:18 Speaker 7: We are going to be we are, we need to rebuild.

47:22 Speaker 7: It's going to be, you know, very difficult time for us.

47:26 Speaker 7: But we you know, we want you to stay with us.

47:29 Speaker 7: We want you to believe in us. So here's what

47:32 Speaker 7: we're going to do. We are reducing if you will

47:37 Speaker 7: stay with us and keep your season tickets, we will

47:42 Speaker 7: reduce the cost of your tickets by a set amount.

47:48 Speaker 7: They did that not one season, but at least two

47:51 Speaker 7: seasons to keep their season ticket holders, knowing that they

47:57 Speaker 7: were going to be in for a rough ride. What

48:00 Speaker 7: does this what does this family do?

48:04 Speaker 2: Right?

48:05 Speaker 7: They in essence give their fans the middle finger. That's

48:10 Speaker 7: exactly what Charlie did with that response. They don't care

48:16 Speaker 7: about their fan base. They don't no, and.

48:20 Speaker 3: He's completely shocked and totally thrown. If you if if

48:25 Speaker 3: you are only listening and you didn't see it, I

48:28 Speaker 3: mean he was extremely thrown by that, and to make

48:32 Speaker 3: matters worse, to piss me off even more. As a

48:36 Speaker 3: follow up question to my favorite president of Hockey Operations,

48:41 Speaker 3: we got a classic snarky response from Cam Neely to

48:49 Speaker 3: this particular question.

48:51 Speaker 5: Okay, Cam, question on drafting and development. Neither of them

48:56 Speaker 5: have really been up to expectations in my opinion. So

49:00 Speaker 5: can you just elaborate on like Kevin Theft, Yeah, well,

49:05 Speaker 5: where we've picked and who we picked and how it's turned.

49:08 Speaker 9: Out that that's the jealous Uh, that's a dick move

49:16 Speaker 9: because it is a move he's he's saying, Well, you're

49:21 Speaker 9: saying that we didn't draft, Well, give me names, give me,

49:25 Speaker 9: give me statistics of of how it didn't go.

49:28 Speaker 3: Well, tell me exactly what do you mean, sir? We

49:33 Speaker 3: we were the only team that didn't have somebody in

49:36 Speaker 3: World juniors. We have a pretty shallow prospect pool, one

49:42 Speaker 3: of the worst in the Laite rated one of anybody. Yep,

49:48 Speaker 3: So don't be an ass and answer the question, because

49:53 Speaker 3: you know what it is. Instead you're you're nitpicking at

49:57 Speaker 3: him and saying, well, tell me exactly what you mean.

49:59 Speaker 3: You know what he means, you knew what he meant.

50:02 Speaker 7: No, But then he makes it worse because he goes

50:04 Speaker 7: on to say, he goes on to say, with respect

50:08 Speaker 7: to the twenty fifteen draft, which you know we've talked

50:12 Speaker 7: about that ad nauseam, okay, but Kevin Paul DuPont opened

50:17 Speaker 7: up the door, so we're going to bring it up

50:19 Speaker 7: because cam Neely right, this was his response. Well, you know,

50:25 Speaker 7: it was John's first year and he was new to

50:28 Speaker 7: the job, and we really didn't have a lot of

50:31 Speaker 7: time to get ready, and we thought, you know, they

50:35 Speaker 7: were lusting. After making a trade, they got left with

50:38 Speaker 7: their dicks in their hands and they weren't ready.

50:41 Speaker 3: They weren't ready. But he was an assistant GM.

50:45 Speaker 7: He was you there, and he was with him.

50:49 Speaker 3: He was all there. There was kind the scouting team

50:52 Speaker 3: at one point too.

50:53 Speaker 7: So you know what, just just shut the f up.

51:00 Speaker 7: Shut the f up, okay, because you show you show

51:05 Speaker 7: your defensiveness, but you're ineptitude.

51:09 Speaker 3: You can't be sponding, you cannot be questioned. How dare

51:15 Speaker 3: we ask you correct dare we push back and say

51:19 Speaker 3: you're not doing a good job? Why are you still here?

51:24 Speaker 3: I honestly, I want to just reiterate and second your

51:31 Speaker 3: compliments to the press in the room, because we all

51:36 Speaker 3: were speculating and questioning and wondering, is the Boston media

51:43 Speaker 3: going to actually ask those questions? Are they gonna ask?

51:47 Speaker 3: I mean, the ticket price is one was just a

51:50 Speaker 3: pleasant surprise of a question. I was like, Oh, that's

51:52 Speaker 3: a great question. Absolutely someone should ask that. But we

51:56 Speaker 3: had speculated is someone gonna say why are these two

51:59 Speaker 3: guys still here? And the associated press did, and I

52:04 Speaker 3: my jaw was on the floor. I could not believe

52:08 Speaker 3: that someone actually had the balls to ask that question.

52:11 Speaker 7: And there was yeah, no, And and what I loved

52:16 Speaker 7: is we actually got to see the three of them

52:19 Speaker 7: for what they actually and truly are. We have we

52:23 Speaker 7: have the owner who is merely a figurehead, who is

52:27 Speaker 7: is is clueless and bumbling and tone deaf and privileged.

52:34 Speaker 7: And then we then we have you know, we have

52:39 Speaker 7: the mafia boss who was sitting in the middle, who

52:44 Speaker 7: you will do as I say the marionettes, correct, correct, correct, right,

52:52 Speaker 7: And then we have then we have down who's dirty work,

52:56 Speaker 7: does the dirty work. And let me tell you, Don,

53:00 Speaker 7: I'm not sure you got a ringing endorsement from your

53:03 Speaker 7: buddy Cam about your future moving forward. I'm really not

53:09 Speaker 7: sure that that was any ringing endorsement from Cam Neely

53:15 Speaker 7: on Don's job security.

53:17 Speaker 3: And Cam never will compliment another person because I'm sure

53:22 Speaker 3: he probably is thinking, well, I can't compliment someone else

53:27 Speaker 3: because then it makes them look good. And I can't

53:30 Speaker 3: have anyone even look good, not necessarily even better than him,

53:34 Speaker 3: but that he can't make it, have anyone look positive

53:37 Speaker 3: because what he's so insecure, right, I don't know what

53:43 Speaker 3: is this. It's bullshit, is what it is. I cannot

53:48 Speaker 3: believe that I have to sit through this summer and

53:52 Speaker 3: watch that the people build another team. I listen it

54:00 Speaker 3: at the start of the pod.

54:02 Speaker 7: But one of the couple of things that I learned

54:07 Speaker 7: from this press conference is we're not We're not getting

54:09 Speaker 7: back to being any type of contender in the coming season.

54:17 Speaker 7: Because when asked about, you know, the roster moving forward,

54:24 Speaker 7: and Sweeney said they needed good health, which he's right,

54:28 Speaker 7: you need right, you need hampus, you need right, they

54:32 Speaker 7: need more goalies, need to be sharp, right, they need

54:35 Speaker 7: more goalie competition. He made reference to that that was

54:38 Speaker 7: interesting all the Yeah, more than once, more than once.

54:42 Speaker 7: And I don't know what question was asked of him,

54:46 Speaker 7: but it was in the context of Swayman's workload and

54:50 Speaker 7: down Sweat said that Swayman was unequivocal in saying that

54:57 Speaker 7: his workload was not a fact. Yeah, in his adamant

55:02 Speaker 7: he said, he was right, adamant that it was not

55:05 Speaker 7: a factor in his on ice performance. But you know

55:08 Speaker 7: the fact that he had Jonis Corporsalo in his and

55:12 Speaker 7: and he said it openly that twenty five games was

55:17 Speaker 7: not enough for him to play, so, you know, maybe

55:22 Speaker 7: we'll go back to that type of standard. What else

55:27 Speaker 7: did he say that I wanted to be like, no shit,

55:29 Speaker 7: Sherlock was, Oh, the power play was dormant. You think

55:34 Speaker 7: it was dormant? How about virtually non existent? How about

55:38 Speaker 7: virtually non existent?

55:41 Speaker 3: You ding bat? Okay.

55:43 Speaker 7: The other thing that I found a little bit alarming

55:48 Speaker 7: was that Don said they were going to focus their

55:53 Speaker 7: needs on wingers this season, on wingers, and I thought

55:58 Speaker 7: to myself, wait a minute, wait a minute, you have

56:03 Speaker 7: still gaping holes at center. As a matter of fact,

56:08 Speaker 7: I happened to be watching NHL Network last night and

56:13 Speaker 7: they have a segment called you Don't Say and on

56:17 Speaker 7: the panel was Catherine Tappan, Mike Rupp, and Corey Schneider

56:22 Speaker 7: and they were replaying snippets.

56:24 Speaker 3: I heard about the Corey Corey Schneider's comment yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, And.

56:31 Speaker 7: What he said was, listen, they've never recovered from the

56:38 Speaker 7: fact that they lost Patrice Bergeron and David Crachie.

56:43 Speaker 3: And he used the phrase.

56:47 Speaker 7: Organizational malpractice, that you weren't prepared for the eventuality of

56:55 Speaker 7: those two players leaving. And to this day, how often

57:03 Speaker 7: have we have we talked about a succession plan, and

57:08 Speaker 7: particularly where Patrice Bergeron, because those guys don't grow on trees,

57:13 Speaker 7: they don't. But the fact that here we are twenty

57:17 Speaker 7: twenty five, going into the twenty twenty five twenty twenty

57:21 Speaker 7: six season, where your general manager still doesn't have a

57:26 Speaker 7: fucking plan for that yet. But we're gonna have a

57:29 Speaker 7: plan for wingers? Yeah okay, yeah, Well so, I mean, honestly,

57:40 Speaker 7: I think I think we're in for somewhat of a

57:43 Speaker 7: bumpy off season. I think that we're in for bumpy

57:49 Speaker 7: season ahead, if not more than one bumpy season ahead.

57:54 Speaker 7: If I'm wrong and something dramatic happens in the off season,

57:59 Speaker 7: I will gladly talk into my microphone and say, I

58:04 Speaker 7: don't know what the hell I'm talking about, but based

58:07 Speaker 7: on what I've heard, yeah, and what we've said and

58:11 Speaker 7: what we know about our franchise.

58:15 Speaker 3: M y, do we do? We have confidence? Mm hmm Nope, nope,

58:23 Speaker 3: but I'm tired of being angry. Yes, So we shall

58:28 Speaker 3: see what happens next. Uh, We're gonna have a few

58:34 Speaker 3: fun episodes coming up over the next weeks. We're not

58:38 Speaker 3: talking about Dan, Don cam or Charlie. Nope, We're We're

58:44 Speaker 3: gonna We're gonna have Friend of the Pod Mo back

58:47 Speaker 3: on to talk about what makes a good forward line,

58:53 Speaker 3: what makes good deep pairings, and Greek goaltending. We're gonna

58:57 Speaker 3: have a lie for the lottery, which again we're still

59:04 Speaker 3: waiting on the exact date. So we've got a month

59:08 Speaker 3: of interesting and fun conversation and content coming up, So

59:13 Speaker 3: make sure you continue to like and subscribe and follow

59:18 Speaker 3: so you don't miss any of that. And if there

59:21 Speaker 3: is any breaking news, I mean, I can't imagine we're

59:25 Speaker 3: going to be hearing anything about coaching until after the

59:28 Speaker 3: Stanley Cup, just because everybody always likes to see where

59:32 Speaker 3: the dust settles and who's actually available and who goes

59:34 Speaker 3: where and whatnot. But I wouldn't be surprised if, you know,

59:40 Speaker 3: in a couple of weeks we start to hear trades,

59:42 Speaker 3: so it should be interesting an interesting time to be sure.

59:47 Speaker 7: Well, Peter Laviolette is available, and we think we think

59:53 Speaker 7: we have issues, we think we have issues, yep, with

59:57 Speaker 7: with the mess that was the New York Range just

1:00:00 Speaker 7: this year, and and you know, Chris Drury basically expended,

1:00:07 Speaker 7: ah yeah, yeah, well we'll we'll bring we'll bring our

1:00:11 Speaker 7: friend Jimmy back and cry together again about.

1:00:15 Speaker 3: The season that could have been. But any final thoughts

1:00:19 Speaker 3: on that horrific presser that we knew was going to

1:00:22 Speaker 3: be bad but didn't realize it was going to be

1:00:24 Speaker 3: this bad.

1:00:25 Speaker 7: Yeah, I guess I didn't understand the degree to which

1:00:28 Speaker 7: and the depths to which that that trio would sink

1:00:32 Speaker 7: to justify themselves, to justify themselves.

1:00:38 Speaker 3: And to continue to to some degree.

1:00:42 Speaker 7: And I'll remove maybe Dawn for part of this, but

1:00:47 Speaker 7: the disingenuous conduct.

1:00:50 Speaker 3: Mm hmm yeah, yeah, yeah, terrible, But as always gobyes,

1:01:01 Speaker 3: I guess